Commented on 2008-07-18 20:11:14 In reply to bleachedsmiles
Posted by bleachedsmiles
Actually the reason why the wii's winning the console wars this generation, and why microsoft and sony are starting to adjust their own marketing and developement, is because the wii has a different market to the 360 and ps3.
Also... did you or did you not say that Dead rising on the 360 was better because it has superior graphics? It is better visualy (which was never argued) but the better game? This was the only point in your waffling stupidity i picked you up on.. cause frankly its a foolish statement about a game you've only seen a few dodgy screen shots of and have no idea how it plays on the wii.
Now begone with your stupity!
Begone with MY stupidity? You don't even know how the fucking gaming market works and you call ME stupid? The Wii is in the 7th generation console market, it's competitors ARE IN FACT Sony and MS. If you weren't a chimp you would've done a quick search and found that out by yourself.
And that graphics thing just proves my point, why can't I speculate that the 360 will be better because of superior graphics, but you and that jhohannes guy and all the other pretentious pinheads CAN say that the wii version will be better because of motion control. Double standards at it's finest.
why don't you lurk a bit moar than just 65 days instead of coming here, insulting people who are having CLEAN and RESPECTFUL debates and sounding like a complete jackass...what a fucking joke, don't expect me to take any of your posts seriously...
When the Wii version of this game comes out, and presented to wii60 owners that have not played the game yet, they will compare both based on Graphics, and controls regardless of console market theory.
You guys know ApollyCreed is right. Right? Every multiplatform port I see. The Wii version is excused from having shittier graphics because you know "the Wii wasn't aiming for graphics." I say fuck that. If they made that choice they gotta suffer the consequences. Just like how Microsoft made the choice of not going for motion control or Blu-ray/HD-DVD for games. People can complain about the 360 for that. But why can't people complain about the Wii's shitty graphical power.
So in conclusion Dead Rising on the Wii looks like shit. And in my opinion based on my own taste, Capcom will have to bust their ass to make the controls for this game equal or better than the 360 version. Because judging from all the multiplatform games that came out before the 360/PS3 controls were better and less of a pain to use and memorize, but that's just my opinion on the control. Maybe you guys thought it was better on the Wii. I just don't like waggling and slashing everytime I want to punch or do an action. Some examples of these games includes: Bully, Harry Potter, Spider-man 3, Iron Man. Granted some of these games already sucked, it sucked even more because of the Wii's control. Then you factor in the 360/PS3's superior graphics and if I get to pick between which version to get. I'd pick the 360 or PS3 version everytime.
And before you guys start bashing and claiming I'm a 360 fanboy. I own the Wii (stood in line overnight for it day one) and I own the 360. Only the Wii's first party games could make good use of the control. But it loses some of it's credibility when you realize Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Kart Wii plays better on the Gamecube controller.
Cutscene graphics look WAY too similar to the 360 version. Either they're pre-rendered or the Wii is capable of much more than people give it credit for. I'm gonna say the former though =p
But what surprises me most is that the Wii gets a port but not the PS3. That's just plain wrong. Not like the game is THAT great that it must be played by all, but still.
Commented on 2008-07-18 23:05:02 In reply to broman
Posted by broman
Cutscene graphics look WAY too similar to the 360 version. Either they're pre-rendered or the Wii is capable of much more than people give it credit for. I'm gonna say the former though =p
But what surprises me most is that the Wii gets a port but not the PS3. That's just plain wrong. Not like the game is THAT great that it must be played by all, but still.
All this.
Only that, you're PLAIN WRONG. IT IS one of the best cult games of this generation alone. Not a popular or a "all people can get it" type of game, but sayin' that it isn't "all that great" because you're on that group that can't appreciate its thing, is just wrong.
Now,
I'm not sayin' that the wii can't acheive some nice looking cutscenes, but those are too similar to the 360 in textures and geometry, probably the same.
Then we have those low-poly in-game models and jaggy screens. So till they prove me wrong, i'll assume those aren't In-Game Cutscenes running from the Wii engine.
The cut scenes are movies... nothing more. filmed and pasted.
As for people praising the Wii controls, who doesnt love stroking a stick.. enjoy.
Nintendo was smart because it created a machine for non gamers, which consists most of the population, thus bigger market. They're also smart because their device uses old components, so its CHEAP... a PS2 costs 100 bux nowdays, so wii for 250, nintendo are pure genious.
Of course as non gamers start learning to play games, they will go for a PS3 or X360 so they can play some more advanced and bigger budget games.
Everyone wins, heck my dad keeps asking when ill buy a Wii... so for non gamers Wii looks simple and easy, and doesnt hurt their egos cos they couldnt handle a gamepad.
Commented on 2008-07-18 23:41:00 In reply to ApolloCreed
Posted by ApolloCreed
And that graphics thing just proves my point, why can't I speculate that the 360 will be better because of superior graphics, but you and that jhohannes guy and all the other pretentious pinheads CAN say that the wii version will be better because of motion control. Double standards at it's finest.
No no, you see, thats the difference between you and i, i havent embarrised myself by saying which version of the game is better when one of those versions not only isnt even out..but hasnt even released GAMEPLAY footage yet.
Instead you've made a consistant fool of yourself by telling us the 360 version is better as FACT simply because it looks better. I dont even own a wii.. infact i own a 360, and would even consider myself a 360 fanboy.. but that doesnt mean i'll throw around ignorance like your good self for the sake of it.
This game got a lot of praise on the 360. Saying it didn't get praise is foolish
The Wii gives you a new way to play this game, and frankly won't be the same game anymore with a wii-mote in your hand
Posted by Schmooboo
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It's also for people who have 3 physical friends to play with, giving you more 4 player options than any other system
Commented on 2008-07-19 22:54:17 In reply to Tinks
Posted by Tinks
This game got a lot of praise on the 360. Saying it didn't get praise is foolish
The Wii gives you a new way to play this game, and frankly won't be the same game anymore with a wii-mote in your hand
Its a great game, who said it didnt get praise on the 360? wii owners should be in for a treat.
Commented on 2008-07-20 15:27:33 In reply to Tinks
[quote=Tinks]This game got a lot of praise on the 360. Saying it didn't get praise is foolish
The Wii gives you a new way to play this game, and frankly won't be the same game anymore with a wii-mote in your hand
jeah, waving you hand like a person on fire realy changes the experience.
i have a xbox and a wii and tomorrow finaly a ps3.
but if i had to choose between a better looking game with normal controls or a inovative(wich today means lets make thing different inn a bad way)and poor graphics..........
i enyoed super smash bross a hundred times more then red steel or any other gimmicky wii game.
and you know why ,because it worked well and dident need the so called inovative controlls.
zelda ,mario,metroid,super,resident evil 4,where the only good games plus that they just looked good(wii whise).
so it will be the same game except that the graphics are worse and the shooting(capcom did a great jov on re4 for the wii) will be better ,but the rest will be waving your hand or maybe some standard up down and forward backwards motion.
@ApolloCreed, from what I had energy to read (one or two thirds...) totally agreed. People owning a Wii do have double standards.. "Yeah, it doesn't look as good, but that's because Wii is an intelligent system with revolutionary controls". This is when I say "It's a freaking gimmick and you feel like an idiot wawing that stick around".
I'd say the x360 version is by far the better version based on these screenshots, cause what do we have here? VISUALS. Not gameplay, we can't try that. We have screenshots and the 360 version looks so much better.
In my opinion the game is crap. On every platform.
And yes, Wii is a household console, competing with 360 and PS3. DS is a handheld. If Nintendo says Wii is in a different market and has no competitors, that's propaganda. After all PS3 is a multimedia computer that will replace PCs. And it has no competitors. And emotion engine(yeah I know, ps2)... and KZ2 and and... And yes the 360 has it's own propaganda too....
Commented on 2008-07-21 10:06:30 In reply to bleachedsmiles
Posted by bleachedsmiles
Actually the reason why the wii's winning the console wars this generation, and why microsoft and sony are starting to adjust their own marketing and developement, is because the wii has a different market to the 360 and ps3.
In this I fear you are right. Oh well, there still is the pc to fall back on and wait until this casual crap goes the way of the dodo.
Commented on 2008-07-23 19:09:32 In reply to bakatrinh
Posted by bakatrinh
The Wii version is excused from having shittier graphics because you know "the Wii wasn't aiming for graphics." I say fuck that. If they made that choice they gotta suffer the consequences.
Consequences? You mean like ranting fanboys? I can see that.
Dead Rising for the Wii? That gives Capcom a great opportunity to make one of the most awkward handling games even more awkward! They seem to be very fond of that whole "let's make our games as frustrating and annoying as possible" thing they've got going on.
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Commented on 2008-07-18 20:11:14 In reply to bleachedsmilesAlso... did you or did you not say that Dead rising on the 360 was better because it has superior graphics? It is better visualy (which was never argued) but the better game? This was the only point in your waffling stupidity i picked you up on.. cause frankly its a foolish statement about a game you've only seen a few dodgy screen shots of and have no idea how it plays on the wii.
Now begone with your stupity!
And that graphics thing just proves my point, why can't I speculate that the 360 will be better because of superior graphics, but you and that jhohannes guy and all the other pretentious pinheads CAN say that the wii version will be better because of motion control. Double standards at it's finest.
why don't you lurk a bit moar than just 65 days instead of coming here, insulting people who are having CLEAN and RESPECTFUL debates and sounding like a complete jackass...what a fucking joke, don't expect me to take any of your posts seriously...
Commented on 2008-07-18 21:25:01
Commented on 2008-07-18 21:26:07So in conclusion Dead Rising on the Wii looks like shit. And in my opinion based on my own taste, Capcom will have to bust their ass to make the controls for this game equal or better than the 360 version. Because judging from all the multiplatform games that came out before the 360/PS3 controls were better and less of a pain to use and memorize, but that's just my opinion on the control. Maybe you guys thought it was better on the Wii. I just don't like waggling and slashing everytime I want to punch or do an action. Some examples of these games includes: Bully, Harry Potter, Spider-man 3, Iron Man. Granted some of these games already sucked, it sucked even more because of the Wii's control. Then you factor in the 360/PS3's superior graphics and if I get to pick between which version to get. I'd pick the 360 or PS3 version everytime.
And before you guys start bashing and claiming I'm a 360 fanboy. I own the Wii (stood in line overnight for it day one) and I own the 360. Only the Wii's first party games could make good use of the control. But it loses some of it's credibility when you realize Smash Bros. Brawl and Mario Kart Wii plays better on the Gamecube controller.
Commented on 2008-07-18 22:09:28But what surprises me most is that the Wii gets a port but not the PS3. That's just plain wrong. Not like the game is THAT great that it must be played by all, but still.
Commented on 2008-07-18 23:05:02 In reply to bromanBut what surprises me most is that the Wii gets a port but not the PS3. That's just plain wrong. Not like the game is THAT great that it must be played by all, but still.
Only that, you're PLAIN WRONG. IT IS one of the best cult games of this generation alone. Not a popular or a "all people can get it" type of game, but sayin' that it isn't "all that great" because you're on that group that can't appreciate its thing, is just wrong.
Now,
I'm not sayin' that the wii can't acheive some nice looking cutscenes, but those are too similar to the 360 in textures and geometry, probably the same.
Then we have those low-poly in-game models and jaggy screens. So till they prove me wrong, i'll assume those aren't In-Game Cutscenes running from the Wii engine.
Commented on 2008-07-18 23:10:02As for people praising the Wii controls, who doesnt love stroking a stick.. enjoy.
Nintendo was smart because it created a machine for non gamers, which consists most of the population, thus bigger market. They're also smart because their device uses old components, so its CHEAP... a PS2 costs 100 bux nowdays, so wii for 250, nintendo are pure genious.
Of course as non gamers start learning to play games, they will go for a PS3 or X360 so they can play some more advanced and bigger budget games.
Everyone wins, heck my dad keeps asking when ill buy a Wii... so for non gamers Wii looks simple and easy, and doesnt hurt their egos cos they couldnt handle a gamepad.
Commented on 2008-07-18 23:13:15 In reply to SchmoobooI keep telling them "Buy your own stuff, cheap ass!"
Commented on 2008-07-18 23:24:33
Commented on 2008-07-18 23:41:00 In reply to ApolloCreedInstead you've made a consistant fool of yourself by telling us the 360 version is better as FACT simply because it looks better. I dont even own a wii.. infact i own a 360, and would even consider myself a 360 fanboy.. but that doesnt mean i'll throw around ignorance like your good self for the sake of it.
Commented on 2008-07-19 22:49:07The Wii gives you a new way to play this game, and frankly won't be the same game anymore with a wii-mote in your hand
Commented on 2008-07-19 22:54:17 In reply to TinksThe Wii gives you a new way to play this game, and frankly won't be the same game anymore with a wii-mote in your hand
Commented on 2008-07-20 15:27:33 In reply to TinksThe Wii gives you a new way to play this game, and frankly won't be the same game anymore with a wii-mote in your hand
jeah, waving you hand like a person on fire realy changes the experience.
i have a xbox and a wii and tomorrow finaly a ps3.
but if i had to choose between a better looking game with normal controls or a inovative(wich today means lets make thing different inn a bad way)and poor graphics..........
i enyoed super smash bross a hundred times more then red steel or any other gimmicky wii game.
and you know why ,because it worked well and dident need the so called inovative controlls.
zelda ,mario,metroid,super,resident evil 4,where the only good games plus that they just looked good(wii whise).
so it will be the same game except that the graphics are worse and the shooting(capcom did a great jov on re4 for the wii) will be better ,but the rest will be waving your hand or maybe some standard up down and forward backwards motion.
Commented on 2008-07-20 21:23:31I'd say the x360 version is by far the better version based on these screenshots, cause what do we have here? VISUALS. Not gameplay, we can't try that. We have screenshots and the 360 version looks so much better.
In my opinion the game is crap. On every platform.
And yes, Wii is a household console, competing with 360 and PS3. DS is a handheld. If Nintendo says Wii is in a different market and has no competitors, that's propaganda. After all PS3 is a multimedia computer that will replace PCs. And it has no competitors. And emotion engine(yeah I know, ps2)... and KZ2 and and... And yes the 360 has it's own propaganda too....
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Commented on 2008-07-24 13:34:11 In reply to marioman50But it looks good for wii. :)