2007-07-12 01:29:02

The quality of the video is horrible and it is too dark. I reserve my opions for a viewable video.

2007-07-12 01:42:15

Problem is the in game footage jumps around so much you can't really tell. Like the smoke trail from the RPG looked great, but the rest was ehh.

2007-07-12 02:05:44

Download the PSN trailer
Play the gameplay half in slo mo
Be AMAZED

Seriously

2007-07-12 03:59:39

Killzone's graphics are incredible. Yeah, not like the trailer, but wow they are impressive.

Having said that, there are quite a few that look pretty much like it. The very obvious one is COD4 which from what I've seen, it's hard to come up with a clear winner. They both look incredible. Halo 3 on the other hand..............MGS4 on the other hand........while they look nice, they are nothing ground-breaking like the ones mentioned above.

2007-07-12 04:09:27

Lebato, I was going to respond but your comparison comments will only serve to derail the thread into a KZ versus thread. Lets not go there in this thread.

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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

2007-07-12 04:49:29 In reply to Acert93 (2007-07-12 04:09:27)

2007-07-12 04:50:43 In reply to LEBATO (2007-07-12 04:49:29)

2007-07-12 05:03:27 In reply to LEBATO (2007-07-12 04:49:29)

2007-07-12 05:06:30 In reply to rayy (2007-07-12 05:03:27)

2007-07-12 05:30:30

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21609.html

2005 target video of Killzone vs. 2007 actual game engine.

Hats off to Sony. I'm impressed, and MS had better quite sleeping at the wheel and wake up and shake off the rust. Sony just threw down the graphics gauntlet. With this and Grand Turismo 5. I'm glad Sony is finally giving the 360 its expected competition... great for both the PS3 and 360 fanboys in the long run. Killzone will have to just deliver on gameplay. Hopefully they learned from their mistakes with v.1 of Killzone.

2007-07-12 06:40:44

lol the graphics weren't the only aspect of killzone 2005 that made it incredible and the graphics I can't and wont complain about that cause it looks amazing right now, but all else like explosions during gameplay, impressive looking destructability when something exploded isn't quite on the same level of complexity.

I mean they aren't done yet so who knows, but one things for sure considering how the first game was (which was also graphically impressive for a ps2 title) I didn't expect it to look this good so its a pleasant surprise. Now lets hope the story and gameplay can convince me to pick this one up. I look forward to seeing flat out playthroughs of pieces of a level later on in the game's development and some glimpses of that story.

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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

2007-07-12 11:02:17

lol Optimus where is your usual enthusiasm to an upcoming game?

Though I agree what we were shown is a bit smoke and mirrors, but all games presentations at this stage of development are, we'll see how it turns out.

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2007-07-12 11:29:25 In reply to szaromir (2007-07-12 11:02:17)

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

2007-07-12 12:56:58 In reply to anm8rjp (2007-07-12 05:30:30)

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2007-07-12 19:11:30 In reply to szaromir (2007-07-12 11:02:17)

2007-07-13 20:21:50

game looks unreal. Amazing stuff

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2007-07-13 21:09:38 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-07-12 19:11:30)

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

2007-07-13 21:42:57 In reply to anm8rjp (2007-07-12 05:30:30)

2007-07-13 21:50:10 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-07-13 21:09:38)

I don't think there was any need to take things personal there Op!

He made a fair comment and you've jumped out all guns blazing. Grift does a good job here and it takes up a lot of time (especially when you work full time).

Even you can't deny your tipped more heavily to the 360 on the MS-Sony scales.

Now for the love of god get back on topic as I'm losing the will to live.

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2007-07-13 22:31:26

In regards to the e3 05 vs 07 trailers,

i think they have done a great job with the visuals. Although it lacks alot of the colour in the 05 vid the geometry and effects are spectacular. The gun model is one of the best i've ever seen. Animation is also pretty good.

the big thing that it seems to be very far behind with, is the gameplay and squad combat. The 05 trailer showed moments that are just not possible with this gen's character AI. From the little we've seen of this game's combat, it looks to me like just another run and gun. There was a reason these guys couldn't make a halo beater last time round and i'm thinking it wasn't just because of limitations in technology.
Stunning looking game, but will gameplay match

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2007-07-13 23:05:11 In reply to Scarface (2007-07-13 22:31:26)

I think a lot of that intensity will be recreated with some scripted stuff and a very seamless handling of mid-level cutscenes. We already saw him ducking down and getting some info from that guy in the heat of battle, and he was told where to go and stuff.

Originally there was plans in place to have co-op in the first killzone where you played as Rico, Hakha, Templar and Luger all at the same time with multiple paths, but that game was so rushed out it's not even funny. Hopefully that'll make it into the new one.

2007-07-13 23:05:20

Right that's cleared that up so back to Killzone....

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2007-07-13 23:25:24 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-07-13 23:05:11)

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2007-07-13 23:36:16

Yeah, those moments you speak of were really the things that planted doubt in my mind to begin with (and were the reason I really bought the pre-rendered GRAW trailer with far less moments like that) but I sincerely doubt there'll ever be AI that can convey real motivation. Real decision making.

I mean you can always have someone flank someone else, but a real person's actions have meaning beyond simply attacking, defending, flanking, taking cover, etc. I guess we could get there some day, but that would involve taking a character and really giving him a REAL personality and deciding what he reacts to with minute detail.

I also feel that it might be too big a hassle with fairly insignificant return. I really like the idea of scripting though, I'm pretty comfortable with the roller coaster ride approach as long as you don't "feel" the cart your in, if you get what I mean. In a lot of the MOH and CODs and stuff you sort of felt when the cart was waiting for you, and that's pretty awful.. when you feel like the game sits there waiting for you. That's something Halo did AWESOMELY, you just never felt that and yet there were real "situations" you arrived at.

But yeah I like the Half Life 2 style of scripted events, and I think that while it's more difficult to include YOU in these moments since you're very unpredictable for the game itself, I think the other soldiers that are running around could have the kind of moments you see in the 05 trailer.

Even the first Killzone had moments where a guy would run to a door, you'd get as much time as you wanted, defending some other guys, and the guy at the door would go like "TEMPLAR, THIS WAY!" and the game would "wait" for you but in a very natural way. I think they can expand on that with these scenes.