X360, PS3 Sunday, April 30, 2006 | 10:28 PM

Brothers in Arms 3 images & trailer

Brothers in Arms 3 images & trailer

Finnish magazine Pelaaja put up a trailer of Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway which Gearbox released, together with two new images. It's hard to know what is what right now, as some stuff in the video looks better than the same stuff on the images, and the other way around.
Update: Added another image.


First trailer 720p
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First trailer
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Commented on 2006-04-30 22:44:58
Legends... That IGN file was too big. Looks amazing; the explosion OMG! Bit unsure of this being actually played by some one. Looks a bit killzone to me.
Commented on 2006-04-30 22:45:18
looks good
Commented on 2006-04-30 22:47:13
It seems a 360 game can look the nuts with out the over use of bloom.
Commented on 2006-04-30 22:50:22
id say looks more real than killzone, but there was something about it that didn't seem like someone playing!

Pictures and video very nice none the less. the first time ive played a 1280x720 video. Perfect! Gotta love VLC :P
Commented on 2006-04-30 22:53:27
You go 360 :) Well it looks awesome we gotta keep in mind we've yet to see nighttime gameplay scenes to see lighting like we see in the second image.
Commented on 2006-04-30 22:54:06 In reply to jammy2049
Posted by jammy2049
id say looks more real than killzone, but there was something about it that didn't seem like someone playing!

Pictures and video very nice none the less. the first time ive played a 1280x720 video. Perfect! Gotta love VLC :P
Yeah me too. Great quality. I think that just like killzone and the first graw vid, the movement is to smooth to be controlled with a controller or mouse. I think they are just using the killzone tactic of hype. Seems to work, I cant wait.
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:06:53
Amazing quailty..

Not as good as killzone but near enough.. I think this is all real time just scripted..
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:11:02
i think this is only for pc & ps3 because i can`t see any report for x360 version of this game on www.brothersinarmsgame.com
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:13:12
That is amazing.....need I say more, I know most of us after watching that have our jaws on the floor.
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:15:40 In reply to mehdino1
Posted by mehdino1
i think this is only for pc & ps3 because i can`t see any report for x360 version of this game on www.brothersinarmsgame.com
Xbox was the main platform for BIA1 and 2. Ubi wouldn't screw them over and risk losing 30% of their profits.
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:16:32 In reply to mehdino1
THIS IS AN XBOX 360 TITLE!!! the official xbox magazine U.S. version has a 10 PAGE preview of it... 10 pages!!! and the 360 is the base platform!!! sheesh...
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:18:08 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
Amazing quailty..

Not as good as killzone but near enough.. I think this is all real time just scripted..
Of course. I don't think that there is anything in the vid that can't be done in the game; they just scripted it to get a perfect movie like trailer. The environment destuction will fun as hell.
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:23:22 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
Amazing quailty..

Not as good as killzone but near enough.. I think this is all real time just scripted..
Why compare it to Killzone at all? This is realtime unlike previously mentioned game.
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:24:46
Was i the first to mention Killzone .. ey ey ey was I ??

Well then ...

That is why i followed up with "I think this is all real time just scripted..!
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:27:15
next-gen goodness slowly but surely...
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:30:57
What makes me laugh is that when people see something poo, they say its not next gen and when they see something as good as that, people are like "its not realtime, it can't be next gen"

JUST IMAGINE IF IT IS!!! That explosion is fantastic!
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:31:47 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
Not as good as killzone but near enough.. I think this is all real time just scripted..
I think people don't understand why Killzone was so crazy (and NOT realtime, which is now confirmed to be CGI). It was the sum of the parts. Render quality (outstanding filtering and excellent anti-aliasing both on edges and in shaders), very little faked detail (e.g. very high poly counts on everything), completely smooth animation, AI and scripting that was flawless (e.g. the squad mate who flanks the enemy at the top of the stairs and then beats him with the gun), particle effects up the wazzoo and excellent fire/explosion particles, hair physics, advanced facial animations combined with excellent body emotions, very advanced destructible vehicles, and perfectly smooth controls -- all in 1080p in a very large open battlefield.

The scripting in the Killzone video is just nuts. Everything was spot on and obviously much of what they showed in the trailer could be broken in game (or never used... which would lead to massive dev time for unused features/segments of the game). Some parts seem likely (like in mid air when they almost collide and the guy gives a thumbs up). Others parts, like all the collaboration on the highway top seems to be super advanced. Just watch the animations. They are obviously hand perfected and all very dynamic and responsive to the world.

Just compare to BiA. Even though it looks nice, you see the guys all running the same for the most part.

The BiA is very believable for a game--it obviously is part of the game IMO. You have a HUD (note the compass) and can see your character giving signals. Anyone who has played BiA 1/2 would notice this. I only played the demos and it is a DUH. BiA does have some scripting in that you have enemies in a zone and when you enter the zone it initiates events. But all the AI stuff looked like typical BiA.

The lone thing that stood out as being faked/scripted for the trailer was when the friendly guy gets shot and lands in your arms. They may have this in the game, but who says you are following that dude???!! That is something that can be broken in game.

But what I think we were seeing was the OPENING of BiA3. It looks like this may be where you start... or at least start a level. But the short amount of time I have played BiA this scene does not seem out of place. It looks nice, but it also doesn't look super different either--just better quality.

Now go compare the KZ2 trailer to KZ1 on the PS2. KZ2's CGI does not look like an improvement, refinement, and higher quality version of KZ1. KZ2 looks like all the best qualities in every real time game we have seen (animation, facial reactions, graphics, particles, AI, etc) all roled into 1 game -- and then improved multi-fold.

But it doesn't matter, it was CGI. Hopefully Guerrilla can come up with a great game that captures the essense of the KZ2 CGI. But using it as a benchmark, or comparing games to it (real games) is silly.

This is light years away from what we saw in the KZ2 video. I was just watching the KZ2 video the other day. It is nuts on so many levels. Like I said last year: I would pay $10 to go watch a 90 minute movie of Killzone. The quality of the CGI and the action was feature length film quality.

None of the 360 or PS3 realtime footage has given us an indication that we will see anything like that any time soon. Maybe close in regards to faked (e.g. like how BiA3 fakes a tree hedge by using parallax mapping), but the same quality and finesse? No way.


And now I have a post to link to every time someone says, "Man, that is almost as good as KZ2!"
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:33:55 In reply to Acert93
LOL, 9 posts past while acert was typing this. Will print it out and read a little bit each night:)
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:37:55 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
Was i the first to mention Killzone .. ey ey ey was I ??
No, but you compared it to KZ. "Not as good as Killzone". Of course the other distinguished posters to solicit our scorn are...
Posted by Scarface
I think they are just using the killzone tactic of hype.
Posted by Jammy2049
id say looks more real than killzone, but there was something about it that didn't seem like someone playing!
Of course they seem to be saying on the one hand it is fake/using super scripted sequences ala KZ or on the other hand it is more realistic than KZ (i.e. which was fake), but isn't quite gameplay and there is something wrong. They are questioning the footage being real.

You just are comparing it to KZ, a CGI ;) Not the first to mention, but the first, "Not as good as Killzone" CGI! In due time Jammy and Scarface will also be flogged for mentioning the CGI! Bad posters!!
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:39:47
It's similar to the original BIA when it starts off. It's in game but your not actually playing. but later in the game, you are in the exact scenario and take control.
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:40:11 In reply to Scarface
Posted by Scarface
LOL, 9 posts past while acert was typing this. Will print it out and read a little bit each night:)
To my credit, there were other posts below his when I started... like 3 ;)

Btw, get in line for your flogging! How dare you mention KZ in a game thread! That is like inviting chaos/fanboys!! >:( BAD SCARFACE! ;)

Now back to BiA3. The 720p trailer looks nice, hope to see more of the game soon, especially a sunny day!
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:41:42 In reply to Acert93
Posted by Acert93
Of course they seem to be saying on the one hand it is fake/using super scripted sequences ala KZ or on the other hand it is more realistic than KZ (i.e. which was fake), but isn't quite gameplay and there is something wrong. They are questioning the footage being real.

You just are comparing it to KZ, a CGI ;) Not the first to mention, but the first, "Not as good as Killzone" CGI! In due time Jammy and Scarface will also be flogged for mentioning the CGI! Bad posters!!
Um actually someone said looks more real than Killzone i didn't know if he meant real as in quailty or real as in believeable..

So i thought i would follow that up with a actually its not comment..

Anyway who cares ..
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:43:53
If this is the IGN vid, i' dhave to say this was scripted.
I don't believe this was realtimg, everything was too smooth.
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:45:02 In reply to Acert93
Posted by Acert93
You just are comparing it to KZ, a CGI ;) Not the first to mention, but the first, "Not as good as Killzone" CGI! In due time Jammy and Scarface will also be flogged for mentioning the CGI! Bad posters!!
Whats wrong with comparing a scripted trailer to another scripted trailer. Its not some kind of sacred name that must not be spoken of. You are too touchy when it comes to that killzone vid. The kilzone vid was a target of what killzone "could" play like, and IMO so is this. The first vid of BIA1 I ever saw was of a mission where you could see the guy playing in a window in realtime. That blew me away as much as any Halo 2 vid and until i see a similar demonstrtion for BIA3, I dont see the harm in comparing to KZ2.
Commented on 2006-04-30 23:48:01 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
Um actually someone said looks more real than Killzone i didn't know if he meant real as in quailty or real as in believeable..

So i thought i would follow that up with a actually its not comment..

Anyway who cares ..
You don't have to explain yourself to acert. If one of the admins are getting pissed off with Killzone based discussion, then let them tell you off.
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