R6 Vegas 2: Weapons

Commented on 2008-02-22 18:31:59

New weapons for this game yes .. but not in general also i didnt like the feel of multiplayer on the last game ... felt slow ridged and some what awkward compared to other games COD4,Halo3 etc ... how ever looks pretty polished

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Inflatable

Commented on 2008-02-22 18:53:00

CoD4 for me offers the best balance in gameplay between fastpaced arcade gameplay and slowpaced realism.. Halo is to much arcade and sci-fi for me, and R6 is to much realism resulting in to much slow gameplay (camping etc).. CoD4 is a bit like Counterstrike in that sense, the perfect balance.. That's also why it's so popular I think, as it appeals to most FPS gamers whatever gameplay they prefer..

I have to admit though that I haven't really played a R6 game online since the 1st original one on the PC many years ago, but it still looks to me as a camper's game with shooting arround corners from cover etc..

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senators2904

Commented on 2008-02-22 18:57:23

compared to cod4 and halo 3 they shouldnt feel the same rainbow six is a much more realistic game and should go at a slower pace even though people allow others to do it in games like this you shouldnt be able to run through enemies the way you do in the other 2 and when you do do it its a much more satisfying experience and is worth bragging about. plus you'll never get the gunplay in the other two vs the rb6 series. as a fps fanatic this game is heaven. cod4 and halo 3 cant compare.

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Lobogaara

Commented on 2008-02-22 19:08:20

Actually senator im a fps fanatic and i know what im talking about the console versions are pathetic of this game ive played cs for over 5years not to mention countless fps games this on a console is not fps heaven plz dont make me laugh its clear cod4 is the best fps on a console to date atm closely in 2nd team fortress two.

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cchance

Commented on 2008-02-22 19:52:55

compairing cod4 and halo3 to rainbow 6 is idiotic

rainbow6 is a sim shooter, thats why 1 shot to the head can kill ya... not so in cod4 and halo3

so asking for it to be fast paced and still be rainbow six is an oxymoron, if it was faster like halo and still the sim way of r6 no one would win ever lol

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citizenx

Commented on 2008-02-22 20:21:03 In reply to cchance

Posted by cchance

compairing cod4 and halo3 to rainbow 6 is idiotic

rainbow6 is a sim shooter, thats why 1 shot to the head can kill ya... not so in cod4 and halo3

so asking for it to be fast paced and still be rainbow six is an oxymoron, if it was faster like halo and still the sim way of r6 no one would win ever lol

You obviously haven't played Call Of Duty 4 if you don't think headshots equate to a 1-shot kill.

Rainbow Six has been poor since RB6 3.

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Biffo

Commented on 2008-02-22 20:44:33 In reply to citizenx

Posted by citizenx

You obviously haven't played Call Of Duty 4 if you don't think headshots equate to a 1-shot kill.

They dont, at least with some guns. It takes 2 shots to the head to kill someone with a G36C or G3.

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citizenx

Commented on 2008-02-22 22:44:16 In reply to Biffo

Posted by Biffo

They dont, at least with some guns. It takes 2 shots to the head to kill someone with a G36C or G3.

then youre either missing the first, or your connection is poor. the G3 is the gun of my choice, and i get 1-shot kills all the time (without any perks to increase damage)

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Real720

Commented on 2008-02-23 01:12:45 In reply to senators2904

Posted by senators2904

compared to cod4 and halo 3 they shouldnt feel the same rainbow six is a much more realistic game and should go at a slower pace even though people allow others to do it in games like this you shouldnt be able to run through enemies the way you do in the other 2 and when you do do it its a much more satisfying experience and is worth bragging about. plus you'll never get the gunplay in the other two vs the rb6 series. as a fps fanatic this game is heaven. cod4 and halo 3 cant compare.

CoD4 is better and more realistic.

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Doom_Bringer

Commented on 2008-02-23 04:06:15

engine hasn't aged well IMO. looks totally lame. DO.NOT.WANT

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2008-02-23 04:10:09 In reply to Real720

Posted by Doom_Bringer

engine hasn't aged well IMO. looks totally lame. DO.NOT.WANT

Their version of the engine hasn't aged well, but I bet we'll be seeing games based on UE3 next gen.

Posted by Real720

CoD4 is better and more realistic.

COD4 is certainly better, but I wouldn't really call it realistic.

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Tinks

Commented on 2008-02-23 05:14:20

In the end a fps is still a fps. It's life span is short and it's nothing new EVER

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2008-02-23 05:19:55 In reply to Tinks

Posted by Tinks

In the end a fps is still a fps. It's life span is short and it's nothing new EVER

Wrong in every way possible. People will be playing COD4 for years. Tons of people still play COD2 on PC--and Counter Strike 1.6 is still the most popular FPS ever (there are hundreds of thousands of people playing it right now). Plenty of FPS games do new things too--but the examples are actually too numerous to pick from.

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Lobogaara

Commented on 2008-02-23 16:02:55 In reply to citizenx

Posted by citizenx

You obviously haven't played Call Of Duty 4 if you don't think headshots equate to a 1-shot kill.

Rainbow Six has been poor since RB6 3.

very true exactly, ive played it on 360 and get as many hs as i the pc version.

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2008-02-23 16:58:23

You obviously haven't played Call Of Duty 4 if you don't think headshots equate to a 1-shot kill.

I've played like 325+ hours of COD4 MP and I can tell you that with many weapons (non-bullshit, aka "hardcore" mode) will not kill someone with one bullet. This includes the M4, the deagle, and plenty of other weapons--and it includes stopping power (and not jugg) which is a 40% increase in bullet damage globally. This is even more pronounced when people are using jugg, which doesn't actually increase your health, but makes you take 75% of normal damage.

Most of these weapons would destroy a persons dome in real life--thank god this is a game.

Hardcore doesn't count. If removing the radar without removing the kill streak modifiers wasn't already enough of an insult--they simply didn't put much thought into the way they scaled up damage. A f'n smoke grenade to the chest will kill you from full health. That's just ridiculous and hardly any more realistic than the vanilla settings. If you want to play a "hardcore" mode, play the PAM mod with the CAL rule set.

I hear everyone on the consoles uses the M4. That's sorta a shame if they're not giving the SMG's love since they dominate the midfield and CQC. Plus the AK-47 rocks beyond belief.

If you're interested in COD4's actual bullet damage, here's the straight dope:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p-h7tlklcGQ...

With all that said: COD4 may not be realistic (and it's not)--but realism doesn't equate to balance or fun. COD4 rules. TDM sorta sucks, but S&D is awesome beyond belief. I haven't been able to get into R6 for quite some time but they're obviously completely different approaches to the genre. The only thing they really share in common is the choice of weapons. Call of Duty is a brilliant blend of tactical gameplay and twitch action. Different strokes.

I'm sorta a FFA junky now too. I should get back into COD and back on a team before I miss out on the rest of CAL S1. Fun times.

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[quote]You obviously haven't played Call Of Duty 4 if you don't think headshots equate to a 1-shot kill.[/quote]

I've played like 325+ hours of COD4 MP and I can tell you that with many weapons (non-bullshit, aka "hardcore" mode) will not kill someone with one bullet.  This includes the M4, the deagle, and plenty of other weapons--and it includes stopping power (and [i]not[/i] jugg) which is a 40% increase in bullet damage globally.  This is even more pronounced when people are using jugg, which doesn't actually increase your health, but makes you take [i]75%[/i] of normal damage.

Most of these weapons would destroy a persons dome in real life--thank god this is a [i]game[/i].

Hardcore doesn't count.  If removing the radar without removing the kill streak modifiers wasn't already enough of an insult--they simply didn't put much thought into the way they scaled up damage.  A f'n [i]smoke grenade[/i] to the chest will kill you from [i]full health[/i].  That's just ridiculous and hardly any more realistic than the vanilla settings.  If you want to play a "hardcore" mode, play the PAM mod with the CAL rule set.

I hear everyone on the consoles uses the M4.  That's sorta a shame if they're not giving the SMG's love since they dominate the midfield and CQC.  Plus the AK-47 rocks beyond belief.

If you're interested in COD4's actual bullet damage, here's the straight dope:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=p-h7tlklcGQJZ2yawMIbCKw&hl=en&pli=1

With all that said: COD4 may not be realistic (and it's not)--but realism doesn't equate to balance [i]or[/i] fun.  COD4 rules.  TDM sorta sucks, but S&D is awesome beyond belief.  I haven't been able to get into R6 for quite some time but they're obviously completely different approaches to the genre.  The only thing they really share in common is the choice of weapons.  Call of Duty is a brilliant blend of tactical gameplay  and twitch action.  Different strokes.

I'm sorta a FFA junky now too.  I should get back into COD and back on a team before I miss out on the rest of CAL S1.  Fun times.

Drulaude

Commented on 2008-02-24 04:00:41

i loved rainbow 6 vegas, but i never played the single player i only play it for t-hunt. me and 1-3 mates just mowing down terrorists time after time is great and its looks like this one will be better fixing most of the random spawning that the ai likes to do. ie spawning behind you in a corner you already checked and then shooting you in the back lol

cannot wait :D

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