2009-11-06 05:47:10

Btw, the "confirmed" prospect of an action class/squad shooter in the Haloverse with sprint makes me :D

If Bungie gives us custom lobbies and more online variables I will be extremely hyped.

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2009-11-06 05:53:33

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2009-11-06 06:26:19

I don't want to sound like a graphics whore, but I agree that due to it's flagship status Halo Reach really ought to be an impressive looking game. It doesn't need to better Killzone 2 but I think that with all the money MS could give this title, there is no reason Bungie shouldn't have this game looking ace.

That said, Halo 3 is still one of the, if not THE best console FPS so far this gen, and it's gameplay/options is miles ahead of other, superior looking shooters like Gears, Killzone 2, and Crysis. IMO at least. I'm sure others, especially fanboys, will not agree.

2009-11-06 10:46:29

WOW amazing stuff man i hope there real, even for crappy early shots it looks awesome, Bungie are banning members left right and center on there forums!! :}

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2009-11-06 11:32:37

Looks like halo 3, so whats the big diffrence with this game ? if its based on the book then that would be cool, but IF its keeping true to that book, then it will need some BIG ass battles, and as someone else stated, not many things to kill in those shots.

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2009-11-06 11:38:46

No it looks like Halo!

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2009-11-06 12:47:54 In reply to BLackHawkodst (2009-11-06 11:38:46)

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2009-11-06 12:50:57 In reply to Acert93 (2009-11-06 05:29:25)

2009-11-06 13:18:04 In reply to ManThatYouFear (2009-11-06 12:47:54)

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2009-11-06 13:25:55

I expect it to look like Halo, thats pretty much defined by the art, but the lighting model used, the quality of textures, the quality of models, the quality of animations should all be much higher than what they were in 3. I've said it all along, 3 got a pass purely on it's HDR, everything else fell a bit short, shadowing was odd, models varied hugely, the detail in the landscapes was very odd (sand textures etc looked similar to those in HL1) and the animation was very clunky not to mention the sub HD resolution at 30fps.
I expect far more from bungie, from a first party studio, they should be pushing the hardware so far, especially with "2" games under their belt on the machine. Some indications are there in those shots, those weapon models as i said before are hugely impressive, the rest can be explained as placeholder, it's hard to discern engine capabilities from a few blurry shots anyway. Either way, they need to make better use of what they have at their disposal.

Im a bit of a graphics whore anyway, thats the one area they need to improve to get me to bite, thats why i never bought into ODST to begin with.

2009-11-06 13:53:24 In reply to GriftGFX (2009-11-06 04:39:30)

2009-11-06 14:07:19

lol well thats no surprise coming from you, yet millions upon millions would disagree.

2009-11-06 14:08:48 In reply to KORNdog (2009-11-06 13:53:24)

I said console shooter.

For someone who doesn't care for Halo you seem to have a lot of hopes for Halo Reach. Halo doesn't need a saving grace.

2009-11-06 14:24:39

HL2, COD4 and Killzone 2 are in the other school of shooter from Halo 3 though. They rely on encapsulating the player in a quite plotted path and bombarding him with scripted, cinematic events. It's essentially what I was talking about before in regards to Uncharted 2 aswell.

If that's something you prefer then obviously you will prefer the games that follow that philosophy. In Halo's case though, only Halo 2 - which is widely considered something of a misstep for the series - does the campaign semi fall into that category. Halo is about its core, cirtculating gameplay mechanics and how that still fuels entire 10 hour campaigns thanks to its original strengths, by providing open, dynamic locales for it to bloom.

You can't throw that into a scripted shooter without compromising what Halo fans gravitate towards in the first place.

So yeah, naturally if another STYLE of shooter captures your fancy more, then Reach has to morph into that style to be successful.

I half agree that Reach has work to do in terms of animation and visuals. I'm a Halo fan (that never touches multiplayer so don't chuck me into that slot please) and will play pretty much anything Halo related - even when it's a little bit on the average side like Halo Wars - so for me it's not a HUUUUUGE deal if Reach simply looks "nice". I would be immensly proud and excited however, if it were to tickle me like Uncharted 2 does visually.

And that's not to say it has to be a technical wonder, but there's a humanity and emotional gravity to Uncharted 2 (and even 1) that the strangely robotic Halo people cannot remotely match. I would very much like to go up against Elites with actual volume and weight to them, instead of having them very game-like skid around the battlefield.

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2009-11-06 14:24:55 In reply to BLackHawkodst (2009-11-06 13:18:04)

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2009-11-06 14:36:58 In reply to KORNdog (2009-11-06 13:53:24)

OMG, just seen those screens, the game looks stunning already, the detail is immense! Those new weapons intrigue me, especially that new BR, I wonder if the pistol will return to this game, it only makes sense as its set before Halo 1. My anticipation for Reach has gone through the roof now!

2009-11-06 14:38:54 In reply to SimonM7 (2009-11-06 14:24:39)

2009-11-06 14:43:15 In reply to ManThatYouFear (2009-11-06 14:24:55)

2009-11-06 15:02:13 In reply to GriftGFX (2009-11-06 14:38:54)

Well, I'm an all-discriminating non-mp player as you know. :)

Perhaps one day when I dial down the wanting to experience as many games as possible angle I've got going, I will allow myself to linger on a single game for the amounts of time mp consumes without giving a sense of closure.

But yeah my fascination with Halo, the start of my love story if you will, was in the second level of Halo 1.

I walked towards a rock, shooting at an Elite standing beside it. The elite then ducked out of my gunfire, in behind the rock. I threw a grenade to the right of his position, to the right of the rock and started heading off to to the left of the rock. The elite DIVES out of the way of the grenade, out from the cover behind the rock, to the left. Where... I arrive to greet him with a melee attack to the face.

Long range shooting, delayed long range/radius attack, close quarters. Guns, grenades and melee, In perfect harmony. That has ALWAYS been the reason I keep coming back to Halo because no other game does it even REMOTELY as well as Bungie's FPS franchise. I absolutely adore that the AI is written so that you can take advantage of it, and the levels are - ideally - made so that these situations in all sorts of combinations happen over and over. In fact, from this standpoint I think ODST is the most well structured Halo to date, simply in terms of its battlegrounds.

Even the enemies were originally built to encourage flanking them (shields, insta-death melee from back) and getting up close and personal in the thick of it to almost "bullfight" the Hunters into shooting them in the sweet spot.

Even the guns themselves had properties you figured out, almost like meeting legions of Megaman bosses. Plasma taking out shields, bullets gunning down hunters in a few shots, sniping Jackals through the tiny bit of the shield where their hand is.

Now it's all too common to empty a bucket of the exact same enemies on top of your head for the duration of an entire campaign, only to break that up with scripted explosions and things falling down. So yeah, with Halo being virtually the only franchise that still plays like an honest to god GAME (though Gears 2 really did make real strides in that department) there's not a whole lot it *needs* to be doing to be the go-to franchise if you dig this type of thing like I do.

Man I go on, don't I.

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2009-11-06 15:05:47 In reply to SimonM7 (2009-11-06 14:24:39)

2009-11-06 15:46:45

I have obvisouly still not Played Halo 3 yet nor ODST so cant join on the discussion but I if these REACH screens are REAL, I think we're in for a treat. If the game is looking this good early on, I think we should expect something special graphically.

2009-11-06 15:58:24 In reply to SimonM7 (2009-11-06 15:02:13)

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2009-11-06 16:16:00 In reply to icemanufc (2009-11-06 14:43:15)

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2009-11-06 16:23:48 In reply to icemanufc (2009-11-06 14:43:15)

2009-11-06 16:42:02 In reply to ManThatYouFear (2009-11-06 16:16:00)