2007-10-30 22:26:37

DOA had it's cheap moments, yes... DOA2 Boss... Tengu, there were some moments were the A.I. would just use the foot clap wirlhwind knocking out everything 10 feets from him... and ence he started... he never stopped, it's cheap cuz you can't really do anything and he doesn't seem to have a limitation to the use of that power.

2007-10-30 22:31:08

I dont blame the AI when i die in NG, the game is just tough. The grunts do as much damage as the bosses in other games. lol :P

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2007-10-30 22:38:45

tengu ...i hate.

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2007-10-30 22:49:15

DOA is my favorite franchise and the AI in DOA4, especially Alpha is cheap as hell, but its a fighting game and your supposed to play against other people so i dont mind, but the AI in NG is not cheap.

"Tengu, there were some moments were the A.I. would just use the foot clap wirlhwind knocking out everything 10 feets from him... and ence he started... he never stopped, it's cheap cuz you can't really do anything and he doesn't seem to have a limitation to the use of that power"

There is no move in DOA that cannot be blocked, evaded or countered (as long as you are not stunned or in the air) This is true for even Alpha, she just happens to be cheap by being incredibly fast, strong and evasive.

2007-10-30 22:56:35 In reply to Xion4360 (2007-10-30 22:49:15)

2007-10-31 00:07:08

Why is the discussion drifting away from NG to DOA? Yes the bosses of DOA were dumb.

NG however was diffrent. If you ever encountered a doppelganger in NG you'd know how hard it is to fight them, same with the black Ninjas who come in a group of up to 5. You couldn't beat them with spamtactics cause they'd block/dodge everything if you repeat it once or twice in a row. The fights were crazy and anyone who mastered them will agree that it was a lot of fun and very satisfying.

But there were other enemys of course: The dumb zombies and the animal like creatures jumping out of the ground weren't very smart but this is how I expect them to act. A zombie shouldn't be smart and do crazy moves, altho he still reacts according to your position/action and every time you try using cheap smap tactics on them.

Go on and try playing NG with spam tactics. It will probably work for the low difficulties, however it's very frustrating cause repeated attack patterns will be punished very quickly and it takes a lot of time cause you will die more.

To finish my anology I refer to the video we saw on the TGS presentation. Appart from the big monsters at the end of the presentation every single enemy seemed to be smart and not follow stupid patterns. Not as smart as the NG Ninjas but pretty close.

2007-10-31 00:59:54

Since synce put the ball rolling again. The only 360 game I KNOW to be native 1080p is Virtua Tennis. But whats more worrying is the general belief that all PS3 games are 1080p native.

Not nearly all PS3 games are native 1080p. Examples of games that ARE NOT 1080p (but 720p or LESS) include Heavenly Sword, Folklore, Resistance (1280x704), Motorstorm and many many more. In FACT the MAJORITY of PS3 games DO NOT support nor natively render 1080i/p, support meaning do not upscale and will not function in HD on a HD set that doesnt support 720p. Games like Virtua Fighter 5 render 720p native and upscale to 1080.

Games that ALL OF YOU misinformed souls claim support 1080p native on the PS3 include Ratchet (1280x704 actual), Ninja Gaiden Sigma (720p), GTHD (1440x1080), GT5 Prologue (1280x1080) and others.

Of course there are worse examples on both systems but 540p in The Darkness and 600p in TH Proving Ground and COD3 are ones for the PS3.

The amount of misinformation concerning the (perceived superior) abilities of the PS3 and its games is staggering and is further bolstered by the underestimation and lack of faith in the abilities of the 360, when both systems are pretty much the closest that two rival systems have ever been in the history of console gaming.

And me trying to inform you here will be of no use because the "HD era begins at 1080p" and "Halo3 640p sucks!!!!!!" etc

But think of this: ask any PS3 fanboy which resolution all PS3 games run at and you get 1080p. Ask any 360 fanboy which resolution all 360 games run at and you get 720p (though most will probably have heard of the unfortunate Halo3 resolution incident). Which group is more misinformed, or are they both equally misinformed.

2007-10-31 01:14:37

I bow at ya, my friend. great tech info.

But Fuck a 720p Halo 3 ... If we had to let go the awesome Light/HDR the game acheived to trade-off for some fuckin' stupid Resolution Claim... that would be the true "incident".
It could use some more AA, tough. :P

2007-10-31 01:19:06

The game looks pretty much passable, but that's all. NOTHING looks incredible, well, the blood does I think. Everything else looks pretty much "meh" for todays' standards. I don't see how people come up with "it'll run at 60fps!!!" and so did NG on Xbox, and still managed to look better than pretty much every other game on any console, and I believe it even supported a higher resolution than average.

In other words, this game isn't making any impact on graphics, not even remotely close to the impact NG had back then.

And please stop it with the sad excuse of "it's because of the style". Come on. Better shadowing and lighting don't change the style, better graphics don't change the style--at least they don't HAVE to. How come the CGI movies in NG managed to keep the style with 100 times better graphics?

Please do stop it, it is ridiculous and is nothing more than just a excuse.

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2007-10-31 01:34:34

Ridiculous are dogs trolling NG.
What the flying Fuck did you expect. Ninja gaiden is the DOA3 Engine put in Action Adventure Game... This is what you Get DOA4 in the same genera.

As If there are other gamers better than what NG2 shows at this development time.... DMC4?, lol

2007-10-31 01:51:03

For the genre, pace of the game and the great AI, I think it looks really good especially for this stage of development. Also, Team Ninja games all use the same engine and style so never expect a huge change of direction.
Looks alot better than DMC4 already and that going to be released soon...

2007-10-31 04:34:37 In reply to blinx01 (2007-10-31 01:51:03)

2007-10-31 15:35:42

Well, i'm getting it no matter how crap or good it looks. NinjaGaiden is one of the best action games ever, and I doubt NG2 will be less.

Insta buy. period.

2007-10-31 16:44:01

On thing I am dissapointed in NG2 from the demo atleast I saw is that Ryu do not make any more rolls as dodge, he slides.

Rolling and evading in acrobatic ways that NG Sigma added is what you counted on to not to get hit.

But sliding to evade is just lame.

I know that there is ALOT of people who used the rolling and acrobatic technique in NG series to avoid getting hit, but now you gotta slide you way out, kind of doesn't do anything.

In the demo he got hit pretty good even when trying to evade.

I do hope that the rolling and acrobatic techniques are still there though.

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2007-10-31 17:56:04 In reply to Sath (2007-10-31 16:44:01)

2007-10-31 18:00:17

There is a difference between dashing yourself out than rolling.

In dashing, your body is still up in the open to get hit from slashes, magic, bullets...etc. while rolling is is so low on the ground they often misses.

Difference is quite much there, and it doesnt matter which "animation" is more ninja like, as long as he doesnt get hit and fights awesome like always he is a ninja.

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2007-10-31 22:21:25

thats exactly my point, it DOESN't make a difference in the gameplay, the difference is only cosmetic.

2007-10-31 22:27:37 In reply to Xion4360 (2007-10-31 22:21:25)

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2007-10-31 22:43:50 In reply to Sath (2007-10-31 22:27:37)

2007-11-01 00:19:59 In reply to Xion4360 (2007-10-31 22:43:50)

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2007-11-01 02:38:55 In reply to Sath (2007-11-01 00:19:59)

2007-11-01 06:06:30

As long Ryu is invincible during the dash, the new replacement for the rolling is ok for me. It looks a little bit cooler and more ninja like.

I think Itagaki won't that Ryu looks like an acrobat from the circus (that was also the reason why he lost all his handstand moves + the stance from DOA3 to DOA4).

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2007-11-01 08:57:31 In reply to Xion4360 (2007-11-01 02:38:55)

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2007-11-01 09:51:45

Rolling // Dashing

Serious Buisness!

2007-11-01 17:04:28

the graphics look somewhat dissapointing to be honest...I know a lot of Japanese games look like that but surely they could add some more details to the characters? blood looks strange though