2007-08-16 22:11:49

flamethrower vid. dont know if anyone saw this...

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/9537...

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2007-08-16 22:20:56 In reply to Scarface (2007-08-16 22:11:49)

check this out scarface:
http://www.bungie.net/projects/halo3/content.aspx?...
It's one of those 3-d snapshots.

much better ;)

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2007-08-16 23:16:39 In reply to PlumbDrumb (2007-08-16 22:20:56)

I thought it looked familiar;) looks good. wonder how this weapon and the new fire mechanics will affect gameplay.

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"Black people are called coloured, because we come in all colours" - michael jackson

2007-08-16 23:30:19 In reply to Scarface (2007-08-16 23:16:39)

I "simply" want the fire to look good and act somewhat appropriately. I mean, I've seen some nice looking fire that wasn't all that interactive (as in RE4...those torches looked great!), but I've yet to see decent fire implemented as a weapon.

And man oh man! If they can have the fire spill across the bubble shield in an awesome way so that it looks scary and intense when you're inside of it, I'd be in heaven.

2007-08-16 23:32:35 In reply to Ronsauce (2007-08-16 23:30:19)

i can picture it now:) but then agian, i've pictured alot of Halo3 and have been disappointed big time. lets hope they get this right

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2007-08-17 09:38:51

wow, this game is definitely what i expected and even more. i can't wait till Sept. 25th!

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Finish The Fight Sept. 25th

Halo 3 Bitches!!!

Beware, Heretic is on the prowl!!!

2007-08-17 10:36:58

Game's art is fantastic.






SP looks really awesome.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-08-17 10:39:22

I'll say. I wish they'd show more shots of the game...in first person...ya know? Because its a, you know, FPS.

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2007-08-17 10:48:48

Looks much better in first person too.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-08-17 11:00:25 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-08-17 10:48:48)

More like looks better on an HDTV which I think it does. I guess, games HAVE to be seen in motion to be judged this gen.

2007-08-17 11:25:30 In reply to alimokrane (2007-08-17 11:00:25)

Well here's one gamer who knows that truth better than most.

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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

2007-08-17 13:25:06

Halo 3: New Campaign and Multiplayer AU Hands-on

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/813/813454p1.ht...

More here, it really does sound incredible!

2007-08-17 18:58:48

They mention that it has TONS of jaggies....

They also say it seems as if Halo 3 has the best AI of any game on the market.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-08-17 21:38:57

Yeah, pretty much we have another FM2 here..........

2007-08-17 21:52:16 In reply to LEBATO (2007-08-17 21:38:57)

But instead of limiting the number of cars, their increasing the number of Covenant by ten fold(not an exact figure but you get the idea)!!!

Oh yeah and 4 player co-op. They said they might not even have co-op over Live, and then they announce this; doesn't sound like over-promising and under-delivering to me.

2007-08-17 22:11:17 In reply to arcaNe (2007-08-17 21:52:16)

FM2 is great in terms of gameplay--I wished for more, but that's not what I referred to.

I simply meant the graphics side. Not achieving what they first showed/promised.

2007-08-17 22:32:26

Well, it aint the first time bungie fools us!

Still, I think it looks pretty good from what we have seen, but the jaggies in these new SP screens... WTF is up with that?

2007-08-17 23:15:54

I don't notice too many jaggies in the sp shots...

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-08-17 23:26:32 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-08-17 23:15:54)

And honestly, I thought the beta was great looking in it's own clean, simplistic way, and if the SP is even a little better but with huge battles, then awesome!

2007-08-18 00:27:57

Yea its become very obvious the art design in the SP is tons better than what was in the beta and only problem with the beta is that it seems like it didn't get much love from artists. Whereas the attention to detail I'm seeing in SP is really good so far.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-08-18 01:33:57 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-08-17 23:15:54)

A lot of developers take bullshots; seeing as we have seen some really large resolution Halo screenshots you never know until you get the finished game. And as Lebato said, FM2 went from "4xMSAA" from day 1 as a signature feature to "sometimes no MSAA" by launch.

What concerns me a little more, graphically, in the screen I posted is the animation. Note how the Brutes look to be in the same, rigid, action figure stance. Animation is a huge part of what separates next gen games. Boring, repetitive, stiff, jerky, rough seamed and unnatural animations that don't transition well are a big negative. We haven't seen enough Halo 3 to know what the animation is like, but seeing a couple Brutes in the "Action Figure" stance isn't encouraging. Neither is a group of them in the open in such a stance.

Of course it may be an early shot as there are little atmospherics like all the grass and undergrowth they have been raving about that reactions to player interaction and explosions.

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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

2007-08-18 01:36:24

I dare guarantee near Halo 2 like animation across the board for this.

2007-08-18 01:51:17

Sigh, I don't see the relation to FM2 at all. What exactly have Bungie promised and then cut? Like....4xMSAA, Cars, Tracks, Environments, 3D Grass etc.

On the other hand who here was expecting 4 player co-op, Forge and Saved films after the launch trailer? Even in terms of graphical features, I haven't seen something removed which was "promised" in any way. Sure, they've changed the armour, I happen to prefer it but I'm a purist. I didn't see much PR explicitly pimping the armour texture after E3 06 though...

Completely different in my eyes.

Ive not seen tons of jaggies from what I've had access to but such things are subjective, dependent on TV's and the like. I'd be very suprised if it transpired that Halo 3 had no AA, put it that way.

2007-08-18 01:55:52 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-08-18 01:36:24)

I second this. I'm not even hoping for better animation as I'd definitely be setting myself up for disappointment (in the animation...not the game).

2007-08-18 02:10:30 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-08-18 01:36:24)

That was my biggest complaint from that montage. A lot of the animations looked stiff, not fluid at all. And the AI lead basically confirmed in the latest podcast thats it a by product of the AI not being able to finish out an animation to begin a new one.

And really, after watching the E3 06 vid and making of, the animation is the only outstanding difference. The helmet reflection I'm willing to write off simply because what he was looking at was an incredibly luminous source (the ark, harsh badlands in the desert). And they cut the bump mapping for artistic reasons (still not 100% sure I buy that, but eh).

The environments look about the same. The Covenant ships look exactly the same, in some ways they look a bit better now (more reflective banshees). And the only real thing missing from the scenery are the particle effects and extensive DOF used in the cutscene.

I'm not going to say that the screens look as good as the media released in 06. But I say its more of a difference in the sense like how the Mad World trailer looked to Gears of War gameplay. I think doing a montage on a game with so little released media pretty much shoots itself in the foot. Can't judge a game that way. If they'd released a few gameplay videos of those scenes, then we'd be in business. But 2-3 secs really doesn't convey much of a scene at all.

The best example I can give is to compare these shots

http://www.bungie.net/images/games/halo3/screensho...
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3/Screensho...

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