360 as it is now supports HDMI

Since 7468 Days

http://xe360.com/article/Xbox_360_Accessories/3768...

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=80...

Well, during my monthly run through ebgames to check for any previews to write. I found an interesting item come up to display while searching.

GameStop Universal Premium HDMI Cable

At first glance, I said to myself “what, HDMI is not possible for the Xbox 360.” I also do not claim to be a techno guru with the T.V department but that what they were selling. I was searching around the xbox forums to see if this is old news and an interesting tidbit led to quote from anandtech posted by Nielo TM:

"Originally we assumed the chip below was a TV encoder, but we've since found out that the TV encoder on ATI's Xenos GPU is identical to what is on the ATI Radeon X1000 series of PC graphics cards - meaning the Xbox 360's TV encoder is located on the Xenos GPU itself and makes use of ATI's Xilleon display engine.”

"The display engine also features the hardware that actually drives the display output, and Avivo has a number of enhancements here. Dual 400MHz 10-bit per component DAC's remain, as in previous graphics implementations, however this time the TV-Out display engine has been lifted directly from ATI's consumer electronics Xilleon processor (this engine can be found to be driving the displays of many Sony televisions, for example). The last generation of Radeon products only integrated a single link, 165MHz, TMDS transmitter for DVI output, however Avivo products will feature two integrated dual link transmitters, hence two digital panels can be independently driven to 2048×1536 @ 75 Hz or 2560x1600 resolutions."

Click Here to read the whole article by anandtech.

To reiterate what the above quotes mean is that the Xbox 360 is capable of producing digitial image/audio output. Hopefully I'm not breaking old news to everyone but it is still going to be a interesting view of a Xbox 360 HDMI Cable. The GameStop Universal Premium HDMI Cable is schedule for release on December, 1st 2006 for 99.99 dollars (not surprising).

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http://xe360.com/article/Xbox_360_Accessories/3768.html

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=802523

[quote] Well, during my monthly run through ebgames to check for any previews to write. I found an interesting item come up to display while searching.

GameStop Universal Premium HDMI Cable

At first glance, I said to myself “what, HDMI is not possible for the Xbox 360.” I also do not claim to be a techno guru with the T.V department but that what they were selling. I was searching around the xbox forums to see if this is old news and an interesting tidbit led to quote from anandtech posted by Nielo TM:

"Originally we assumed the chip below was a TV encoder, but we've since found out that the TV encoder on ATI's Xenos GPU is identical to what is on the ATI Radeon X1000 series of PC graphics cards - meaning the Xbox 360's TV encoder is located on the Xenos GPU itself and makes use of ATI's Xilleon display engine.”

"The display engine also features the hardware that actually drives the display output, and Avivo has a number of enhancements here. Dual 400MHz 10-bit per component DAC's remain, as in previous graphics implementations, however this time the TV-Out display engine has been lifted directly from ATI's consumer electronics Xilleon processor (this engine can be found to be driving the displays of many Sony televisions, for example). The last generation of Radeon products only integrated a single link, 165MHz, TMDS transmitter for DVI output, however Avivo products will feature two integrated dual link transmitters, hence two digital panels can be independently driven to 2048×1536 @ 75 Hz or 2560x1600 resolutions."

Click Here to read the whole article by anandtech.

[b] To reiterate what the above quotes mean is that the Xbox 360 is capable of producing digitial image/audio output. Hopefully I'm not breaking old news to everyone but it is still going to be a interesting view of a Xbox 360 HDMI Cable. The GameStop Universal Premium HDMI Cable is schedule for release on December, 1st 2006 for 99.99 dollars (not surprising). [/b] [/quote]

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alimokrane

Since 7506 Days

This is great news but man $100 for an HDMI cable why are they priced so expensively ?

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I WANT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 for my 360 .........

Optimusv2

Since 7468 Days

No idea and I hear the ps3 doesn't come with an HDMI cable so thats like another $100 added onto the price tag?

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hasanahmad

Since 7592 Days

thats great!

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360 = 299 + 100 HDDVD = 399 | Wii = 199
Wii60 = 399 + 199 = 600$

alimokrane

Since 7506 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

No idea and I hear the ps3 doesn't come with an HDMI cable so thats like another $100 added onto the price tag?

Yeah that's true, the PS3 wont have the HDMI cable included meaning it will cost $700 for those who want the cable. Seriously though, Sony should have at least put in the cable as a free gift, I am sure that would have convinced more people to actually see value in the package.

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I WANT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 for my 360 .........

Shawnzee

Since 7588 Days

If the cable costs 100 dollars from gamestop, they sony cable will cost more.

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Games sure are fun.

alimokrane

Since 7506 Days

Posted by Shawnzee

If the cable costs 100 dollars from gamestop, they sony cable will cost more.

that's true, sony tends to overprice everything.

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I WANT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 for my 360 .........

Shawnzee

Since 7588 Days

Like MS.

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Games sure are fun.

Jato

Since 7453 Days

From what I've gathered, the ps3 HDMI cable is supposed to cost about 20-30 Euro's, so about 30-40 Dollars.

Imo, anyone who buys such a cable for 100 dollars isn't in their right mind anyway...

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There it is: next-gen!

Shawnzee

Since 7588 Days

I highly, highly doubt that its going to be that cheap, Ive yet see a hdmi cable for less than 60 dollars, and the thing broke after a month, my dad was so pissed he just switched back to vga.

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Games sure are fun.

Jato

Since 7453 Days

And I don't blame him. ;)

Yeah, I read this on the usual ps3 sites, so it might just be wishfull thinking...

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There it is: next-gen!

Killers

Since 7581 Days

I bought a HDMI cable for my HD upscale dvdplayer and it cost me like 35$ and still working (I've had it for like 5-6 months), and that should be a regular HDMI right? Since I'm not that into the market and what's what i don't now but it says HDMI :P

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lefte3

Since 7256 Days

this is retardation. what the chip supports is IRRELLEVANT. you need an EXTRA chip to support HDCP, which isn't there, and the connector itself doesn't support HDMI.

that article is just wrong.

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lefte3

Since 7256 Days

Posted by alimokrane

This is great news but man $100 for an HDMI cable why are they priced so expensively ?

you can buy an HDMI cable for $5. anyone who tells you an HDMI cable costs $100 should be punched in the throat.

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GriftGFX

Since 7576 Days

Posted by lefte3

you can buy an HDMI cable for $5. anyone who tells you an HDMI cable costs $100 should be punched in the throat.

Can you please get to work handing out those throat punchings then? Please?

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Jollipop

Since 7459 Days

Posted by lefte3

this is retardation. what the chip supports is IRRELLEVANT. you need an EXTRA chip to support HDCP, which isn't there, and the connector itself doesn't support HDMI.

that article is just wrong.

Firstly you need more than 1 chip for HDCP everything from the CPU to the GPU has to be HDCP compatible.

Secondly it's been talked about to death, it's likely that both the PS3 and 360 won't be using HDCP, did you forget that the cheap PS3 don't have HDMI/HDCP either ?

Thirdly as for your HDMI cables for $5 i think thats bollox show me, and even if you could i doubt they would be much good.

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roxwell

Since 7524 Days

stop asking to see peoples bollox Jolli!

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Take one 360, add some chopped PS3, stir in some Wii, a sprinkling of DS Lite. Enjoy :)

Fanboy=Ban boy.

Terra

Since 7458 Days

Xbox360 has no need for an HDMI cable anyway… And the VGA cable is the best option for picture quality, at least for games.

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alimokrane

Since 7506 Days

Posted by lefte3

you can buy an HDMI cable for $5. anyone who tells you an HDMI cable costs $100 should be punched in the throat.

Either you must be joking OR you must be joking.

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I WANT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 for my 360 .........

alimokrane

Since 7506 Days

Posted by Terra

Xbox360 has no need for an HDMI cable anyway… And the VGA cable is the best option for picture quality, at least for games.

unless you have an HDTV of course!

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I WANT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 for my 360 .........

lefte3

Since 7256 Days

Posted by Jollipop

the CPU isn't HDCP compatible or not, there is no such thing on a CPU. the video card, the connector, and the display. thats it. the cpu isn't "hdcp compatible". You don't know what you're talking about. the extra chip I'm talking about is a specific chip required for hdcp compatibility that has to be on the videocard when dealing w/ pcs that actually does the hdcp encoding/decoding. only some of the ati cards actually have them, even though the gpu's are hdcp-capable, without that chip it doesn't do it.

http://store.4linkcomm.com/hdmatohdmago1.html

If you think that there is a difference between the $5 hdmi cable and the $100 ones then you're just the kind of sucker the guys selling the $100 cables are looking for.

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[quote=Jollipop]

Firstly you need more than 1 chip for HDCP everything from the CPU to the GPU has to be HDCP compatible.

Secondly it's been talked about to death, it's likely that both the PS3 and 360 won't be using HDCP, [b] did you forget that the cheap PS3 don't have HDMI/HDCP either ?[/b]

Thirdly as for your HDMI cables for $5 i think thats bollox show me, and even if you could i doubt they would be much good.[/quote]

the CPU isn't HDCP compatible or not, there is no such thing on a CPU.  the video card, the connector, and the display.  thats it.  the cpu isn't "hdcp compatible".  You don't know what you're talking about. the extra chip I'm talking about is a specific chip required for hdcp compatibility that has to be on the videocard when dealing w/ pcs that actually does the hdcp encoding/decoding.  only some of the ati cards actually have them, even though the gpu's are hdcp-capable, without that chip it doesn't do it.

http://store.4linkcomm.com/hdmatohdmago1.html

If you think that there is a difference between the $5 hdmi cable and the $100 ones then you're just the kind of sucker the guys selling the $100 cables are looking for.

GriftGFX

Since 7576 Days

Posted by alimokrane

Either you must be joking OR you must be joking.

He was exadgerating, but not by much:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82...

Edit: Also, if they ever decide to start using HDCP, the "cheap" PS3 won't be displaying those movies in 1080p atleast.

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lefte3

Since 7256 Days

Posted by alimokrane

Either you must be joking OR you must be joking.

or you don't know what you're talking about.

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Terra

Since 7458 Days

Posted by alimokrane

unless you have an HDTV of course!

On the contrary, VGA is perfect for HDTVs…

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alimokrane

Since 7506 Days

Posted by lefte3

or you don't know what you're talking about.

Pffffff .... Sorry know-it All!

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I WANT DEVIL MAY CRY 4 for my 360 .........

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