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Some of those look really sweet, others not so much.

I see a black Tony Hawk, lol :P. I'm not into skating games, but it looks like 6/10

You gotta love the expressionless faces :\

I really, really enjoy the Tony Hawk mechanics. They're simply the best when it comes to fluid, addictive, chaining of tricks, and they've influenced other games that in turn have become the best in their respective category simply by copying large chunks of proven-to-be successful gameplay.

The thing that ultimately puts me off Tony Hawk is the authencity with which the whole skateboarding culture is represented and depicted. It excludes people like me who can barely stand on one leg, let alone a tiny piece of wood with wheels. I'm not into the music, the clothing, the brands or the attitude. I don't really dislike any of those things, but I just find it difficult to relate.

That's a problem for me with many games that I essentially enjoy. I mean, when I play a football game I don't know first thing about who's who, what team is better or worse than the other. Leagues and stuff just pass way over my head, I really just want two teams and get to pass people and score. For me it's become a problem that games like this don't often create their own atmosphere and "private club" anymore - they're set in others.

I think that's why Sega's racing games are so legendary now. You didn't have to be a complete car fanatic, getting into the "street racing culture" of spraying your car and buying parts.. You didn't have to know anything about racing at all, because once you powered up your Saturn or popped a coin in the arcade machine, Sega Rally painted its very own frame of reference. Outrun is still more about Magical Sound Shower than actual Ferraris.

I often hear people say "I'm not a sports fan" when they justify not buying a footie or hockey game, but the truth is that the game mechanics have very little in common with the actual sport. Enjoying chaining together moves in Tony Hawk appeals to the same basic instinct in you as stringing together Tate combos in Shinobi or getting a huge belt in Mutant Storm.

So it's unfortunate then that it's become a statement, buying into a culture you don't really identify with.

"I didn't know you're into skateboarding...?"

Well I bleeding aren't, but I like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater. :(

Yeah, I'm not into skateboarding either. If I see an event on TV, I'll stop by and watch for a while, but really don't mind who wins or losses, and I myself don't practice the sport at all, although I did try for a while when I was ~15.

I also like playing football (american) games and I don't like football at all. I could care less who wins the superbowl, that and baseball is one of those sports I just can't stand watching, much less playing in real life.

Now, it is of help when you are a fan of the sport and you play the game. It immerses you way more. Soccer and basketball in my case are my top two sports, and I would only buy games for those. I can play a football videogame, but I won't buy it. For non-conventional sports this doesn't apply to me though, as I have bought a couple of Tony Hawk games during the franchise's life.

When does this game release again? Is it next year?

Was supposed to release this year, but we'll see. I'm guessing it is as they are advertising it quite a bit.

Are all games copying Ghost Recon and having a mini camera window now?

I hate it when characters always stare into space.
Hope they change that in this gen/nextgen. (4 years)