Once again thanks to the XCN, we got another great interview to post. This time it's time for Harvey Lee, Platform Marketing Manager for Xbox 360 Europe, to share his thoughts about the HD-DVD, and to give some long answers about HDMI, HD-DVD-games, Blu-Ray and much much more.
Is the HD DVD going to be pre-loaded with 8gb of system data, which most people will find is a bit of a waste of space?
If I understand your question you're asking if the "disc capacity" is taken up with a lot of system data? Far from it, HD DVD is the most efficient HD disc format.
What about HDMI connectivity, does it support it and if not, why not?
You just don’t need it and it’s a myth that you do. The "perception" is that the main reason for HDMI is to support 1080p resolutions. We support native 1080p via VGA and Component cables on Xbox 360 as recently announced. I've spoken to many folks recently at trade shows and X06 and there's a common mis-conception that you "need" HDMI for native 1080p support from a technical point of view. Not true. Even if you can find a 1080p HDTV (let's face it, there's hardly any on the market anyway and they are hardly affordable!) HDMI is just another way to connect your device and furthermore, not all uses my HDMI port!
Do you have plans for bundles with the HD DVD player?
To be candid, most of our bundles feature the latest games; gamers have repeatedly told us that they want the latest and greatest hot games. We recently released a Pro Evolution 6 bundle in Europe and it blew the barn doors off! The main reason gamers are buying Xbox 360 right now is to play some of HDTVs support HDMI and if you have a screen that does, it's likely your HD Cable TV set top box is using it. Mine does at home so I use VGA for my Xbox 360 on my 32" HD screen and it's fabulous, better HD than I get from my HD Cable TV service that the amazing gaming content we have on the platform. Gears of War has the hairs on the back of our necks stood on end!
How many HD-movies will be available this year and in 2007?
Good question. It will be slightly different in each country but as a guide, roughly 30-40 movies day one and that will rise to 100 and beyond very quickly. In the US, they are already touching 150 by this Xmas. If you look at what has been happening in the US, it's very interesting and HD DVD is doing really well vs. Blu Ray, sorry, it's doing better than "doing well" it's winning. HD DVD launched with more titles, higher quality (more on this later) and cheaper players. Folks responded to this and thus officially HD DVD is out selling Blu Ray movies at least 3:1 and the HD DVD Players are outselling the Blu Ray Players 2:1. I am not trying to boast here, these are just the cold facts from the launch in the USA and the facts can't be denied. You if you are interested in finding our more information on the sales facts, you can easily find them on the Internet.
Is the HD DVD Microsoft's answer to Sony's Blu-Ray technology? And what do you personally think about the Blu-Ray technology?
Compared to HD DVD it’s lagging behind and currently offers an inferior experience at a higher price. First let me say that HD DVD is not "Microsoft's answer to Blu Ray"; we support the format but we don’t own it. Both Blu Ray and HD DVD are authorised to use 3 types of codecs (a compression technology), MPEG2, VC1 and H.264. However what is interesting is the "adoption" of these codecs as it directly affects the quality of the definition of the picture you see. HD DVD uses VC1, this is a codec actually and ironically developed by Microsoft and hugely adopted. Right now, Blu Ray uses MPEG2, a compression technology that's 10 years old (your MP3's use it!) and offers less efficient compression vs. VC1. Please don't take my word for it, look for HD DVD vs. Blu Ray movie comparisons on the Internet and you will find that each "vs." review of the same movie on the 2 formats, HD DVD clearly wins. Compression has a huge part to play here; the reviews report that on some of the current Blu Ray movies, the image even starts breaking up in the corners of the picture where the HD DVD version is clear as a bell. Now, if I was investing in a new disc format (and thus a new TV that is HD) I'd be really steamed off if the picture broke up! Why don't you take a look and listen to the HD DVD vs. Blu Ray audio casts over at www.majornelson.com there's some fantastic information the major has and his audio cast is a hoot. In all seriousness, I really encourage everyone to research the whole topic for the facts on sales and technical comparisons, it's easy enough to do on the Internet; the facts should help you make your decision.
Will there be any other special features introduced exclusively for the Microsoft HD DVD player?
Actually the features are really on the discs themselves, not the players and the Xbox 360 HD DVD players fully supports all the features of HD DVD. For example picture-in-picture, hybrid combo discs (1 side DVD, 1 side HD DVD), commentary, etc.
Will it ever be possible to play games on the HD DVD Player? Or in other words... Will there be games released on HD DVD discs?
The HD DVD Player for Xbox 360 is all about choice, your choice. That choice also includes the games you want to play at a price that's competitive and attractive. Our compression is leading edge and thus it makes genuine next-generation games like Gears of War possible without the need for games on an HD DVD. At the end of the day, gamers have to pay a higher price for games on HD discs and as we have proved that leading edge HD games are not dependant on having an HD Disc format, we don't pass that cost on to gamers unlike some. I would suggest to you that you look into how many of the PS3 titles will be on Blu Ray 50GB discs...I think you will find it's none. Why? Because it's just not necessary and further more folks have to pay a serious premium (read "penalty"!) for Blu Ray, a format that is not necessary for HD gaming. We've proved that with titles like Oblivion and Gears of War. When you hear "you need Blu Ray for the best HD games" what you are really hearing is "Our compression is not as good so we need you to buy our larger capacity discs please" Gears of War is out November 17th by the way.
HD-DVD won't be able to match the Blu-ray launch in Europe, due to the fact that just a few countries will receive a relative small shipping of readers and discs, while launch in other countries has been delayed to an unknown date in 2007. How do you think this disadvantage will affect the spreading of the HD-DVD media through Europe?
There is no disadvantage, even though the launch of HD DVD is staggered across Europe. At least we have a launch, where is the "DelayStation"? I can tell you also that the recent launch of the standalone Blu Ray player in Europe at over €1200 has been met with complete indifference and it's hardly a surprise. There's no content and it's exteremely expensive...the HD DVD Player for Xbox 360 is €199 and will have great title support...I think that's worth waiting for, plus it will be available in the whole of Europe before PS3.
Microsoft was quick to follow the HD-DVD track but still doesn't provide direct support (e.g. not by the way of a Media Center Server) for its own WMV-HD discs in its new console, even if that was the very first reliable Home Video HD Solution on the market. Why?
Well, that's not entirely true; you can stream video content, in HD (WMV-HD) from your PC through your Xbox 360. You can also stream your TV and DVR (digital video recorder) features from your Media Centre via your Xbox 360 so to answer your question directly, it is supported
Being an external unit, has the HD-DVD drive been an easy product to design alongside the Xbox 360? That's a good question. The simple fact is that no new technology is easy to develop for, by its very nature because it’s new! You should ask Sony how easy it has been to develop Blu Ray *smiles*. The truth of the matter is that the Xbox 360 console itself has the processing power which keeps the costs and "some" of the complexities down to a point. When you actually see the HD DVD Player for Xbox 360 you may be quite surprised how small it is for a new format.
Should Blue-Ray become more popular with the consumer, would MS rule out adding Blue-Ray drives in the future?
"If" Blu Ray becomes popular and it’s a very big "if", we're talking years down the line and I will be thinking about trousers with elasticated waistbands and liquidising my food. Do you want to spend €1200 now on a Blu Ray Player on the "chance" it may become popular? It may join the "where are they now" gallery in the Sony museum along with Betamax, MiniDisc and UMD. Our position has always been around "choice", we want to offer choice, what we have and are proving is that you do not "need" an HD format to enjoy the latest next-generation HD games, PS3 are penalising gamers for Blu Ray for their own motives. Financial Analysts have been stating recently that they think Sony are more interested in the movie business which makes PS3 a very expensive DVD player. Not much of a choice is it?
Why should we buy the HD-DVD when many critics believe we are but a couple of years from all our movies being stored on a hard drive and DVD's will simply become irrelevant?
Did you know that you are completely correct? We announced our Xbox 360 Video Marketplace Download Service this week and fans of digital media have spoke loudly over the past couple of years and the result has been that downloaded content is hear to stay. Even Phil Harrison at Sony recently said at his own press conference that in 5 years all content will be downloaded; ironic as he was there to promote Blu Ray Disc *smiles*. Here at Microsoft, we don't think it will be 5 years...it's the here and now. Only a year ago in the UK the music charts saw its first number 1 hit single that was a download-only single and the market moves quickly. I buy music online too via MSN and I am a big fan of having this choice. Our HD DVD Player is optional for this reason, we want people to have a choice, you can download or buy discs but we will not penalise gamers for formats that they do not needed to enjoy HD content. It's all about choice.
Many thanks to XCN and Harvey for making this interview possible!
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i reakon in 10 years but not 5.
at last a guy who is NOT politically correct and says it like it is! nice interview :)
Guess i'll have to wait for a standalone player.
If you had gears of war in the 360's dvd drive and then viva pinata in the HD-DVD drive attachment, would you be able to swap between the two, without moving any discs? Don't know, but theoretically, i see no reason why not. The USB 2 connection is quite a bit faster than the maximum transfer rate of dvd. Though don't know whether this is currently possible in the software.
Someone mentioned something similar to Major Nelson a while back. They asked if, while playing a game (gears of war) from the dvd drive, could you play your own custom soundtrack from a music CD (Toxicity, SOAD) that was in the HD-DVD drive. Major said he didn't know. Would be a cool feature though.
Heheh, "delaystation." Quick! Someone make a new image for thisiswaiting.com!
i reakon in 10 years but not 5.
a 10GB file, at that speed, would take less than an hour to d/l (at optimum speeds). Still not super-fast. but awesome considering you don't even have to leave the couch.
Great interview.
Edit: YAY! !343 days! Halo fans will know why this is significant :)
First off, on the dashboard, the HD-DVD is on the bottom, regular is on the top. It would be nice if this is switchable, as I have my HD-DVD on top of my 360.
Second, there shouldn't really be any reason why you couldn't play a game in the HD-DVD player other than the transfer rate of USB. The player reads regular DVD Movies (it upscales them infact), but when you stick a 360 game in there, it acts like a regular DVD player and tells you to stick the game in a 360. So, the short answer is that the HD-DVD will not play games, but it's not due to the laser.
As for my feelings on HD-DVD so far, I love it. The picture looks great, it was easy to install, and I think it looks great. I'm thankful that MS didn't delay it's console to include it, and/or jack up the price to include it for everyone. My niece really wanted one after she played Viva Pinata at my house, so i got her a 360 for this Xmas. I just picked up a Core and threw in a Memory Card so she could save her game. She's 6 years old, so she's not going to be doing a whole lot with it other than playing this game and Kameo. However, I'm glad that I could get away with spending just $259 (CC $40 Off Coupon) plus the price of the memory card and game, rather than $500 + game. The second scenario wouldn't have happened.
To check out my unboxing pics of the HD-DVD player, check out my site:
http://www.audioeric.com/
About that VC1 codec. So it is compatible with Blu-ray. There must be a reason why some manufacturers don't use it. And if Blu-ray content makers will start to use it (and if it is superior, they probably will), then what?
And when he is talking about those very expensive Blu-ray drives, is he trying to get people to buy PS3? If games will really need that extra space, then developers have that option with PS3. Compression is always the worse choice. Oblivion is a good example of a game being huge and fitting to Xbox 360 game disc. Gears of War is not, because it is a short game.
Also about always mentioning those past failures of Sony. So Sony may have made some bad decision earlier, but it doesn't automatically mean that they will do so also this time around. Besides, it has been said that Betamax had better picture quality than VHS. And creating CD format with Philips was a good decision.
Touting that: "We let you choose.", is also getting old. Microsoft wanted to go to the market early, so they really didn't even have that choice to implement a new disc format. Of course Sony is pushing their new format that they have created. It is also a little bit ridiculous to say "Hey, we have this great HD-DVD add-on, buy it!" and next "But of course, if you don't think that this format will succeed, do not!".
And as a side note, downloading of 5 to 10 Gb HD movies would fill up that 12 Gb hard drive Xbox 360 has very quickly. Atleast you can erase them and download again with no extra cost. By the way, isn't that about the size of double layer DVDs (9.4 Gb?) like the Xbox 360 game discs?
I don't want to buy this and end up with a system where it would be a failure and what a waste of money kinda thing..
I will get a ps3 next year, and it already comes with a blu-ray player..but i don't want it to fail and then shell out extra money on a HD DVD player...and since blu-ray can fit alot more, isn't that going to be a great thing?
In UK, the difference between a Blu-ray DVD and HD dvd is just £2. Each company says theirs is better and the other one isn't.. What are the lies, the real truth, and what truely is the best format for HIGH DEFINITION?
Ahh! It's just so confusing! I suppose i'll leave it until end of next year and see which really is winning and which High def format to jump to.
I don't want to buy this and end up with a system where it would be a failure and what a waste of money kinda thing..
I will get a ps3 next year, and it already comes with a blu-ray player..but i don't want it to fail and then shell out extra money on a HD DVD player...and since blu-ray can fit alot more, isn't that going to be a great thing?
In UK, the difference between a Blu-ray DVD and HD dvd is just £2. Each company says theirs is better and the other one isn't.. What are the lies, the real truth, and what truely is the best format for HIGH DEFINITION?
Ahh! It's just so confusing! I suppose i'll leave it until end of next year and see which really is winning and which High def format to jump to.
As with any interview from a person hired by the company it's touting, I take this with a truck load of salt. This guy keeps bashing Sony but is doing exactly what they do when it comes to selling their products.
-He ONLY says that you don't need HDMI to view in 1080p, but he doesn't mention the fact that it can transmit uncompressed streams of audo and video (meaning better audio and better video)
-Sony is making us pay a premium for something uneccessary? Wth is he talking about?
Video games on PS3 come on Blueray (more expensive format with more storage) and the X360 games on DVD (less expensive format with less storage) but you pay the same for the games.
If you want to talk about price Xbox360 cost the same as the PS3 with it's HD-DVD add on (400+200=600) unless of course you went with the Core version saving you 100$ (but most people don't have or get the core). Notice how he never mentions this when he starts talking about pricing and only sticks to the pricing of the Blueray players (which are rediculously high).
-He says the storage on Blueray is uneccessary. Developers are transitioning from the old format (DVD) and going to something new and as with any transition it is difficult to make the best of what you have. I love how he talks about paying so much for a Blueray player that will be ancient in several years but Xbox360 DVD format will become ancient more quickly then Blueray will because down the road we are going to need more storage for games and developers are going to have more options with the Blueray format wether they want to make one SKU or if they want to fill the game with a bunch of extra's giving the consumer more value for their buck. Also comes the fact that with HDMI and Blueray paired you have the space to store uncompressed audio/video and the capability to stream that through HDMI.
-That whole downloading movies crap....I'm not even going to bother, Sony and Microsoft are complete idiots if they believe people would rather download movies from the internet onto a storage space (which is expensive to buy and also the possibility of corruption and other problems that come with computers SIDE NOTE: I hope he isn't serious about downloading movies to Xbox360 because that 20g drive is going to fill up very very quickly and nobody will do that) then to buy movies in hand.
This guy is just like all those bullshitters, stuffing a product down your throat by giving you only part of the facts.
As for the movie format I have no idea wth is going to happen but my guess will be it's Blueray because with the PS3 comes the blueray player and we all know when we got our PS2's we started getting into the DVD era. But I don't know, I'm just guessing with a historical bases.
Well I guess this Harvey character got you too -_-. Look up first what the facts are. Initial versions of Sony's Blu-ray Disc-authoring software only included support for MPEG-2 video, so the initial Blu-ray Discs were forced to use MPEG-2 rather than the newer codecs, VC-1 and H.264. An upgrade was subsequently released supporting the newer compression methods so the second wave of Blu-ray Disc titles were able to make use of this.
I think a better question is which Sony developed medium has ever "won"? True, BetaMax looked better, but it's not always what looks better that wins over the consumer..
Let's see, so we have BetaMax, MiniDisc, ATRAC, Memory Stick, UMD, and let's not forget DRM'ed CD's... So, what are formats/standards that Sony was initially behind that have succeeded?
HDDVD - the new format for movies
BLU-RAY - the new format for gaming.
DOT! And hey, I own a 360! So please no lame fanboy comments :)
Love y'all
First off, on the dashboard, the HD-DVD is on the bottom, regular is on the top. It would be nice if this is switchable, as I have my HD-DVD on top of my 360.
Second, there shouldn't really be any reason why you couldn't play a game in the HD-DVD player other than the transfer rate of USB. The player reads regular DVD Movies (it upscales them infact), but when you stick a 360 game in there, it acts like a regular DVD player and tells you to stick the game in a 360. So, the short answer is that the HD-DVD will not play games, but it's not due to the laser.
As for my feelings on HD-DVD so far, I love it. The picture looks great, it was easy to install, and I think it looks great. I'm thankful that MS didn't delay it's console to include it, and/or jack up the price to include it for everyone. My niece really wanted one after she played Viva Pinata at my house, so i got her a 360 for this Xmas. I just picked up a Core and threw in a Memory Card so she could save her game. She's 6 years old, so she's not going to be doing a whole lot with it other than playing this game and Kameo. However, I'm glad that I could get away with spending just $259 (CC $40 Off Coupon) plus the price of the memory card and game, rather than $500 + game. The second scenario wouldn't have happened.
To check out my unboxing pics of the HD-DVD player, check out my site:
http://www.audioeric.com/