It's looking quite interesting and that water is amazing. I just hope they fix up the infantry units. Their animations and lack of AI (wouldn't they be flailing about if a dragon landed right next to them!?) don't impress me too much. Yet, the developers have time left. Still...a beautiful game no doubt.
the game looks very impressive and fun, but there is os much to fix...not least the lighting...the models are the same as ever but the the lighting is so extreme all the detail is obscured...the is the first game Ive seen where theyve implemented an effect to hide the detail
I love the concept of flying a dragon around and shooting fire. Problem is it's basically just a flight combat game. I mean the fireballs come out like missles and the dragon animation is great but underneath that it basically just flies like an airplane. They might as well had just made a flight combat game coz the dragon's just a monkey in disguise ;)
Jeez... only 35% complete and looking so good... theu have plenty of time to fix everything that its wrong in this demo. The final game is goinna be sick !
A problem is , that the japanese gamers can't understand the mission objectives because those are in english language .. the videos here are nice to get an impression of the graphics , but to have a better insight on gameplay u should watch the gameplay-video gametrailers.com is offering.
It could be the video, but it does not look like it's running at 1080p60...
I'm I the only one that thinks it isn't that impressive looking? The water is the saving grace, but the textures in general look poor (seems to be a theme of 1080p games).
Confirmed 1080p (IGN Interview):
Lair is not upscaling or cheating to get to 1080p, we are natively running at the full 1920x1080 progressive resolution. Earlier this year we were quite skeptical if that would be possible, but the final kits really were a revelation in terms of power. Sony delivered what they promised and after a bit of tweaking we had the game up-and running. One thing that did help us was that our engine always was heavily reliant on data streaming, so the larger frame buffer memory never was an issue. By now half of our staff has 1080p monitors, and believe me, the 720 guys are jealous.
This title rocked my socks...for a game that is only 40% complete it was amazing...the control was so sweet, I didn't need any extra time to acquiant myself with the SIXAXIS controls. The Air to Ground attacks are so much fun...flaming dudes has never been so much fun. :D
Commented on 2006-09-26 19:46:04 In reply to newbielives
Posted by newbielives
I conceed, I beleive PS3 will win the nex gen war easily, I just can't imagine xbox360 doing this without slow down.
And this game is running at 1080P !!
Thats insane.
Graphics Whore 4 life
Hate to down your aspirations, but this is showcasing nothing that isn't possible on the 360... this isn't even matching the best of what the 360 has accomplished thus far. I don't think this game is showcasing anything impressive and if anything its just proof that 1080p is a pipedream for these consoles. This really isn't that impressive..
I just see nothing here that is a testament to native 1080p if you ask me this game is natively running 720p and was just upscaled to run 1080p (which isn't hard) Any game can "support" 1080p, but that doesn't mean it will look impressive nor run impressively.
So, Factor 5 is basically remaking Rogue Squadron with dragons...
Me likes! :D
Hope it's not repetitive either. For the graphics, i'd better hold judgement for higher quality footage when it surfaces, but there's plenty of time for them to fix textures, at least i hope so. Motorstorm looked like a N64 game in the earlier footage and now it's looking much more detailed and crisp.
Commented on 2006-09-27 13:33:20 In reply to Optimusv2
Posted by Optimusv2
Hate to down your aspirations, but this is showcasing nothing that isn't possible on the 360... this isn't even matching the best of what the 360 has accomplished thus far. I don't think this game is showcasing anything impressive and if anything its just proof that 1080p is a pipedream for these consoles. This really isn't that impressive..
I just see nothing here that is a testament to native 1080p if you ask me this game is natively running 720p and was just upscaled to run 1080p (which isn't hard) Any game can "support" 1080p, but that doesn't mean it will look impressive nor run impressively.
So you think the 360 could run this @ 1080p/60fps? (and it has been confirmed to be 1080p) Looks interesting--who knows, maybe this will fill the gap that Panzer Dragoon has left in my <3
The thing is Op--sure, the 360 can do these games--it can do what we see in DMC4--but can it do it at 60fps? The difference may not come down to graphics this generation--but simply image quality and performance..which, imo, is equally important. It's a bit too early to say if this will truely be an issue--but in this coming year we'll learn quite a bit--about averages, about performance. It's really a bit too early to make any bold claims about either platform.
I see you're not impressed at all with the PS3 yet--but I honestly think at this point in time it's winning the war of averages--and that's a big freaking deal too. Not to mention the war of games--there's over 160 titles announced for the PS3 thus far--and of those, many of them are original releases developed either for the PS3 or 360 and ported--barely a thing in site that's a transition from last generation. RR7 may look just like RR6 in screenshots--but it's also 1080p/60fps--with much better IQ and lighting--it's may not be mindblowingly impressive..but it's still winning thus far when it comes down to game performance.
What will really be interesting is to see how multiplatform titles turn out on each platform--there's going to be a LOT of multiplatform games this generation..should be interesting.
Sure--it may be because the 360 hasn't too many titles directly developed for it yet--but that's just an excuse, really..if Microsoft doesn't want crap (and it is crap) like Just Cause tainting the systems image--then they should keep that crap away from the shelves.
No more ports--that's the only answer.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that Lair isn't exactly one of my most anticipated games either--this does look sorta "meh" compared to other upcoming games on both platforms--but it's still got some time left in it--and the Dragon shooter genre needs more entries :)
For me, PS3 is all about Ridge Racer, Ninja Gaiden, and Virtua Fighter. I'll be picking mine up 2H 2007, probably..and by then some things should be far more clear. Oh...and DMC :)
"1080p/60fps"? Hummm... where did you get this? 1080p it's locked to 30fps, and this is for movies, with games the scenario is even worse, so I ask: what makes you think that any game in any console could possibly run at 1080p/60fps?
Commented on 2006-09-29 01:29:26 In reply to mojiba
Posted by mojiba
"1080p/60fps"? Hummm... where did you get this? 1080p it's locked to 30fps, and this is for movies, with games the scenario is even worse, so I ask: what makes you think that any game in any console could possibly run at 1080p/60fps?
The games at TGS which were running at 1080p and 60fps, like Virtua Tennis 3 and RR7?
Commented on 2006-09-29 14:29:13 In reply to JediMasterMalik
Posted by JediMasterMalik
The games at TGS which were running at 1080p and 60fps, like Virtua Tennis 3 and RR7?
And... you get this information for yourself or someone tell you that? Because hdmi can't carry 60fps, if it was someone from Sony or someone suporting Sony that's understandable, because most of the time they really don't know what they are talking about =)
Commented on 2006-09-30 16:36:28 In reply to GriftGFX
Posted by GriftGFX
I see you're not impressed at all with the PS3 yet--but I honestly think at this point in time it's winning the war of averages--and that's a big freaking deal too. Not to mention the war of games--there's over 160 titles announced for the PS3 thus far--and of those, many of them are original releases developed either for the PS3 or 360 and ported--barely a thing in site that's a transition from last generation. RR7 may look just like RR6 in screenshots--but it's also 1080p/60fps--with much better IQ and lighting--it's may not be mindblowingly impressive..but it's still winning thus far when it comes down to game performance.
Hummm... just like Assassins Creed, same graphical level in both consoles but better AI in the 360. And, do you know that this "1080p at 60fps" it's a bad joke don't you? =)
Commented on 2006-09-30 17:38:10 In reply to mojiba
Posted by mojiba
Hummm... just like Assassins Creed, same graphical level in both consoles but better AI in the 360. And, do you know that this "1080p at 60fps" it's a bad joke don't you? =)
That hasn't been confirmed, and no 1080p at 60fps is NOT joke.
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Commented on 2006-09-26 00:49:50thanks for the vid blim
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Commented on 2006-09-26 07:58:51And this game is running at 1080P !!
Thats insane.
Graphics Whore 4 life
Commented on 2006-09-26 09:47:38
Commented on 2006-09-26 11:15:34Is it confirmed 1080p? No trailers have been 1080p only 720p and if you think about the pics in 1080 they can also be from a 1080i version.
Commented on 2006-09-26 12:30:42I'm I the only one that thinks it isn't that impressive looking? The water is the saving grace, but the textures in general look poor (seems to be a theme of 1080p games).
Confirmed 1080p (IGN Interview):
Commented on 2006-09-26 15:54:59
Commented on 2006-09-26 16:10:52sorry, but I just dont get why you guys are so exited about Lair.
Commented on 2006-09-26 17:08:56
Commented on 2006-09-26 19:46:04 In reply to newbielivesAnd this game is running at 1080P !!
Thats insane.
Graphics Whore 4 life
I just see nothing here that is a testament to native 1080p if you ask me this game is natively running 720p and was just upscaled to run 1080p (which isn't hard) Any game can "support" 1080p, but that doesn't mean it will look impressive nor run impressively.
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Commented on 2006-09-27 01:33:55Me likes! :D
Hope it's not repetitive either. For the graphics, i'd better hold judgement for higher quality footage when it surfaces, but there's plenty of time for them to fix textures, at least i hope so. Motorstorm looked like a N64 game in the earlier footage and now it's looking much more detailed and crisp.
Commented on 2006-09-27 13:33:20 In reply to Optimusv2I just see nothing here that is a testament to native 1080p if you ask me this game is natively running 720p and was just upscaled to run 1080p (which isn't hard) Any game can "support" 1080p, but that doesn't mean it will look impressive nor run impressively.
The thing is Op--sure, the 360 can do these games--it can do what we see in DMC4--but can it do it at 60fps? The difference may not come down to graphics this generation--but simply image quality and performance..which, imo, is equally important. It's a bit too early to say if this will truely be an issue--but in this coming year we'll learn quite a bit--about averages, about performance. It's really a bit too early to make any bold claims about either platform.
I see you're not impressed at all with the PS3 yet--but I honestly think at this point in time it's winning the war of averages--and that's a big freaking deal too. Not to mention the war of games--there's over 160 titles announced for the PS3 thus far--and of those, many of them are original releases developed either for the PS3 or 360 and ported--barely a thing in site that's a transition from last generation. RR7 may look just like RR6 in screenshots--but it's also 1080p/60fps--with much better IQ and lighting--it's may not be mindblowingly impressive..but it's still winning thus far when it comes down to game performance.
What will really be interesting is to see how multiplatform titles turn out on each platform--there's going to be a LOT of multiplatform games this generation..should be interesting.
Sure--it may be because the 360 hasn't too many titles directly developed for it yet--but that's just an excuse, really..if Microsoft doesn't want crap (and it is crap) like Just Cause tainting the systems image--then they should keep that crap away from the shelves.
No more ports--that's the only answer.
EDIT: Just wanted to add that Lair isn't exactly one of my most anticipated games either--this does look sorta "meh" compared to other upcoming games on both platforms--but it's still got some time left in it--and the Dragon shooter genre needs more entries :)
For me, PS3 is all about Ridge Racer, Ninja Gaiden, and Virtua Fighter. I'll be picking mine up 2H 2007, probably..and by then some things should be far more clear. Oh...and DMC :)
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Commented on 2006-09-30 17:38:10 In reply to mojibahttp://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=85...
That's not the only game either.