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Not that graphically appealing realy, looks pretty much like a PS2 game.

^^ ps2 had a upgrade i am unaware off ?

i hate footy games, but visually it looks like what i would expect of a next gen footy game

Doesn't look as good as Fifa graphically.

Pes 2008 is not a serious game..people always get happy about the next one when its exactly the same lol. always slight improvements half of them are unnoticeable which is pointless..ill take pro seriously when they get the basics right such as..ohh i dont know money for transfers instead instead of spasticated points they use instead in negotiation periods..realistic stats..because i still dont know how i guy with 95 speed can be caught by a defender with 65 lol...no off the pitch action which is fake. looks like a 9 year old designed the game. so basic an now a days football is much more complex. fifa 07 was a very well detailed game with good graphics, lisences, moeny tranfers proper commentry its endless that is why fifa 2008 will crush pes 2008 peace.. :)

Hmm, yeah it's funny how all those things you mentioned has nothing to do with GAMEPLAY which is where FIFA becomes PESs bitch.

Unless of course you are one of those guys who doesn't like a challenge and just wants to win every game with no depth and no challenge.
Then yes, FIFA is great.

I'm sick of these clueless people wondering in here saying "lol ps2 game?!?! lol im so smart and witty!" when PES have never been about the graphics and every PES will know that.