GSY RETRO | XBOX Monday, September 8, 2014 | 1:20 PM

GSY Retro: Remembering PGR 1 & 2

GSY Retro: Remembering PGR 1 & 2

Since our GSY Retro idea was warmly welcome by the community, here is another bunch of videos from the past! To wrap up our coverage of the Project Gotham Racing series, we obviously had to talk about the two first episodes, so dark10x got you some footage of both games on the original Xbox while Miguel captured a few videos of PGR 2 on his 360. If you're more into Sony, Nintendo and Sega, don't worry, we have tons of ideas regarding our retro coverage. Of course, if you have any suggestions to make, now would be a good time.

PGR - London
PGR - New York
PGR - San Francisco
PGR - Tokyo
PGR2 - First race
PGR2 - Race NSX
PGR2 - Washington
PGR2 - Yokohama night
PGR2 - Cones (X360)
PGR2 - Race (X360)
PGR2 - Race night (X360)
PGR2 - Showroom (X360)
PGR2 - Garage (X360)

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Commented on 2014-09-08 14:39:46
I love these Retro-segments! <3
Commented on 2014-09-08 14:40:25
Remembering Metropolis Street Racer. If we're going back, go all the way back ;)
Commented on 2014-09-08 15:15:14
Thanks for those videos! Bring back great memories...
Btw, Metropolis Street Racer was an incredible game, I loved it so much :3
Commented on 2014-09-08 15:37:57
Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast would be a good one to cover perhaps, (was the very reason I bought one!).

I remember being blown away by the showroom in PGR2 when it first came out - it was soo cool just taking 'em out for a test drive (especially after you'd fettled the ini files a bit) :)
Commented on 2014-09-08 16:20:47
This is a great idea, showing old games with almost the same quality as playing them back then, amazing for people who didn't get to experience them in their own time :) Along these lines, Shenmue I & II would be amazing :3
Commented on 2014-09-08 16:45:31 In reply to 7mgte
Posted by 7mgte
Remembering Metropolis Street Racer. If we're going back, go all the way back ;)
We will most definitely do MSR at one point in the next few months :)
Shenmue will also of course be featured!
Commented on 2014-09-08 17:03:27
Remembering need for speed underground 2
Commented on 2014-09-08 17:08:52
Cool stuff, a retrospective can be good to get once in a while. :)
Commented on 2014-09-08 18:33:57
Tried MSR on DC a while back and wonder: Damn, how did I play this at the time ? Draw distance is so bad it's almost unbearable, and i'm not even kidding (same with LeMans, played it on a CRT with VGA box). So, just a little warning at this point: While some games like JSR, ShenMue, SC etc. hold up pretty well today, some, like MSR, are not as good as you may remember them.
Commented on 2014-09-08 18:41:57
My favourite racing franchise. Local radio stations in PGR 2 were the best, still have Moopie - Kagoshima on my brain after a decade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFyHAC85p38
Commented on 2014-09-08 19:42:56
I not only used to LOVE Those games, but I still think about them often. The track details, for the time, were so amazing- they made one hell of an impression. Especially PGR2. I remember the Australian tracks vividly. I used to max out my skills on the Beetle RSI and I couldn't get enough of it. And people who 'fondly' remember MSR are being hipsters. I had MSR and it was lacking in just about every respect. No offense, but it wasn't a good game- it just had good ideas (that PGR polished).
Commented on 2014-09-08 20:15:13
Pgr was a great series. Some of the team from bizzare work at playground games on the horizon series. Imo horizon was a natural progression over Pgr and a better game. Horizon 2 should be amazing.
Commented on 2014-09-08 20:43:54
Wow nice to see a classic game actually look as good as you remember it, these games have aged with dignity.
Commented on 2014-09-08 21:26:02
It was the little details that made the game very good. PGR did many things other racers hadnt done, and having a showroom, that you can walk around, and check all the cars out in, is definitely one of those cool little things that even games today dont do.

The PGR series in general is very good graphically. PGR3 and especially PGR4 can actually hold their ground in terms of going up against next generation racing games. The car models alone in PGR4 had about 100,000-130,000 polygons (inside and outside combined).

Shit, i think PGR3 was the first racer to incorporate a good cockpit view. I want to say it was after PGR3 that it started being considered a standard that racing games have it.
Commented on 2014-09-08 21:38:40
Even the first games were already amazing.
Commented on 2014-09-09 01:32:39
Is it just me, or does PGR 1 look a bit better than PGR 2? It even runs at a smoother frame-rate.
Commented on 2014-09-09 03:48:25
Great stuff, thanks for doing this.
Commented on 2014-09-09 10:18:45 In reply to BlimBlim
Posted by BlimBlim
We will most definitely do MSR at one point in the next few months :)
Shenmue will also of course be featured!
Oh wow Blim, very nice!! Will look forward to those! :)
Commented on 2014-09-09 16:07:46
Aww, and Metropolis Street Racer on the Dreamcast too! The coolest thing was the real time of day feature, where it would calculate what time it was IRL in the city you were racing in, based on your Dreamcast's clock and time zone.

I wish my Dreamcast still worked.
Commented on 2014-09-09 16:10:22 In reply to cma112087
Posted by cma112087
It was the little details that made the game very good. PGR did many things other racers hadnt done, and having a showroom, that you can walk around, and check all the cars out in, is definitely one of those cool little things that even games today dont do.

The PGR series in general is very good graphically. PGR3 and especially PGR4 can actually hold their ground in terms of going up against next generation racing games. The car models alone in PGR4 had about 100,000-130,000 polygons (inside and outside combined).

Shit, i think PGR3 was the first racer to incorporate a good cockpit view. I want to say it was after PGR3 that it started being considered a standard that racing games have it.
PGR3 really made the Xbox 360 seem next-gen (at the time); such a huge leap over anything on the original Xbox. I was instantly sold.

And dat cockpit view with its subtle shakes (or is that nostalgia clouding my memory?).
Commented on 2014-09-09 16:35:34 In reply to BlimBlim
Posted by BlimBlim
We will most definitely do MSR at one point in the next few months :)
Shenmue will also of course be featured!
Excellent! :)
Posted by SplitTongue
Tried MSR on DC a while back and wonder: Damn, how did I play this at the time ? Draw distance is so bad it's almost unbearable, and i'm not even kidding (same with LeMans, played it on a CRT with VGA box)
I honestly don't know what you are talking about. Crisp and clear all the way to the distance with just minor pop-up.
Posted by Kethmach
I had MSR and it was lacking in just about every respect. No offense, but it wasn't a good game- it just had good ideas (that PGR polished).
I don't know what you are talking about either, but it can't be about handling, graphics or soundtrack. But the game is quite hard.
Commented on 2014-09-09 17:16:59
I think we should have a retro review of Blue Stinger too!

Ahem...
Commented on 2014-09-09 17:29:04
I remember what really impressed me about MSR was its fake radio stations, i'd never seen that in a game before. Of course it also looked photo-realistic to my innocent eyes back then
Commented on 2014-09-09 19:39:51 In reply to 2PintsOfInsulin
Posted by 2PintsOfInsulin
I think we should have a retro review of Blue Stinger too!

Ahem...
"Ahem..."? Hopefully that is not sign of sarcasm. Or indicating that the game would receive a negative review. Because Blue Stinger belongs to my list of top 10 favorite games of all time. Great adventure!
Commented on 2014-09-09 20:50:30 In reply to Janman
Posted by Janman
I honestly don't know what you are talking about. Crisp and clear all the way to the distance with just minor pop-up.
...when played with NullDC on 1080p. Imo F355 Ferrarri Challenge is one of the few racing games that still looks great on it's original 640x480 resolution. How I feel about MSR ? To put it very exaggerated, follow Link, switch to 144p and you'll see what I mean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLuLpErwjXw
Dat draw distance... ugh
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