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Since 1082 Days
2007-08-07 15:19:25
I think it looks solid. Not the best looking game by any means (even on 360)--but I was never expecting it to be anyway. Certain aspects of the games visual design look great really.
I do think the preview was pretty poorly written, but there is some really good info in there anyway. the single player scoring system is really interesting.
But what would I know, I'm a PC loving Halo hater.
Since 513 Days
2007-08-07 15:33:03 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-08-07 15:19:25)
Since 1012 Days
2007-08-07 16:03:32 In reply to mt_sabao (2007-08-07 15:33:03)
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Since 974 Days
2007-08-07 16:21:21
lol milhouse trust me when I say your mind is already made up about Halo 3 just like mine. Its definitely Halo 2 tweaked everything about it could be done on the first xbox nothing remotely impressive about any of it I actually agree with you for once.
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Since 513 Days
2007-08-07 16:38:12 In reply to alimokrane (2007-08-07 16:03:32)
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Since 1204 Days
2007-08-07 17:53:38
@Milhouse, I agree with lots you said.
Yes, a lot of assets look VERY close to Halo 2, some, like the Warthog are extremely hard to differentiate. The grass........it looks good, but there's a patch every 1 kilometer. I've seen this done in PC games so easily back then it isn't even funny. By back then I mean, FarCry back then.
Supposedly they are showing us a freaking jungle and I see so little vegetation it's not even funny, it looks like that jungle in Halo 2 in terms of vegetation density and such. If those shots are clear indication of the final product, FarCry on PC has a much MUCH better looking environment.
Since 974 Days
2007-08-07 19:27:06
Like I said before Bungie could've dropped every feature they announced like 4 player co-op (no co-op whatsoever) added no new weapons or equipment and just give the game amazing graphics and people would be pleased.
Don't mind me I'm just being myself, but I'm happy with the look of the game I understand others are disappointed though.
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October 20th 2007 (A good day)
Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.
pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite
Since 487 Days
2007-08-07 20:07:32 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-08-07 19:27:06)
My opinion:
Bungie and T10 failed to deliver, because they are bad in project management and are not able to deliver required feature in a time span. I think the the biggest failure is that Microsoft let both studios total control over their projects. This always reminds me on Gears of War. Microsoft told them so long before that the AI sucks, but Cliff blablablub thought it was cooler to have that chainsaw instead of improving AI or give the game at least a little storry. This happens if there is no other person that take a close look on the project and try to validate the product against market requirements. Then project manager and developers lose themself in little, unimportant details. Just remeber at Forza 2. In one of the pitpasses the project manger said they have another financial model when he has spoken about content creation. With other words, they don't care, because they are first party and payed by Microsoft. There is no market pressure to them. This is the point why both first parties are underdelivering, because they rest on its laures.
You have to face the facts that at Bungie are very young people and so i guess they are more unexperienced than other studios in that industry.
Just remeber that Microsoft wants them to make "the best looking 360 game!" available at the moment. It is sooo far away from being a good looking game (not to mention best looking game), so it really looks that one hand (Microsoft) doesn't know what the other hand (Bungie) does.
Mr Pant
siesSince 928 Days
2007-08-07 20:31:06
Jumping the gun a bit aren't we? We haven't even seen a single shred of direct feed of a mission yet. Just a crappily thrown together game recording, with a bitrate lower than the IQ of your average grunt.
I have the September EGM as well, and I am definitely not impressed with those shots. Not just that they aren't very detailed, but that they aren't very good from a visual standpoint either. Seems to be some artifacts from a low-res Jpeg blown up from the size of the Geico Gecko to the size of Godzilla. Not to mention they seem like they were taken by Frankie during his less sober instances. Screens at Bungie.net are a different story however. Most of the shots look great.
I'm definitely displeased with MS/Bungie regarding all this secrecy. It's utterly pathetic. Of course they know everyone is going to buy it already, so maybe they're trying to keep the mystery and surprise. Color me unimpressed with that idea. I can't blame anyone for being unimpressed by Halo 3's graphics, or with Halo 3 in general. They've shown less of this game than any other title releasing this year. And it's really starting to get irritating.
I like the approach they are taking with the campaign though. Not just upping the graphics, but increasing the battlefield size, as well as allowing you to take your friends in with you.
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Since 639 Days
2007-08-07 21:19:06
WoW millhouse, if you find GoW has no story, then you leave me speechless, maybe you need the story spoon fed, but gears has plenty of story, and more atmosphere and action than most games. Enemy AI? really did you play the game on insane? nothing wrong with enemy AI, at least they dont stay there and shoot like most shooters, they will try to circle you, shoot nades... i dont see where the ai goes wrong... Its not playing vs humans, but no game is. By comparaison Lost Planet has the worst AI, and cod3 is just bad... i only also played RSV and GraW, so thats 5 games, and GoW has the best IMO. youre allowed to disagree, so i am with your last post.
Back to topic, yes Halo 3 disapoints visually, but bugie has made marathon, Myth, omni... they NEVER disapointed.
PS, forza 2 is still fun even after a month, cant say the same about Dirt... so maybe graphics arent everything.
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Since 984 Days
2007-08-07 21:46:14 In reply to Schmooboo (2007-08-07 21:19:06)
But this isn't about GoW! This is a Halo bashing thread!
3 years and for what? A new story, new guns, new vehicles, new environments, updated graphics, new options in combat like equipment, new bigger scale to fights, new online modes, new replay features, new character and map customisation features... worthless.
Every other game series delivers a totally new experience every time, like the last one hadn't exisited! Take PGR, FIFA, FF, CS, mario, zelda - completely different every time! Bungie just lack innovation.
But in all seriousness, theres just too many graphics whores on this thread.
I personally think Halo 3 looks pretty sweet; considering the scale. Bigger environs and battles than previous iterations, and we know the AI in Halo is great. That in itself should mean a solid game, mouth-watering graphics or not.
Yes, i'm dissappointed that Halo 3 doesn't seem to be able to demonstrate the same level of particle, or lighting effects that the trailer (e3 06) did, but thats all just skin-deap anyway. I recon Halo 3 will have the gameplay and feature muscle to have lasting appeal.
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Since 487 Days
2007-08-07 22:04:31 In reply to Schmooboo (2007-08-07 21:19:06)
I think Gears is a stunning action game with impressive graphics, but it also has its problems.
I didn't play GoW at insane, but i've finished it at hard (you just can play insane if you played hard). The AI isn't good, really not. It's just duck and cover, nothing more. When there is some locust comming to you, you can simply kill him with your chainsaw. But i've never find it challanging. When it comes to GRAW we really have to differenciate, because GRAW 1 is much more harder than GRAW 2. I've finished GRAW 2 at elevated risk (highest level) and it was much easier than GRAW 1 on normal. GRAW 1 had a really nice AI. Maybe not groundbraking, but you were forced to find you own strategy. When it comes to RS:Vegas i think it's a game with one of the the best AI. I've finished the game at realitic and it was really, really hard. Yeah, the AI is scripted (but also a kind of randomized), but it's so hard that it was really challanging to beat the AI.
I've taken much more time in that hangar to get up the stairs to catch Irena than killing RAM in GoW. The problem in GoW is that the levels are really small or each place you are visiting is to small. So it's hard to get other strategies than duck and cover. But it's not just AI, it's also the gameplay design that makes a game challanging and sets its difficutly. One game that a has really good and challanging gameplay is Battle Field Modern Combat (one of my favorite games). You've got a wide area and some team members that you have to control. You can switch through all you soldieres on the field that have different abilities (weapons). Really good gameplay, but it lacks a little of a complete storry.
Since 1803 Days
2007-08-08 00:52:19 In reply to Milhouse (2007-08-07 20:07:32)
Is 3 years not a pretty standard time for games developent these days? (unless your EA)
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Mr. Bad Cop Since 1053 Days
2007-08-08 01:33:38 In reply to Phaethon360 (2007-08-07 20:31:06)
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."
Since 974 Days
2007-08-08 01:40:01
deleted my comment no point :)
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October 20th 2007 (A good day)
Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.
pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite
Hot stuff!
Since 950 Days
2007-08-08 02:07:02
Far too many people jumping to FINAL conclusions in this thread based on not a whole lot. By all means critique whatever's been released but comments like "failed to deliver" are more premature than a teenager in Amsterdam.
I showed 2 non-traditional Halo fans Halo 3 today. One an ex games tester an hardened cynic (i.e. hates everything, loved Bioshock mind) and another guy disappointed by Halo 2. Both very impressed with Halo 3 in different ways. Take from that what you will.
Again I haven't seen EGM but 1 patch of grass every KM??? Surely there are some shots of the jungle level out there that actually show vegetation, the level is positively swarming with it.
Funnily enough, Bungie have shown waay more campaign of Halo 3 than they did for Halo 2. All you saw of Halo 2 was the New Mombassa E3 playthrough which ended up getting binned and the EGM special revealing the second level and the drones. That was it. You guys have already seen/read about parts of 3 levels. I doubt there will be any more reveals (at least in terms of campaign content anyway) but that's a fair bit already.
Lastly to expand on Grift's comment. I didn't expect the graphical detail to be as good as Gears. Purely because of the differences in scale and level design. In Halo 3 you are playing in maps that are MILES wide, with significantly more enemies and other shenanigans going on. It's analogous to saying a car model in GTA should look as good as one in PGR, i.e. not the most sensible of comparisons.
Personally I think the game looks and plays great and it's been expanded vertically in several areas in terms of user generated content, community interaction, depth and re-playability. But hey, don't take my word from it, I'm probably just another Halo hating mod after all.... :)
Mr Pant
siesSince 928 Days
2007-08-08 02:31:29 In reply to deftangel (2007-08-08 02:07:02)
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Since 826 Days
2007-08-08 02:31:38 In reply to deftangel (2007-08-08 02:07:02)
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Since 1204 Days
2007-08-08 02:36:35 In reply to deftangel (2007-08-08 02:07:02)