The first 10 minutes: Assassin's Creed
2007-11-15 22:35:06 by BlimBlim
Last minute change! The embargo for Assassin's Creed has been lifted here in Europe too. By chance I had already 2 videos uploaded, so here they are. At Ubisoft's request I'm not showing the real beginning of the game. If you know what happens, please don't spoil the surprise for the others! More videos, including from the PS3 version, and our impressions will follow later today and tomorrow.
Update: Third part available.
Update 2: Added a very short but still interesting video comparison of the 360 and PS3 versions. Thanks to TTP for the PS3 part :)
Update 3: Fourth and likely last video of the 360 version is up. Let me know if you want to see a video of what happens in the city.
Update 6: The PS3 video is back, this time with the right framerate. Again sorry about that.
Update 7: Since some people have claimed that the retail PS3 version ran far better than the review one, I went and bought it to make sure I didn't unfairly compare both versions. So I've done another comparison video, and you'll notice that the end result is still the same. I'm eagerly awaiting some people arguing that my PS3 is either broken, my capture hardware is buggy, or I've simply cheated the video so the 360 version looked better.
The first 10 Minutes (360) Part 1.5
The first 10 Minutes (360) Part 2
The first 10 minutes (360) part 3
PS3/360 comparison
Les 10 Premičres minutes: Partie 4
The first 10 minutes (PS3) (fixed)
The first 10 minutes (PS3) part 2
360/PS3 comparison, retail version
Since 510 Days
2007-11-14 18:27:12
Only just managed to watch this video. Before I go any further, I'll tell you I own a PS3. I did have 2 360's but they both died so I invested in Sony's machine. I have to say its pretty obvious to me from the comparison video that the ps3 version is clearly blipping. Watch the background of the city as the camera pans around the character, you can see if you watch right in the middle of the screen, that the ps3 version is blipping. Just before the character jumps, you can see V-sync issues on the tower for the ps3 version. Then there's the jump itself. You can see a noticable jerk halfway through the manouver on the ps3 side of things.
Shame, I was really looking forward to this game and will not now be able to enjoy it fully knowing that I'm playing the more gimped experience of the two.
So unless Blim states it may be something to do with the capturing software he uses that hinders the ps3 capture. I see no other conclusion than that gamespot have got it the wrong way around.
Judging by this vid, its clear that the ps3 verison is the inferior one.
I'm not bashing, flamebaiting, fanboy hating, or trying to offend in any way. I'm simply stating the obvious. If that upsets people, I'm sorry, but you're deluded.
Since 467 Days
2007-11-14 18:55:27
The Comparison is a bit too short to determine, but according to IGN, while in the early levels the PS3 version framerate is passable it gets really annoying in the later episodes whereas the Xbox 360 version does a good job through all the game.
Since 510 Days
2007-11-14 19:24:00
I think that Petrice Desilet (sp) fella has some explaining to do. He said in interviews that both versions would be identical.
He's clearly lying.....
Since 491 Days
2007-11-14 20:36:38
From what I have seen, it isn't even an issue of Contrast.
The dynamic range in lighting just looks shorter in PS3 games.
Since 936 Days
2007-11-14 21:15:48
The contrast thing doesn't bother me, HDTV's have different contrasts, and you can even change contrast in the game. I think the framerate issue could be like bioshock's. Some have horrible framerates sometimes, and others play it with butter smooth performance. I don't know what causes it, but I wouldn't put much value on those words saying the framerate is abysmal.
In the end, it only matters for those that have both consoles. Those that have either PS3 or Xbox 360 should just buy that version.
Since 433 Days
2007-11-14 22:05:46
The long PS3 video? I wasn't even aware Gamersyde had a PS3-only video of AC.
Since 433 Days
2007-11-14 22:13:23
What i don't like about that particular comparison video is that it's not really running concurrently. The versions are a bit off by a a sec or two and since the camera rotates counterclockwise of Altair, it would appear the PS3 has issues. If the camera were to rotate clockwise, then it'd appear the 360 has issues. Now unless the comparison between the two were running perfectly in sync.... but anyways, if you look closely to the 360 side, it also has some framerate problems, but doesn't seem to be as big as the PS3. Maybe you guys might want to do another recording run to see if that hiccup persists at that scene.
Since 383 Days
2007-11-15 02:16:23
I´ve just tested Assasin´s Creed 360 at different resolutions and that's what I got regarding Vsync:
1920x1080p = vsync issues
1280x720p = vsync issues
1280x1024 = NO VSYNC ISSUES
So obviously someone at Ubi screwed it. I didn´t looked for slowdowns or so in different resolutions, but at 1280x1024 there´s no vsync issues. Maybe they should release a patch or something.
Since 383 Days
2007-11-15 02:54:04
Looks beautiful. PS3 version is really mixed up at the moment, this shows bad frame rate at one part, and yet it looks a little sharper, and the colour is just a question of gamma, not the render... because that will be identical. I assume it's to differentiated between the two versions without a solid line.
Since 455 Days
2007-11-15 04:07:30
I'll wait a month for it to hit the bargain bin. Too busy with the greatest shooter of all time, COD4. And then we've got Mass Effect and Mario in a week. Dang...
Since 947 Days
2007-11-15 05:28:09
How can you explain this:
http://ruliwebimg.empas.com/data/news8/11m/15/ps3/...
http://ruliwebimg.empas.com/data/news8/11m/15/ps3/...
??
This game looks gorgeous on the PS3!! As good as the Xbox 360 version or even better!!
If you have any dobuts download the HD trailers and see for yourself...
Can somebody explain me why does the PS3 version look like this * here in Gamersyde?
* http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/7002/10...
Since 433 Days
2007-11-15 07:48:58
^ me no like the hay on the PS3. Then again, I'm not buying a game to stare at the hay. Not unless i'm a guinnea pig.
Since 1763 Days
2007-11-15 07:59:05
looks like there's a whole industry starting up around this mysterious "my (insert console name here)-dick is longer than yours!" ... gets less interesting by the second.
guys, back on your gamepads and just enjoy what you're getting, whatever console it's on!
Since 566 Days
2007-11-15 08:32:59
Thank you for the fixed PS3 video Blim! Now I think both versions look almost same in motion.
Since 1139 Days
2007-11-15 10:22:13
now what to say... your posting bad PS3 videos and pictures (now your even on n4g.com with your undersaturated PS3 pics) sorry blim, I love you but that one was just weak...
Since 937 Days
2007-11-15 11:14:41
The game wants to update my console when i put the disk in. Anyone knows why???
Since 382 Days
2007-11-15 11:47:54 In reply to McErono (2007-11-15 10:22:13)
Since 571 Days
2007-11-15 12:15:44 In reply to yumipooky (2007-11-15 07:48:58)
I have not much to add but the disappointment of my concluded experience of AC on the PS3. This game was a PS3 exclusive once! This led many to believe that eventually the PS3 version would look as good or better than the XBox 360 verion.
After getting my review copy on AC for the PS3 I dove right into it and tried to enjoy every moment of the game. I did enjoy the game and I still think it's a very remarkable game. Brilliantly crafted and executed! Please don't let the low scores deter you from buying the game. The experience I had with it was better than what I had with Halo 3 & COD 4. I don't have to write reviews just a quick impression on certain games that are part of our monthly sweepstakes. So I can take all my time and really enjoy every game that is send my way.
After finishing AC on the PS3 I had a few niggles about he framerate, screen-tearing and pop-in of textures. But these are simply minor quibbles when you consider how many things the game does so well!
And now you are asking yourself why did I start this post with a concluded experience that left me with a wry taste in my mouth.
This is because after finishing AC on the PS3 I was very curious how the same game would perform on the XBox 360. luckily we also give away xbox 360 games as part of our monthly sweepstakes. The instant I noticed that the Xbox 360 version of this game was running smoother and appeared better visually (color, contrast & lighting) my experience on the PS3 was instantly of a lesser grade than before.
I don't consider myself neither a Sony nor a Microsoft fanboy. I have both systems and really hope that these two awesome machines can keep on producing many more great games for our pleasure. It just upsets me to even realize that there are people out there that have spend a lot of money, given their support and still believing in the mighty Sony and in return they are still getting the lesser version the games. It must be frustrating for them! Many of those people payed the full price for Sony's machine only to see a hefty price cut a few month later. They didn't get any compensation either! But what can you do as a consumer? All you can do is hope that things do get better for the PS3.
I do put the blame on Ubisoft! You could have easily held off both versions of the game a few more months and iron out the creases. At least them everybody is happy when they come to the realization that both games are identical in how they perform! Over here in europe AC on the PS3 sells for 64,95. The Xbox 360 version sells for 59,95 and you also get a better performing game.
I do feel with the lot of you... it would surely help to punish the publishers if we could all afford both a PS3 and an Xbox 360 and simply buy the game that performs the best. This would make them loose sales to the point where they will have to make both games identical in how they perform.
Alas, this isn't the case nor a solution! The truth is what it is and that is that AC on the PS3 wasn't as great as I thought it was after playing the Xbox 360 version.
Tyrannosaurus
Since 1920 Days
2007-11-15 12:36:01 In reply to McErono (2007-11-15 10:22:13)
It's even funnier when you notice that the IGN comparison pictures look *exactly* the same as mine.
The only mistake we did is with the long PS3 video that had a framerate issue due to an error during the encoding. We promptly fixed that and apologized.
The comparison video is 100% valid, and was done as it should have been done.
Ha well, you pissed me off, hopefully a one week vacation will make you understand that we have nothing to win in the long term by putting the PS3 in a bad light.
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BlimBlim, Tyran.
Since 1061 Days
2007-11-15 13:32:52 In reply to Auna (2007-11-15 02:16:23)
1920x1080p = vsync issues
1280x720p = vsync issues
1280x1024 = NO VSYNC ISSUES
So obviously someone at Ubi screwed it. I didn´t looked for slowdowns or so in different resolutions, but at 1280x1024 there´s no vsync issues. Maybe they should release a patch or something.
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Marumaro for the WIN !!
Since 394 Days
2007-11-15 13:39:54
Some offscreen ps3 pics *not mine btw*:
http://i5.tinypic.com/8eapwyw.jpg
http://i8.tinypic.com/6xjuqe8.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/6lb35z5.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/85vd3eq.jpg
I think people forget that the screens you find on the net are not representative for how they look on your hdtv.They just give you a fairly good idea of how the game looks like, and should be interpreted like that, weither its PS3, 360 or Wii.
Not saying these pics are representative for how it looks, they're not taken under ideal circumstances it seems, but they do paint another picture (atleast imo).
What does confuse me is these conflicting messages on wich version has the better performance.I dont see no reason why Cheboury would lie about his impressions, but then again i dont see why GS and some other sites would say the complete opposite.Who to believe? :/
Since 535 Days
2007-11-15 13:40:48
Well, I think it's not the fault of the PS3 that AC looks worse on it. Ubisoft is the one to blame. Proof: Look at Oblivion, that looks superb on PS3. Runs smoother, has better textures and loadings are shorter than on any other system!!!!! So, it's the know how on programming for PS3!!!! I'm dissapointed. Really dissapointed.
Since 571 Days
2007-11-15 14:21:32 In reply to Hrimthur (2007-11-15 13:40:48)
1. Better framerate.
2. Shorter loading times.
However, visually the Xbox 360 still looks better with greater texture depth than the PS3. The PS3 version also seems to be missing some trees, grass patches, shrubs etc. Also aliasing is more apparent on the ps3.
PS3 really benefits from an overal lack of dynamic lighting and how the shadows are filtered. This probably results in better overall performance.
But to be honest... I'd rather play the PS3 than Xbox 360, which had terrible loading times and bad framerate.
Since 639 Days
2007-11-15 14:28:18
The reviews for this game are so stupid, they are completely subjective to the reviewers opinion, they are supposed to be objective. I have nearly completed the game and can say that the only 2 reviews that are justified are IGN AU Review and the gametrailers review. IGNORE THE IGN UK AND US REVIEWS, TRUST ME!
Since 535 Days
2007-11-15 15:04:34 In reply to Cheboury (2007-11-15 14:21:32)
1. Better framerate.
2. Shorter loading times.
However, visually the Xbox 360 still looks better with greater texture depth than the PS3. The PS3 version also seems to be missing some trees, grass patches, shrubs etc. Also aliasing is more apparent on the ps3.
PS3 really benefits from an overal lack of dynamic lighting and how the shadows are filtered. This probably results in better overall performance.
But to be honest... I'd rather play the PS3 than Xbox 360, which had terrible loading times and bad framerate.
Hm, however, I lost interests in AC, just looking forward to Uncharted ^^