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its a good game no doubt but i found the multiplayer quite tedious and chunkky i got it early tho there werent many on live obviously for that reason so i returned it after 5 days tho it was worth playing, its just not worth keeping in my eyes for the long term :)

the game was just released 5 days ago ...

the gameplay is solid, they have some really nice and new ideas going on. But on the technical side, it stutters quite often.

But I don't think it's the fault of the Doom3 Engine, in fact - it should run quite smooth on 360 . . ... it's just another bad PC port, that's all. . .. . . not optimized for 360. .. . .

Better Doom3 engine-examples in the future will hopefully be Carmack's Wolfenstein and Quake Wars, I guess . . ..

greetz from Vienna

If you don't wanna go bye-bye, please try to write correctly.

Actually the "stock" Doom 3 engine is about as unoptimized as it could be for the 360 architecture. It makes some very heavy usage of the branch prediction features of all the moderns x86 processors, something both the 360 and PS3 CPUs are lacking. Carmack certainly had time to rewrite a lot of the engine for Wolfenstein since Doom 3 has been released, but that would have been very difficult to do for an engine licensee like Raven or Humanhead.

you're right about the stock engine, but after all it's sad, because it could have been so much better if they had the time to optimize it . . ...

It is total ground-up built engine for Wolfenstein. This is what he said during the interview(Wolfenstein announcement video).

I'm not going to sugar coat anything about this game. I knew from the beginning that this game was overly hyped from day one. The effects look like they could have been done on the Xbox. The framerate is horrible, and I think there was no excuse for it. The developers knew that this game was late, and that building hype would obviously produce sales. I have seen so many other games that make this game pale in comparison. It took them how many years to develop this game......?? I'm sorry, but this game was awful. Do away with the DOOM 3 Engine. Nobody cares anymore. What good is having all this power with no talent to harness it. Geesh :(

was that really necessary?

I don´t like the game. Bad graphics, bad syncronisation, i also dislike the character.

i played it now s.th. about 1 hour... it´s sooooo boring, praphics, sounds is all okay, but it is just soo borung ...
hm, could be such a good game

the demo didnt make me want to buy the game, it was a nice demo but it was missing i dont know somethings. the multiplayer also had horrible lag and wasnt even playeble.
the framerate i dont really minded (got used to in Quake 4) but it was to scripted and linear even the demo had that problem.

so i am going to wait for this game to be a discount item.

I rented and beat the game over the past weekend. The game's framerate held up strong throughout the whole singler player game. I honestly didn't see one part where it *chugged* at all. The single player was linear and fun but I can't see myself wanting to play it over again. I played a bit of the multiplayer and fortunately experienced no lag. However I did notice that in about 1/4 of the games I played one idiot would run around with wrench smacking people and doing 1 or 2 shot kills and that was quite cheap.
Overall this game was alot of fun and a great rental , the graphics were very nice and smooth for moi.

Also wanted to mention this game definately isn't only 6 hours to play through the single player mode. Maybe if you rush and avoid the enemies and just try to sprint through the levels you may beat the game in 6 hours. It took me around 10-12 hours to beat.

Wow, looks WAAAY better than it does on my PC. Nice.

Yea, no one is talking about framerate dips anymore, so ...

BTW, Venom wrote completely fresh code for this game, independently from quake4 engine.

My only complaint on this game is the A.I., it's not the greatest in the world but there are some pretty unique enemies in there. MP is fun, all out frag fest but with someone of the trippy gravity and portal elements like in the SP mode.