As long as it plays amazingly, I don't need groundbreaking animation. Considering the type of game this is, I'll give it a bit of leeway in the area of certain animations, as long as it isn't downright embarrassing. I wouldn't say what I've seen thus far is embarrassing.

That's true. Best to wait and see what they're doing.

The problem with having "great" animation that looks believable is that you have to sacrifice playability. In life you can't just change direction on the spot- which would add "frames" and gamers would throw a fit as usual. There is a balance though- Battlefield 3 pretty much nailed it, IMO- LOVE their animation system. Crysis does a decent job too. I don't mind having to plan my steps though, as that is gameplay in itself, even if most people don't see it that way.

Bungie has traditionally had pretty crappy animation on humans(Reach being a big step up, though).

I still think Grift gives Halo 4 so much grief because he is mainly an MP guy. OP (and myself) put SP over MP in Halo's case. I Love Halo CE, but 4 is just better, imo...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQUQcAzAi3k#t=0m13s :p

lol

Well Bungie have always been avg in graphics and animation, but their gameplay\AI ect.. has been excellent!, so i have hope for this MMOish game but will need to see much much more, as for Halo 4 i have to agree, i enjoyed the campaign more than any other Halo campaign i've played.

I don't know, I thought it was much more than just cinemas and visuals. That story, particularly with regards to Master Chief and Cortana's characters, was handled better than I've seen in any previous Halo title. You don't have character development as strong as what's present in Halo 4 in other Halo games. I haven't seen it.

Watching Cortana struggle as she did while still trying to be useful to the Chief right down to the very last minute, while at the same time watching how the Chief tries to handle and come to grips with it all, in the process showing that he was much more than just the brilliant soldier that we all knew, but also a real human being with real feelings. We saw a side of the Chief that we've never quite seen before. Halo 4 dug deeper into the Master Chief. It made all the unbelievable stuff he did even more amazing, because you felt like you knew the man better. It's the entirety of what Halo 4 does, even the scene when Master Chief was telling that scientist that that all that she had been dedicating her life to, all the groundbreaking work she had been doing, had to be destroyed. You practically watch as the life drains from her face. You saw the Chief in many different lights in this game.

It was awesome watching the balancing act that was his duty to humanity and his duty to his closest friend, Cortana. Halo 4 is far from a corridor romp. That's too simple a classification. The game had all kinds of combat in a variety of locations, big, medium and small. However, I like that the game, true to Halo CE, understands that there are times when combat is best when in smaller locations, more focused locations. Some of the most memorable parts of Halo CE are actually enclosed, smaller fights, like on the pillar of autumn, or inside the covenant ship to try and rescue keyes. Even the night level leading to getting on the ship, it's all very tightly focused and not as wide open as you might think, like parts of Halo 4. Halo 4 is the spiritual successor to Halo CE in a way that no Halo game has been since. Gameplay was awesome, it had the best balance and variety of weapons in the franchise. The pacing was incredible. It had plenty for fanatics like myself who enjoy the books. The Didact was awesome and gave the Chief a true rival, not a pseudo rival. The Chief was up against a true legendary soldier like himself.

One weakness of Halo when It came to the 360, is that there was this feeling that every battle needed to be huge, but that isn't always the right way to go. The effort to make every battle larger and larger sometimes worked against the better interest of those gamaes. Well, just my opinion.

I disagree. I go back and play HALO CE all the time. 4 doesn't have as open levels, but there are some decently large ones, and the gameplay is still faboo. CE had a pretty big share of corridoors as well. Spartan Ops really shows it imo. I don't play co-op much, but SPOPS is just pure gameplay for me( combat gameplay, anyway).

I Definitely agree that they dropped the Ball with MP, even though there is still much fun to be had...

I regularly compliment the gameplay aspects, too, but I think you disagree with those, too. :)

I had actually prepared a much longer post with actual examples, but then I thought to myself that it probably isn't worth it. I don't believe even you truly believe a lot of the things that you say about Halo 4. I believe you genuinely dislike what was done to the multiplayer, and, as such, unfairly take it out on the singleplayer. Gameplay, in many ways, is enhanced by story, and can be dragged down by story. They are not disconnected.

A big part of Halo is also the EXPERIENCE. It's a big part of what made Halo CE so damn good. Most of Halo 4's most stunning sights do not take place in "overproduced cinemas," they take place in actual, live gameplay. There were so many epic gameplay moments in this game that to even entertain the notion that the game somehow removed all sense of that is just not true. How anyone could look at some of the insane battles or vehicle based combat sections in this game and claim that all sense of Halo's epic battlefields has been removed, is nuts.

Let's continue to compare game play elements that are an entire generation apart

Halo 4 pew pew > Halo Ce :D

god damn it your Opinion gets on my tits :D

lol. It's a quicker way of making my argument without the post being too long :P

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2029986/bungie-coo-...And here I was beginning to lose hope of there being a singleplayer story. Then again, story and actors can also just as easily mean quests and npc voices, but this gives me hope. What also jumped out at me was the following.Some pretty big names there. Gets me thinking Halo style action shooter with a mix between traditional fps and Skyrim style methods of story progression, where you can also run into different players at almost anytime. Either way, damn ambitious.

Still getting huge mass effect in FPS vibe..

Least EA is not the publisher, christ imagine if them or acti...aww shit.

lol.

Mass Halo or Halo Effect.

There is already "mass halo" and when halo games are about to launch you have seen the "halo effect" on customers (or is that more the dew effect..)

Anyway Mass effect meeting Halo meeting "large open(ish) worlds" is not a bad thing :D

Halo CE campaign = Halo 4 > Halo 3 >>> Halo 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halo ReachYou cant be serious. Then again, you thought Reach was had better MP which pretty much says it all.

reach had better MP than 4.. thats pretty much a given..