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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1428 Days

2006-09-04 11:19:31 360 as it is now supports HDMI

http://xe360.com/article/Xbox_360_Accessories/3768...

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=80...

Well, during my monthly run through ebgames to check for any previews to write. I found an interesting item come up to display while searching.

GameStop Universal Premium HDMI Cable

At first glance, I said to myself “what, HDMI is not possible for the Xbox 360.” I also do not claim to be a techno guru with the T.V department but that what they were selling. I was searching around the xbox forums to see if this is old news and an interesting tidbit led to quote from anandtech posted by Nielo TM:

"Originally we assumed the chip below was a TV encoder, but we've since found out that the TV encoder on ATI's Xenos GPU is identical to what is on the ATI Radeon X1000 series of PC graphics cards - meaning the Xbox 360's TV encoder is located on the Xenos GPU itself and makes use of ATI's Xilleon display engine.”

"The display engine also features the hardware that actually drives the display output, and Avivo has a number of enhancements here. Dual 400MHz 10-bit per component DAC's remain, as in previous graphics implementations, however this time the TV-Out display engine has been lifted directly from ATI's consumer electronics Xilleon processor (this engine can be found to be driving the displays of many Sony televisions, for example). The last generation of Radeon products only integrated a single link, 165MHz, TMDS transmitter for DVI output, however Avivo products will feature two integrated dual link transmitters, hence two digital panels can be independently driven to 2048×1536 @ 75 Hz or 2560x1600 resolutions."

Click Here to read the whole article by anandtech.

To reiterate what the above quotes mean is that the Xbox 360 is capable of producing digitial image/audio output. Hopefully I'm not breaking old news to everyone but it is still going to be a interesting view of a Xbox 360 HDMI Cable. The GameStop Universal Premium HDMI Cable is schedule for release on December, 1st 2006 for 99.99 dollars (not surprising).

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1466 Days

2006-09-04 11:56:27

This is great news but man $100 for an HDMI cable why are they priced so expensively ?

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I WANT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 for my 360 .........

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1428 Days

2006-09-04 12:07:39

No idea and I hear the ps3 doesn't come with an HDMI cable so thats like another $100 added onto the price tag?

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hasanahmad
hasanahmad
Since 1552 Days

2006-09-04 12:13:56

thats great!

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360 = 299 + 100 HDDVD = 399 | Wii = 199
Wii60 = 399 + 199 = 600$

alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1466 Days

2006-09-04 12:22:15 In reply to Optimusv2 (2006-09-04 12:07:39)

Posted by Optimusv2
No idea and I hear the ps3 doesn't come with an HDMI cable so thats like another $100 added onto the price tag?
Yeah that's true, the PS3 wont have the HDMI cable included meaning it will cost $700 for those who want the cable. Seriously though, Sony should have at least put in the cable as a free gift, I am sure that would have convinced more people to actually see value in the package.

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I WANT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 for my 360 .........

Shawnzee
Shawnzee
Since 1548 Days

2006-09-04 13:55:58

If the cable costs 100 dollars from gamestop, they sony cable will cost more.

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1466 Days

2006-09-04 13:57:22 In reply to Shawnzee (2006-09-04 13:55:58)

Posted by Shawnzee
If the cable costs 100 dollars from gamestop, they sony cable will cost more.
that's true, sony tends to overprice everything.

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Shawnzee
Shawnzee
Since 1548 Days

2006-09-04 14:01:56

Like MS.

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Jato
Jato
Since 1413 Days

2006-09-04 14:43:50

From what I've gathered, the ps3 HDMI cable is supposed to cost about 20-30 Euro's, so about 30-40 Dollars.

Imo, anyone who buys such a cable for 100 dollars isn't in their right mind anyway...

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There it is: next-gen!

Shawnzee
Shawnzee
Since 1548 Days

2006-09-04 14:54:47

I highly, highly doubt that its going to be that cheap, Ive yet see a hdmi cable for less than 60 dollars, and the thing broke after a month, my dad was so pissed he just switched back to vga.

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Jato
Jato
Since 1413 Days

2006-09-04 14:58:37

And I don't blame him. ;)

Yeah, I read this on the usual ps3 sites, so it might just be wishfull thinking...

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There it is: next-gen!

Killers
Killers
Since 1540 Days

2006-09-04 16:53:18

I bought a HDMI cable for my HD upscale dvdplayer and it cost me like 35$ and still working (I've had it for like 5-6 months), and that should be a regular HDMI right? Since I'm not that into the market and what's what i don't now but it says HDMI :P

lefte3
Since 1216 Days

2006-09-04 17:00:08

this is retardation. what the chip supports is IRRELLEVANT. you need an EXTRA chip to support HDCP, which isn't there, and the connector itself doesn't support HDMI.

that article is just wrong.

lefte3
Since 1216 Days

2006-09-04 17:00:38 In reply to alimokrane (2006-09-04 11:56:27)

Posted by alimokrane
This is great news but man $100 for an HDMI cable why are they priced so expensively ?
you can buy an HDMI cable for $5. anyone who tells you an HDMI cable costs $100 should be punched in the throat.

GriftGFX
He can also
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
Since 1536 Days

2006-09-04 18:14:55 In reply to lefte3 (2006-09-04 17:00:38)

Posted by lefte3
you can buy an HDMI cable for $5. anyone who tells you an HDMI cable costs $100 should be punched in the throat.
Can you please get to work handing out those throat punchings then? Please?

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1419 Days

2006-09-04 18:27:08 In reply to lefte3 (2006-09-04 17:00:08)

Posted by lefte3
this is retardation. what the chip supports is IRRELLEVANT. you need an EXTRA chip to support HDCP, which isn't there, and the connector itself doesn't support HDMI.

that article is just wrong.
Firstly you need more than 1 chip for HDCP everything from the CPU to the GPU has to be HDCP compatible.

Secondly it's been talked about to death, it's likely that both the PS3 and 360 won't be using HDCP, did you forget that the cheap PS3 don't have HDMI/HDCP either ?

Thirdly as for your HDMI cables for $5 i think thats bollox show me, and even if you could i doubt they would be much good.

roxwell
PuS3Y roxwell - PuS3Y
Since 1484 Days

2006-09-04 18:35:50

stop asking to see peoples bollox Jolli!

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Terra
Terra
Since 1418 Days

2006-09-04 18:38:39

Xbox360 has no need for an HDMI cable anyway… And the VGA cable is the best option for picture quality, at least for games.

alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1466 Days

2006-09-04 18:44:25 In reply to lefte3 (2006-09-04 17:00:38)

Posted by lefte3
you can buy an HDMI cable for $5. anyone who tells you an HDMI cable costs $100 should be punched in the throat.
Either you must be joking OR you must be joking.

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1466 Days

2006-09-04 18:45:19 In reply to Terra (2006-09-04 18:38:39)

Posted by Terra
Xbox360 has no need for an HDMI cable anyway… And the VGA cable is the best option for picture quality, at least for games.
unless you have an HDTV of course!

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lefte3
Since 1216 Days

2006-09-04 18:46:16 In reply to Jollipop (2006-09-04 18:27:08)

Posted by Jollipop
Firstly you need more than 1 chip for HDCP everything from the CPU to the GPU has to be HDCP compatible.

Secondly it's been talked about to death, it's likely that both the PS3 and 360 won't be using HDCP, did you forget that the cheap PS3 don't have HDMI/HDCP either ?

Thirdly as for your HDMI cables for $5 i think thats bollox show me, and even if you could i doubt they would be much good.
the CPU isn't HDCP compatible or not, there is no such thing on a CPU. the video card, the connector, and the display. thats it. the cpu isn't "hdcp compatible". You don't know what you're talking about. the extra chip I'm talking about is a specific chip required for hdcp compatibility that has to be on the videocard when dealing w/ pcs that actually does the hdcp encoding/decoding. only some of the ati cards actually have them, even though the gpu's are hdcp-capable, without that chip it doesn't do it.

http://store.4linkcomm.com/hdmatohdmago1.html

If you think that there is a difference between the $5 hdmi cable and the $100 ones then you're just the kind of sucker the guys selling the $100 cables are looking for.

GriftGFX
He can also
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
Since 1536 Days

2006-09-04 18:46:31 In reply to alimokrane (2006-09-04 18:44:25)

Posted by alimokrane
Either you must be joking OR you must be joking.
He was exadgerating, but not by much:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...

Edit: Also, if they ever decide to start using HDCP, the "cheap" PS3 won't be displaying those movies in 1080p atleast.

lefte3
Since 1216 Days

2006-09-04 18:47:03 In reply to alimokrane (2006-09-04 18:44:25)

Posted by alimokrane
Either you must be joking OR you must be joking.
or you don't know what you're talking about.

Terra
Terra
Since 1418 Days

2006-09-04 18:51:31 In reply to alimokrane (2006-09-04 18:45:19)

Posted by alimokrane
unless you have an HDTV of course!
On the contrary, VGA is perfect for HDTVs…

alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1466 Days

2006-09-04 18:53:43 In reply to lefte3 (2006-09-04 18:47:03)

Posted by lefte3
or you don't know what you're talking about.
Pffffff .... Sorry know-it All!

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