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Ubisoft has announced that a demo for Haze on PSN will be released in "early May", while the game itself will hit the stores on the 23rd same month. The demo will feature 4 player drop-in drop-out co-op from the single-player campaign, and we got one image inside.

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superchunk
superchunk
Commented on 2008-04-17 00:01:46 In reply to Jigen
Posted by Jigen
I still don't see what people like in Gear's visuals...

I've never seen a decent argument of why Gears looks good, I think PDZ looks way better if only for the nice parallax mapping effects and lighting. Gear's graphics looks just as rushed to me.

[edit : oh, and as long as we're talking about third person shooters too, Lost Planet and Uncharted look way better than Gears to me too.]
Wow.... I mean... just wow. Really? I'm not sure there's anything to say to this. I guess that's you're opinion; and you are very entitled to it. By most accounts in the industry Gears and UE3 are seen as the standard for in-game graphics.

I'm inclined to agree with you (to some degree) in terms of art style, and art direction, but that's a differnent matter. That has more to do with the execution of the designer's artistic vision. In that respect, I tend to think Lost Odyssey is one of the games to look at; as I'm not a big fan of the ultra hulked-out macho characters in GOW. But again that's more art direction thing.

But PDZ? Not a chance.
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Jigen
Jigen
Commented on 2008-04-17 00:12:48 In reply to GriftGFX
Posted by GriftGFX
.. I've heard it all now.
You have a differing opinion on it? Care to explain why you think Gears looks good?
Posted by superchunk
Wow.... I mean... just wow. Really? I'm not sure there's anything to say to this. I guess that's you're opinion; and you are very entitled to it. By most accounts in the industry Gears and UE3 are seen as the standard for in-game graphics.

I'm inclined to agree with you (to some degree) in terms of art style, and art direction, but that's a differnent matter. That has more to do with the execution of the designer's artistic vision. In that respect, I tend to think Lost Odyssey is one of the games to look at; as I'm not a big fan of the ultra hulked-out macho characters in GOW. But again that's more art direction thing.

But PDZ? Not a chance.
By accounts of whom? UE3 is a standard in game engines, but I only ever heard people call Gears the standard in graphics when it came out, and even then those who said it were mistaken, IMO.

I don't know what's 'wrong' with UE3 development, but I do feel there's something messed up there. Lost Odyssey is a better looking game than Gears to me, but it also has the same 'look' as do tons of other UE3 games. I've heard others express this as glowing textures and ugly bloom.

What's wrong with PDZ's look? It has higher resolution textures with parallax mapping, it has much nicer lighting and HDR, the motion blur is about comparable. The character modeling in PDZ is much worse, it was very sloppy. Animation and ragdolls are horrible in both games. Special effects are generally a little better in PDZ as well IMO. Neither game have really impressive shadows, but I'd probably give that to Gears if I had to choose. Also as far as art alone, I think PDZ is much nicer with colorful levels.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Commented on 2008-04-17 00:21:00 In reply to Jigen
Posted by Jigen
You have a differing opinion on it? Care to explain why you think Gears looks good?
No, I don't particularly care to. That's like asking me if I care to explain to you why I think the sky is blue.
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Jigen
Jigen
Commented on 2008-04-17 00:26:40 In reply to GriftGFX
Posted by GriftGFX
No, I don't particularly care to. That's like asking me if I care to explain to you why I think the sky is blue.
Well that's just stupid. If you don't want to back up your opinion, then don't comment at all. I took the time to write out why Gears isn't that great looking, and I'm thinking the reason noone wants to respond seriously is because they either haven't played many other games, or they can't put it into words because their reason for liking the game isn't based upon reality. It's like how a Sonic fanboy might like Sonic for 360.

Seriously, it's as dumb as anyone who comments on a game saying 'it sux'. If you have an opinion, but you don't know why, then don't blurt it out like a fool.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Commented on 2008-04-17 00:31:41
Okay, I'll try: It's blue, because when I look out my window, that's what I see with my own two eyes. Phew..

I mean come on, you think PDZ looks better.. what's the point in arguing with that?
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Jigen
Jigen
Commented on 2008-04-17 00:33:12 In reply to GriftGFX
Posted by GriftGFX
Okay, I'll try: It's blue, because when I look out my window, that's what I see with my own two eyes. Phew..

I mean come on, you think PDZ looks better.. what's the point in arguing with that?
So basically Gears has great graphics : "Becauz I sez so". Thanks very much, I think we're done here. You don't have any valid points to make and I don't feel like wasting my time on someone that doesn't want to debate the actual games but debate debating.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Commented on 2008-04-17 00:36:01
Who said I was trying to debate anything with you? I can quite readily disagree with you without having to prove a single damn thing. Others have already gone head to head with you on this (ridiculous) issue, and you just keep repeating the same cyclical "points" anyway.
By accounts of whom?
Tons of people who clearly aren't you.
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Jigen
Jigen
Commented on 2008-04-17 00:44:52 In reply to GriftGFX
Posted by GriftGFX
Who said I was trying to debate anything with you? I can quite readily disagree with you without having to prove a single damn thing. Others have already gone head to head with you on this (ridiculous) issue, and you just keep repeating the same cyclical "points" anyway.
By accounts of whom?
Tons of people who clearly aren't you.
Oh, my mistake, I thought that's how discussion worked. You're more than allowed to enjoy your grey glowing textures, and you can disagree with me. However if you want your disagreement to hold any weight you'll say more than 'you're wrong'. When has anyone anywhere ever gone 'head to head' with me about Gear's graphics? I'm pretty sure I've never gotten anyone to respond to such inquiries, and they usually go the route you did, derailing any discussion by debating the need to bring up any points.

I've made my points, you've made none. I have heard people say they liked Gear's graphics, I don't deny some people do. However, I was asking him because he mentioned people 'inside the industry', I wasn't referring to forum denizens.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Commented on 2008-04-17 01:07:23
Well then naturally you must be right, and PDZ must be a better looking game than Gears of War, which is actually on the ass end of the graphics spectrum. And in other news, the sky is actually sort of a little purple right now, so maybe we were all wrong.

Oh, and we're not simply talking about "forum denizens"--go read a review or two or four or ten and you'll see quite clearly that the critical reception of GOW's visuals are pretty high across the board. Those suckers obviously haven't played PDZ yet though, so they don't know what good graphics really are.
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Trup1aya4rea1
Trup1aya4rea1
Commented on 2008-04-17 01:10:34
When gears of war came out, gamers, critics, and industry insiders, and game developers all but agreed that it was the one of best looking games on any console. Just because people can't spew the names of the graphical techniques Epic used to create it's visual masterpiece doesn't mean it wasn't impressive.

fuck parallax-mapping, PDZ isn't nearly as impressive to the eye as Gears. now if you would have said Assassins Creed...
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Jigen
Jigen
Commented on 2008-04-17 01:12:05 In reply to GriftGFX
Posted by GriftGFX
Well then naturally you must be right, and PDZ must be a better looking game than Gears of War, which is actually on the ass end of the graphics spectrum. And in other news, the sky is actually sort of a little purple right now, so maybe we were all wrong.

Oh, and we're not simply talking about "forum denizens"--go read a review or two or four or ten and you'll see quite clearly that the critical reception of GOW's visuals are pretty high across the board. Those suckers obviously haven't played PDZ yet though, so they don't know what good graphics really are.
You're really cute, you know that? Do you have some disease where you can't debate the subject at hand? Seriously, you're just trolling now. You haven't even touched on the points I made...

So the games media then? I don't really put much faith in their opinions. It's a completely different matter, but I do feel the games media is completely corrupt and incompetent. You can take that however you will, and I'm sure you have some cute little trolly response to make.

I'm stepping out now, maybe you should take a trip over to 4chan or something, I hear they appreciate people like you there.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Commented on 2008-04-17 01:31:26
I'm not sure where this assumption comes from that other people need to prove that you're wrong here (or like, ever) in order to disagree with you. You're arguing against popular opinion, and you don't seem to get that. Okay--so my comments about the sky being blue may have been a little provocative, but the point is pretty simple: We (yes we) think that Gears of War has good graphics because that's what we see when we look at it.. it really is that simple.

Is it technically the most compelling title out there? Maybe not.. but it's got solid art direction (really) and some pretty nice eye candy.
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Jigen
Jigen
Commented on 2008-04-17 01:41:27 In reply to GriftGFX
Posted by GriftGFX
I'm not sure where this assumption comes from that other people need to prove that you're wrong here (or like, ever) in order to disagree with you. You're arguing against popular opinion, and you don't seem to get that. Okay--so my comments about the sky being blue may have been a little provocative, but the point is pretty simple: We (yes we) think that Gears of War has good graphics because that's what we see when we look at it.. it really is that simple.

Is it technically the most compelling title out there? Maybe not.. but it's got solid art direction (really) and some pretty nice eye candy.
I thank you for becoming more civil. It's fine if people disagree, but to say someone is flat out wrong without any backup is another thing. What might have been good is saying, "I don't think you're right about Gears, I just like the way it looks better." I don't think 'popular opinion' should have anything to do with it, popular doesn't mean good.

As far as discussion, I think I can see why some people like Gears over say, PDZ. PDZ is very flashy, and it's not very realistic. Gears has a very down to earth style, and if you think the thick armor style is cool, that's OK too. Going all the way back to Haze, I can understand why people might like this even if it is bad technically or most people disagree.

I was just trying to argue the technical things because those things are mostly 'solid', in that it would be an objective assessment instead of subjective.
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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Commented on 2008-04-17 03:04:17
@Jigen,
To say the animations are horrible specially in cutscenes, it makes me go super WTF specially when you say PDZ looks better.

Textures looking flat is not explaining anything. Glowing textures by then defending PDZ is just ironic as hell. In PDZ wood glows, rubber glows, skin glows, metal blinds and light kills.

Character models look pathetic in PDZ, that's one of the game's lowest points in terms of graphics (textures being the highest). And framerate is worst than Gears EASILY.

But yeah, if you think that the huge majority of worthwhile reviews, most people, and myself are wrong and PDZ not only looks better, but there's nothing special about gears' graphics, what the hell is the point in discussing with you? Where's the room for debate?

If it is a joke you can still come out and say it.

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Jigen
Jigen
Commented on 2008-04-17 03:28:47 In reply to LEBATO
Posted by LEBATO
@Jigen,
To say the animations are horrible specially in cutscenes, it makes me go super WTF specially when you say PDZ looks better.

Textures looking flat is not explaining anything. Glowing textures by then defending PDZ is just ironic as hell. In PDZ wood glows, rubber glows, skin glows, metal blinds and light kills.

Character models look pathetic in PDZ, that's one of the game's lowest points in terms of graphics (textures being the highest). And framerate is worst than Gears EASILY.

But yeah, if you think that the huge majority of worthwhile reviews, most people, and myself are wrong and PDZ not only looks better, but there's nothing special about gears' graphics, what the hell is the point in discussing with you? Where's the room for debate?

If it is a joke you can still come out and say it.
I said that PDZ and Gears have equally horrible animation in cutscenes.

I personally can't explain why Gear's textures look flat to me, not enough dynamic lights maybe, all I can figure. I agree some places in PDZ have bad art too, like lights put out in places without the sources (geometric sources like lamps or torches for example), I think this and the animations are good evidence that both games were rushed.

I agree on the character models in PDZ, and I agree that's one of the game's lowest points, but I don't agree that the FPS is worse in PDZ. Gears chugs in many levels with just a simple left trigger zoom, and some of the cutscenes have to be hitting around 15fps...

By why does everyone feel the need to drop down to sarcastic 'wit'? I could say "Yea, I suppose the majority is always right, I'll go listen to some Brittany Spears and play some Wii Sports while eating a cheeseburger."

What's special about Gear's graphics? THAT'S the very thing I was asking. I don't see anything specific. I can agree that to some the overall impression might be good, and I can understand preferences of art design and such. But you are arguing the specifics. I brought up PDZ because it's a game I consider not great looking, but still better than Gears! Do you admit that PDZ has generally nicer looking textures? Do you agree the HDR effects are nice? Do you agree that the lighting effects are often pretty good?

So really, come out and say what aspects of Gear's graphics (technically) you think are good. I welcome anything like that with open arms, because maybe I'd finally understand the majority better.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Commented on 2008-04-17 03:58:24
Hey now, back off the cheeseburgers.
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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Commented on 2008-04-17 04:38:49 In reply to Jigen
Posted by Jigen
I said that PDZ and Gears have equally horrible animation in cutscenes.
No you didn't, where?
I personally can't explain why Gear's textures look flat to me, not enough dynamic lights maybe, all I can figure.
Whoa now, first you say that people can't come up with reason on why Gears looks awesome, but you can say textures look flat, whatever the hell that means.
I agree some places in PDZ have bad art too, like lights put out in places without the sources (geometric sources like lamps or torches for example), I think this and the animations are good evidence that both games were rushed.
:| WTF
I agree on the character models in PDZ, and I agree that's one of the game's lowest points, but I don't agree that the FPS is worse in PDZ. Gears chugs in many levels with just a simple left trigger zoom, and some of the cutscenes have to be hitting around 15fps...
No.
By why does everyone feel the need to drop down to sarcastic 'wit'? I could say "Yea, I suppose the majority is always right, I'll go listen to some Brittany Spears and play some Wii Sports while eating a cheeseburger."
No again, and that is how we roll here, lol. The majority is not always right, but it seems like that's your best point, which if you look at what the majority is saying, well........the majority are right on this one.
What's special about Gear's graphics? THAT'S the very thing I was asking. I don't see anything specific. I can agree that to some the overall impression might be good, and I can understand preferences of art design and such. But you are arguing the specifics.
I'm not going to waste my time answering that. You can pick a random review and that will answer your question. Go read gamespot or IGN, etc etc. I'm not saying the game looks perfect or that the framerate is always smooth, but the fact is the game is one of the most amazing looking games still out there, and many agree that (now this is opinion) it is the best looking console game thus far.

For you to come in here and say that "I've never seen a decent argument of why Gears looks good" is just outright denial and yet another sign that although you want to debate, there is really nothing to debate with those lines.

What exactly are you expecting, tell me what would convince you?
I brought up PDZ because it's a game I consider not great looking, but still better than Gears! Do you admit that PDZ has generally nicer looking textures?
Maybe, I could go with yes with that if my memory serves me right.
Do you agree the HDR effects are nice?
No.
Do you agree that the lighting effects are often pretty good?
No they are sporadically good, they are exaggerated, overdone, too shiny, and applies to everything on the environment the same way.
So really, come out and say what aspects of Gear's graphics (technically) you think are good. I welcome anything like that with open arms, because maybe I'd finally understand the majority better.
Gamespot, IGN, Gamespy. Go to gamerankings, pick a random review and read the graphics section.
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Trebby
Trebby
Commented on 2008-04-17 15:04:45
i hope this won't be yet another disappointing FPS which only focuses on graphics, kind of like PDZ.
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purbeast
purbeast
Commented on 2008-04-17 16:19:56
lol @ PDZ looking better than GoW!

thanks for making me laugh early in the morning.
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daikide
daikide
Commented on 2008-04-17 16:56:14
Well I'm still a bit skeptical, but I hope I'm wrong. Also in the post COD4 FPS world we need something really kick ass to wow gamers.
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Jigen
Jigen
Commented on 2008-04-17 18:30:26
Jesus, stupid offensive people that don't even read my posts... LEBATO learn to read you dumb piece of shit... purbeast learn to STFU.

Honestly, if you people don't respect me, I won't return the favor you fucking tools.
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superchunk
superchunk
Commented on 2008-04-18 00:31:42 In reply to GriftGFX
Posted by Jigen
Jesus, stupid offensive people that don't even read my posts... LEBATO learn to read you dumb piece of shit... purbeast learn to STFU.

Honestly, if you people don't respect me, I won't return the favor you fucking tools.
That's totally unnecessary man.

Unprovoked, you began a discussion/debate in which to proceeded to argue against 95% of the gaming media; and I suspect, an equally large percentage of average gamers. You can only expect to get a large amount of "WTF".

I totally appreciate your opinion, but understand that your argument is only backed up by YOUR own personal preferences and tastes. A preference that goes against that 95% of the masses that I mentioned. (If you don't believe me, metacritic and gamerankings are a good source.) Because of that fact, It can make it very difficult to have a conversation with you.

I agree that the sarcasm from some of us isn't the best way to go.
Posted by GriftGFX
Okay, I'll try: [why is the sky blue?] It's blue, because when I look out my window, that's what I see with my own two eyes. Phew..
The sky is blue because of dipole scattering... and if you look out of the window at night it's black (or deep purple if you prefer).

Anyway, please don't take our comments so to heart. If you pick a fight with a dog over whether ant's are bigger than elephants, or with gamers over whether PDZ looks better than Gears, the results are the same... you may get bit.
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LEBATO - IS WRONG
LEBATO
Commented on 2008-04-18 07:32:49
LOL, I just laughed out loud (yes, twice). That guy is irony itself, and a comedian at the same time!
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