Combat in SW The Force Unleashed 2

Commented on 2010-09-10 00:17:48

game looks incredible!! very interested in it after watching this

the first one was a joke though, i think its available on steam but its like 30 GB!!! LOLOLOL

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Sath

Commented on 2010-09-10 00:41:33

The first game was good, but thats it.

The game has tons of potential for sure, I am glad they reinvented the combat for this one, Starkiller is much more faster this time around, has more stylish combat because of 2 lightsabers, more combo variations...etc.
However one thing that bothers me is the lack of lightsaber styles.

Why cant they add lightsaber staff, tonfas, single handed lightsaber...etc. different styles, it would be so great.

Anyways, from what I seen I really like it.
Though the game still have that shitty recovery animation were if you get hit and you are down the enemy can still hit you.

Graphically, looks great, love the lightning and rain effects.

Hopefully on PC it wont be shit like the first one, they didnt fix the bugs and the size was crazy huge.

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SangHee

Commented on 2010-09-10 00:58:05

I liked that there were extras like costumes and saber (or sabre for some :P ) customization. But once that was done there was nothing to really play around with. Maybe if the lightsaber was more useful than the force it would be more interesting. I'd like them to make something in the game that would make it fun even on replay. But I guess it will end up like finish once and it's over.

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Ronsauce

Commented on 2010-09-10 01:24:40

Man, they need to let someone else talk in these videos. "Charged up like a cannon ball?" lolwut?

And the whole mind-control suicide/bomb thing is weak.

Really polished melee combat is what this game needs to shine.

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IRAIPT0IR

Commented on 2010-09-10 01:31:09

I still think the combat looks off,something about it looks way off to me.

Need some impressions first on how the hit detection is and how punchy the combat feels.

First one was awfull in that department,I still liked it but damn it I wanted it to be awesome.

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spacemanjupiter

Commented on 2010-09-10 02:01:11

Wow, I'm almost shocked at the difference in quality here from the first one. The first one is good, but this looks like a pretty good leap ahead and a worthy sequel for sure. I can't wait long for this. This is going to be incredible on my PC

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foda500

Commented on 2010-09-10 03:04:08 In reply to spacemanjupiter

Posted by spacemanjupiter

Wow, I'm almost shocked at the difference in quality here from the first one. The first one is good, but this looks like a pretty good leap ahead and a worthy sequel for sure. I can't wait long for this. This is going to be incredible on my PC

Don't get your hopes up the PC version of the first game was AWFUL.

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michaelob

Commented on 2010-09-10 04:14:41

Not really seeing the huge leap forward everyone else is talking about here. It does look better than the first one, but that was one of the most disappointing games ever. Mix the Star Wars license with the best gaming tech around (Euphoria and DMM): how could it not be great? Poor graphics, weak linear level designs, lack of implementation of physics, poor AI, crappy combat, and making light sabers weak as hell is a good start. None of those things really looks improved here, just fancy new over the top powers.

WTF, even in the new video, it looks to take like 10 lightsaber hits to knock out a storm trooper. Those things should be sending limbs flying everywhere! I didn't see any of the "dismemberment" in that video at all. Then again, it will probably end up being part of a scripted QTE anyway.

Maybe it's just me, but a bad@ss Star Wars character should be all about the lightsabers. The force powers are cool in small moderation, but I don't want to be flying around shooting crumpled up AT-AT's charged with "canonball" like powers at stormtroopers while simultaneously juggling and electro-choking 2 rancors. Can't we just get KOTOR 3 already?

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Not really seeing the huge leap forward everyone else is talking about here.  It does look better than the first one, but that was one of the most disappointing games ever.  Mix the Star Wars license with the best gaming tech around (Euphoria and DMM): how could it not be great?  Poor graphics, weak linear level designs, lack of implementation of physics, poor AI, crappy combat, and making light sabers weak as hell is a good start.  None of those things really looks improved here, just fancy new over the top powers.

WTF, even in the new video, it looks to take like 10 lightsaber hits to knock out a storm trooper.  Those things should be sending limbs flying everywhere!  I didn't see any of the "dismemberment" in that video at all.  Then again, it will probably end up being part of a scripted QTE anyway.

Maybe it's just me, but a bad@ss Star Wars character should be all about the lightsabers.  The force powers are cool in small moderation, but I don't want to be flying around shooting crumpled up AT-AT's charged with "canonball" like powers at stormtroopers while simultaneously juggling and electro-choking  2 rancors.  Can't we just get KOTOR 3 already?

Ronsauce

Commented on 2010-09-10 04:21:09 In reply to michaelob

Posted by michaelob

Maybe it's just me, but a bad@ss Star Wars character should be all about the lightsabers. The force powers are cool in small moderation, but I don't want to be flying around shooting crumpled up AT-AT's charged with "canonball" like powers at stormtroopers while simultaneously juggling and electro-choking 2 rancors.

Agree 100%!

Chain-lightning attacks to multiple enemies is cool if you're playing Diablo, however, that's the last thing I want to be doing(besides Force forcing guys to commit suicide) if I'm playing as a badass Jedi/Sith with a lightsaber or two. The more grandiose the Force powers get, the less it feels like Star Wars.

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PlumbDrumb

Commented on 2010-09-10 08:14:15 In reply to foda500

Posted by foda500

Don't get your hopes up the PC version of the first game was AWFUL.

Another bad port, complements of ASPYR.

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bombastico

Commented on 2010-09-10 08:42:37

this is NOT Star Wars... Well, it actually is Star Wars because Lucas Arts says so, but it really makes me sad sad sad.

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Sath

Commented on 2010-09-10 11:48:15

This is the best Star Wars "media" that has come out since Episode 6, the rest has sucked badly.

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OpiZA

Commented on 2010-09-10 12:07:52

Coming along nicely!

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Zarsky

Commented on 2010-09-10 15:31:50

If Aspyr makes the PC version of this game I won't even give It a chance.

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IRAIPT0IR

Commented on 2010-09-10 15:53:36 In reply to Sath

Posted by Sath

This is the best Star Wars "media" that has come out since Episode 6, the rest has sucked badly.

What about the Clone Wars cartoon?

I think they are awesome!

:)

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doopher

Commented on 2010-09-10 18:06:28

i hate the halt'ing in combat....... looks like 1 big lagfest! why is this a Star Wars game?

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pac666

Commented on 2010-09-10 18:09:40

Force powers look way over the top (It's just not in keeping with the Star Wars films) at this rate he could take on the Emperor, Luke, Yoda and Vader at the same time and just piss on them, it's a joke. Other than KOTOR no SW game has captured the atmosphere of the universe we all know and love. Hopefullty one day a developer will get it right. It just looks as if Lucas Arts is not going to be that developer.

Also stormtrooper armour can apparently withstand a direct lightsabre blow now for god sake! (look at the video)

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PlumbDrumb

Commented on 2010-09-10 19:32:18

I wouldn't over-think it like that.
I take it as a "what if?" scenario in the most awesome Star Wars universe.

You know, like "What if there was a Psi-Ops sequel?"

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digi_matrix

Commented on 2010-09-10 21:43:31

Was that Spider in Republic Commando?

If this combat can touch Jedi Knights games, then I might actually give this series a go.

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zlimness

Commented on 2010-09-12 02:00:50

It's strange that they specifically adress my problems with the combat; that the lightsaber is more like a baseball bat that didn't dismember. Then they go on talking about how it's not like that anymore. But doesn't it look still look exactly like that? They haven't changed it at all!

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Sath

Commented on 2010-09-12 07:54:05

It has dismemberment, thats good enough.
If you have your lightsaber cut limbs with one swing then the purpose to combos is out, and thats no fun.

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zlimness

Commented on 2010-09-12 13:25:59

It doesn't have to cut with one hit. But what gets me is that you hit guys and they fly all over the place. Look at Ninja Gaiden for a good example of how you do sword combat.

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Sath

Commented on 2010-09-12 14:17:49

In Ninja Gaiden you use a sword, it hacks or slashes on their body bodies, not dismember them like a lightsaber unless the engine was made that way...unless you OT them randomly in NG2/S2.

I do agree that the lightsaber still feels like using a glowing baseball bat but atleast dismemberment is in there and they have to make it "weighty" when you do some combos.
Lightsabers is a hard thing to execute in games compared to swords.

If you have them getting cut in each swing then there is no purpose of combos at all, no fun.
But if you want combos you have to use the "baseball bat" mentality to make it work, even fi they get pushed back a bit. The whole "flying all over the place" is exagerated, in TFU1 it would happen even if you would try to grab them and that was the technical issues that made it that way, not on purpose.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2010-09-12 18:20:01

someone said (i think it was jato) that the combat was spastic...and that pretty much nails it as far as describing the combat in the first game (and the second game too looking at the footage) it's far too erratic, and not much fun. the first game felt incredibly mediocre. it had some nice tech (some of which seemed wasted like the euphoria engine), but otherwise just felt like a typical existing franchise themed game. no better or worse then the usual movie tie-in.

as with the first they can make it look really cool. but when you get your hands on it is just doesnt feel all that great. especially regarding the combat.

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Jato

Commented on 2010-09-12 20:09:01 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

someone said (i think it was jato) that the combat was spastic...and that pretty much nails it as far as describing the combat in the first game (and the second game too looking at the footage) it's far too erratic, and not much fun. the first game felt incredibly mediocre. it had some nice tech (some of which seemed wasted like the euphoria engine), but otherwise just felt like a typical existing franchise themed game. no better or worse then the usual movie tie-in.

as with the first they can make it look really cool. but when you get your hands on it is just doesnt feel all that great. especially regarding the combat.

That wasn't me I think, or atleast...not recently that I can remember.

Either way, I do agree with you (or me, haha!); The game looks pretty cool at first, but when you get your hands on it, it's just very mediocre and extremely unsatisfying. For that reason, I can't really get excited for this one. Visuals are excellent though.

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