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Since 7436 Days

Good long and honest EGM podcast with Dennis Dyack and the 1UP guys.

http://download.gamevideos.com/Podcasts/EGM/022508...

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KORNdog

Since 6980 Days

Posted by Sath

No other player will look the same, play the same.

But I wouldnt say Mass Effect has deep character customization though, it was alot, but still limited at some parts.

Too Human has tons of more customization in the weapons, armor department that its just crazy, not only that but also through DLC there will be more.

You can't compare Mass Effect to Too Human, the gameplay is way different.

Besides, I don't think Dyack want to "top" Mass Effect because its a different type game.

I would like to say Too Human is more like Hellgate: London, aside from the first person view in that game and heavy weapon customization.

TBH i see them both as action RPG's since thats what they both are. they may differ slightly in terms of their core mechanics, but at the end of the day they both have real time combat with RPG customisation and an in-depth story. for me their about as comparable as you can get. only one has really mediocre looking combat.

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GriftGFX

Since 7576 Days

I definitely think customization in Mass Effect was very tame when even compared to KOTOR, let alone some of Bioware's other RPG's. The comparison is very valid, despite the games different goals.

Posted by Sath

I would like to say Too Human is more like Hellgate: London, aside from the first person view in that game and heavy weapon customization.

That's actually a pretty apt association. Hellgate: London also has a third person view (all melee combat, which probably accounts for most of the game, is third person) and a huge variety of weapons and a very deep item customization system.. maybe more complex/deeper than Too Human's.

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Sath

Since 7442 Days

Posted by KORNdog

only one has really mediocre looking combat.

Is it Mass Effect? :P
Just joking :)

Posted by GriftGFX

From the gameplay videos of Hellgate London I have seen it reminds me of Too Human at some point. I haven't played it or paid so much attention to that game, but that is just what I see.

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dcdelgado

Since 7436 Days

As i stated before you are just a passenger for the Too Human story, you have no direct interaction with how the stroy plays out or direct interaction and squad members or npcs, you have no say in how the story plays out. In Mass Effect you take part in the story, make decisions that change how the game plays out, and npc's see and react to you, you can also talk to your squad and npc's and explore the lives and backstories, you play your character how you wish to play him badass / kind or any variant in between. Too Human story pulls you along much like COD4 as a rails experience.

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blmbox

Since 6907 Days

I don't think there's anything wrong with that dcdelgado.

I thought the story of COD4 was brilliant. It's important to point out that if the story is compelling and intriguing, a 'rails experience' isn't such a bad thing at all.

Hopefully the story of Too Human will be of the same experience as Bioshock, COD4 etc.

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GriftGFX

Since 7576 Days

Posted by dcdelgado

As i stated before you are just a passenger for the Too Human story, you have no direct interaction with how the stroy plays out or direct interaction and squad members or npcs, you have no say in how the story plays out. In Mass Effect you take part in the story, make decisions that change how the game plays out, and npc's see and react to you, you can also talk to your squad and npc's and explore the lives and backstories, you play your character how you wish to play him badass / kind or any variant in between. Too Human story pulls you along much like COD4 as a rails experience.

Plenty of RPG's have linear stories though.. they're still both action RPG's and one of the fundamental parts of an RPG is customization.. and area where Bioware gave us a pretty light load.

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dcdelgado

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GRIFT:

I disagree i found the customization in Mass Effect very deep, for me the most important rpg aspect is story interaction, this is why Kotor1/2 and Mass Effect and oblivion are my fav rpg's.

Posted by blmbox

I don't think there's anything wrong with that dcdelgado.

I thought the story of COD4 was brilliant. It's important to point out that if the story is compelling and intriguing, a 'rails experience' isn't such a bad thing at all.

Hopefully the story of Too Human will be of the same experience as Bioshock, COD4 etc.

At no point did i say a rails experience is a bad thing, i love those type of games also, when the story is great.

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TheBeagle

Since 7181 Days

From videos, Too Human looks nothing like Hellgate. Hellgate has an extremely lame story with mind numbingly boring combat. The combat in Too Human actually looks pretty decent and at least involving. Hellgate tricks you into thinking that you are participating in real-time combat when you really aren't.

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Sath

Since 7442 Days

Then it's just me :S

Ah well.

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Jollipop

Since 7459 Days

No TH is more like KUF:COD, expect you have better customization and it has a much better story.

Its a shame the character customization, ie the look & sex of the character isn't changable in this game though, I think ME is the best example of that I have seen in a game to date.

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GriftGFX

Since 7576 Days

Posted by TheBeagle

From videos, Too Human looks nothing like Hellgate. Hellgate has an extremely lame story with mind numbingly boring combat. The combat in Too Human actually looks pretty decent and at least involving. Hellgate tricks you into thinking that you are participating in real-time combat when you really aren't.

The principals are the same. They're calling this the new Diablo in Gamepro--which is exactly what Hellgate: London intended to be.

I disagree i found the customization in Mass Effect very deep, for me the most important rpg aspect is story interaction, this is why Kotor1/2 and Mass Effect and oblivion are my fav rpg's.

You can disagree all you want, but customization is one of Bioware's "four pillars" of game design, and compared to their other RPG's it's pretty light on customization, especially when it comes to item variety and upgrade paths. If you love KOTOR and ME, you should really consider giving some of Bioware's older RPG's a try. You'd probably enjoy them a great deal.

The point, I think, was that both ME and Too Human are action RPG's, and in that sense I think the comparisons are totally valid. I wouldn't say that Too Human is "what Mass Effect should have been," but it certainly aims to push one of those pillars further than ME, even if it is at the expense of another.

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[quote=TheBeagle]From videos, Too Human looks nothing like Hellgate. Hellgate has an extremely lame story with mind numbingly boring combat. The combat in Too Human actually looks pretty decent and at least involving. Hellgate tricks you into thinking that you are participating in real-time combat when you really aren't.[/quote]

The principals are the same.  They're calling this the new Diablo in Gamepro--which is exactly what Hellgate: London intended to be.

[quote]I disagree i found the customization in Mass Effect very deep, for me the most important rpg aspect is story interaction, this is why Kotor1/2 and Mass Effect and oblivion are my fav rpg's.[/quote]

You can disagree all you want, but customization is one of Bioware's "four pillars" of game design, and compared to their other RPG's it's pretty light on customization, especially when it comes to item variety and upgrade paths.  If you love KOTOR and ME, you should really consider giving some of Bioware's older RPG's a try.  You'd probably enjoy them a great deal.

The point, I think, was that both ME and Too Human are action RPG's, and in that sense I think the comparisons are totally valid.  I wouldn't say that Too Human is "what Mass Effect should have been," but it certainly aims to push one of those pillars further than ME, even if it is at the expense of another.

ACEfromRussia

Since 7132 Days

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dcdelgado

Since 7436 Days

And i'll continue to disagree, as i and some gameing sites that reviewed Mass Effect agree that the overall customization was deep, could it have been deeper of course, but so could oblivion and other next-ger rpg's out there.

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kenshin2418

Since 7551 Days

Posted by Jollipop

No TH is more like KUF:COD, expect you have better customization and it has a much better story.

pretty much what I've always used as a comparison, at least as far as current console games goes.

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Sath

Since 7442 Days

New video
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31138.html

This video bored me.

Either the player sucks ass with the analog, or the character is like level 1, or it's just the way it is.

My theory, option 1 or 2.

The other videos looked more interesting and better compared to this.

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KORNdog

Since 6980 Days

Posted by Sath

New video
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31138.html

This video bored me.

Either the player sucks ass with the analog, or the character is like level 1, or it's just the way it is.

My theory, option 1 or 2.

The other videos looked more interesting and better compared to this.

my theory, option 3....i'm yet to see a vid where combat looks anything close to decent.

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ACEfromRussia

Since 7132 Days

level 1 in the HUD
U can see it in the left side of the screen. in the end of this video char level up to level 2 and start fighting more advance

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dcdelgado

Since 7436 Days

A mix of both i would say, because its obvious whoever was playing in that video has just picked up the controller and played for the very first time (or he's just crap :) ), plus at level one you have very few combat moves.

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Sath

Since 7442 Days

Posted by KORNdog

my theory, option 3....i'm yet to see a vid where combat looks anything close to decent.

Well that is you, so option 3 for you then.

Posted by ACEfromRussia

level 1 in the HUD
U can see it in the left side of the screen. in the end of this video char level up to level 2 and start fighting more advance

Haha didn't pay so much attention...so it was option 2...low level character, no wonder it was a pain to watch :P

Edit: What DC said.

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KORNdog

Since 6980 Days

Well that is you, so option 3 for you then

of course its me, i wouldnt have said it if it wasnt...lol

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Sath

Since 7442 Days

Posted by KORNdog

Well that is you, so option 3 for you then

of course its me, i wouldnt have said it if it wasnt...lol

hehe

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Phaethon360

Since 7422 Days

Posted by Sath

New video
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31138.html

Wow. Worse video I think I've seen of this game since E3 06. That horrible combat combined with that annoying music just pushed me to my limit of disappointment.

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dcdelgado

Since 7436 Days

Posted by Phaethon360

Wow. Worse video I think I've seen of this game since E3 06. That horrible combat combined with that annoying music just pushed me to my limit of disappointment.

The guy/gal playing is of your gaming skill level ;p

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