PS3 Saturday, September 9, 2006 | 4:19 PM

4 Lair images

4 Lair images

Lair has been seemingly forgotten by Sony since months now, so it's with pleasure that we finally get these 4 new screenshots. Knowing this is Factor 5 developing I'm totally convinced will look amazing, if even these shots don't really give any "wow awesome" feeling.


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Commented on 2006-09-09 16:41:50
Maybe that's what "Factor 5" means but before anyone goes into another "SONY LIED!!! WTF!!!" shock, these are from a quite early build.
Don't believe me? Just wait until you see gameplay at TGS.

As far as these screenshots go- They are looking rather..."un-inspired" to say the least ;)


If the game does look as bad as this at TGS (almost 100% unlikely) I will like to say "This game went from a PS3 hero to a PS3 zero!" :p
Commented on 2006-09-09 16:45:24
This is looking great, but what the hell is the deal with the small shots?

I've got great faith in the game, simply because Factor 5 knows how to make a damned good flight game, and one that mixes ground and flight combat should be nice. They experimented with this mix in Rogue Squadron 3 a bit, and I felt it was done well.
Commented on 2006-09-09 16:58:39
The 3rd screen looks pretty bad compared to what it was supposed to look like.


The 2nd one looks better though but it seems that downscaling the pic is helping.

I hope they deliver in the end.
Commented on 2006-09-09 17:13:10
Wasnt this game supposed to have hundreds of dragons in the background?
Commented on 2006-09-09 17:27:55
they look like godzilla with wings!
Commented on 2006-09-09 17:38:22
Those suck guys... come'on. Those better from an old build.
Commented on 2006-09-09 18:24:11
It looks like a really good looking game now instead of a CG movie
Commented on 2006-09-09 18:36:24 In reply to newbielives
Posted by newbielives
It looks like a really good looking game now
??? lol?? Get your eyes checked mate ;)

This is nothing compared to what the final (hell, even E3 06) version of Lair will look like.
These screens must have been from the first day of development lol
Notice the change of HUD btw...From that other in-game screenshot (that looks 1000 times better).

I don't know why these screens got leaked- It just confused everyone. Or maybe iot wasn't leaked but released on purpose so people will get shocked at TGS on how much the graphics improved.
Commented on 2006-09-09 20:22:13 In reply to antena
You need to get a reality check mate because this is what Lair is going to look like now.

Do you seriously believe all the Sony BS?

Lair they showed at GDC was a tech demo, this is what the game will actually look like.
Posted by antena
??? lol?? Get your eyes checked mate ;)

This is nothing compared to what the final (hell, even E3 06) version of Lair will look like.
These screens must have been from the first day of development lol
Notice the change of HUD btw...From that other in-game screenshot (that looks 1000 times better).

I don't know why these screens got leaked- It just confused everyone. Or maybe iot wasn't leaked but released on purpose so people will get shocked at TGS on how much the graphics improved.
Commented on 2006-09-09 20:28:24
i remember the demo they showed and it was put on this site and someone said yeah thats realtime. And i was like BS it clearly isnt. To be honest it doesnt look half bad, weve seen that some companies doing nextgen just arnt utilizing the power available. I think everyone is just comparing this to what sony showed. Sony are shooting themselves in the foot really. Delaying the europe launch was a bad one and showing lots of cg then lots of ingame ones that are way of the mark isnt making people happy.
Commented on 2006-09-09 20:52:55
this looks like PS2, what the hell. This is bullshit, how they showed it looking awesome, now it looks like crap. Its not like the PS3 isn't capable of doing what they showed last year on this game, its just that the developers aren't.
Commented on 2006-09-09 21:00:00
lol well the ps3 isnt capable of what they shown. None of the nextgen consoles are. Maybe a really powerful pc with dx10 could do something similiar. But then it would be like one of those 3dmark things where it runs at 15fps and isnt playable lol. Dont get me wrong nextgen consoles are capable of great graphics, anything with unreal 3 is gonna rock. But you wont see killzone 2 graphics on nextgen consoles.

edit: actually the first few screenshots I seen are easily doable, but the video they released a few weeks ago isnt possible.
Commented on 2006-09-09 21:01:53
- the screens arent hd

- this could be an old build, and the game isnt finished at all.

- it doesnt look as bad as everyone says, but i agree its not near the PRE-RENDERED movie, notice the PRE-RENDERED part.

so in short: just wait untill the game is finished before you state things that are not necissarely accurate.

and if your ps2 can do that, i want your ps2. cause mine certainly doesnt look like this. again, in short: false statement
Commented on 2006-09-09 21:19:55
I am not comparing this to what Sony said.

My statements comes from the FACT that these (leaked or not, i dunno!) screens are from an early build!

How do I know? It's not on the official site, different (less advanced HUD) and obviously the MUCH worse graphics.

I also read a preview (might have been on IGN so check..If not I'll try to get the link) that said it looked as good as that trailer (in the PS3 pre-order disc) and was almost CGI quality with literally hundreds of dragons flying around at a smooth frame-rate and clear textures.
Does anyone think what that preview said matches these N64 like graphics we are seeing here (lol, not literally of course)? Not to mention there are hardly more than 5 dragons on one screen.
Here is the impressive "secret hand-on preview": http://blogs.ign.com/Matt-IGN/2006/08/15/

But yeah obviously the best thing to do is to wait until TGS but I'll bet good amounts of money this is no where near the final build (hell it looks like the lighting and the textures hasnt even been put into these screens).

I am not being a fan-boy (check all my posts if you can be bothered, I am always honest about what I see..weather on PSINext or on Xboxyde) but I honestly feel I am stating the rather obvious.

Does Motorstorm look like shit compared to the E3 05 trailer? No (if anything it matches it) and there is a stronger developer team behind 'Lair' but again: TGS.
Commented on 2006-09-09 21:47:55 In reply to antena
Posted by antena
Does Motorstorm look like shit compared to the E3 05 trailer? No (if anything it matches it) and there is a stronger developer team behind 'Lair' but again: TGS.
umm, it looks nothing like the "real time" trailer they made, the textures are bad and the scenery isn't very complex, it looks ok at best, thankfully its so fast and frantic that they can get away with it

as for this, quite obviously an early build, but its very poor, that fire effect virges on F.E.A.R poorness levels (which had the most awful fire effect), we'll have to wait to TGS to see if this is any better
Commented on 2006-09-09 22:16:12
Hmn.......HONESTLY, that looks very average.
Commented on 2006-09-09 22:55:42
The third pic is old as hell,do not worry about that pic. You do notice that there are to different type of HUD Oh and look at this

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l293/Kninja_2006/lairpp7.jpg

So tell me, how is it thta third pic does not look like all the other good pics? That is because it old, it was friom a magazine scan that they blew up.
Commented on 2006-09-09 23:29:44
So what's up with this game anyway, I mean, what's it all about?

Do you play as the Dragon, or is that just your "vehicle"...?
Commented on 2006-09-09 23:42:02 In reply to Jato
I think you can play as both.
Commented on 2006-09-10 00:06:49
Thank you, loudninja. You seem to know some FACTS :)

You play as the dragon and change the out-come of the ground battles Dynasty Warrior style.
The AI keeps fighting and you burn, crash who-ever you want on the ground while keeping aware of the enemy dragons on air.

lol guys, new sources claim that Sony is indeed putting old screens out on purpose so people get even a nicer "WOW THIS GAME HAS IMPROVED!" shock at TGS! :)
As many people said "New Sony PRs are odd!" lol!!
Commented on 2006-09-10 00:08:51
Ah I see, so is this a talking Dragon we're dealing with here, or is it as I stated earlier just a fancy kind of "vehicle"...?
Commented on 2006-09-10 00:24:01 In reply to Jato
I guess you can say its like Drakenguard.
Commented on 2006-09-10 00:44:58 In reply to loudninja
Posted by loudninja
I guess you can say its like Drakenguard.
I'm not that familiar with Drakenguard (I don't own a ps2), but a quick info search tells me (I think) that it's kinda how I described it, as in the dragon being your "vehicle" and not a "real character"....right?
Commented on 2006-09-10 00:48:04 In reply to Ezekiel_Xz
Posted by Ezekiel_Xz
lol well the ps3 isnt capable of what they shown. None of the nextgen consoles are. Maybe a really powerful pc with dx10 could do something similiar. But then it would be like one of those 3dmark things where it runs at 15fps and isnt playable lol. Dont get me wrong nextgen consoles are capable of great graphics, anything with unreal 3 is gonna rock. But you wont see killzone 2 graphics on nextgen consoles.
If I remember correctly the trailer that im talking about looked similar to the type of gfx that are in Gears of War, which is why I said its possible, or really close. It does use the U3 engine right? But this new stuff just looks shitty.
Commented on 2006-09-10 00:51:15 In reply to Jato
Yeah, I guess it something like that, but It looks like te dragons attack on there own as well.
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