NeoNemesis
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http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/242938.aspx
I hold in my hand the July issue of Gamepro.

I have the Units.
I have the Factions.
I have new screenshots we haven't seen yet.

Keep in mind that this information IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. And by God, I hope some of it does. I have to say, Ensemble, that you are doing a good job on one hand, and have PLENTY to work on. My pointers below in the list of units.

UNSC UNITS:

Marines: As we know, these are shipped in squads. Due to the lower resolution of some of the pictures, they seem to have heavy armor and helmets. Think ODST-grade. The Grenade ability is activated by tapping a 'secondary attack' button on the controller.

Known upgrades: Rocket launchers, Squad Medic.

Flamethrower Marines: A variant on the Marines, but a separate unit. Imagine the Firebat from StarCraft.

Known upgrades: Improved damage + defense.

Spartans: Misidentified in Gamepro as having Mk I MJOLNIR armor. Shield less, but heal fast. Can be wiped out if not used correctly. Said to carry SMGs.

Known upgrades: Dual Wielding has been discussed.

Warthog: Running into enemies is a secondary attack, ala the Marine's grenades.

Known Upgrades: Chaingun turret, Gauss Gun turret, Passengers.

Scorpion: Heavily armored, difficulty in tracking fast units.

Known Upgrades: Explosive shells, faster turret, Grizzly Variant (Double barreled cannon, flamethrower defense, UNSC Corps faction only.)

Cobra: Rocket artillery, anti-vehicle. Think of the Katyuska Rocket Artillery.

Hornet: Its in. It's an early air unit, possibly a weak one.

Wolverine: Still in. Anti-aircraft, anti-building.

Elephant: A prototype to the Elephant we all know and love, it can train Marines from a stationary position and attack nearby enemies with turrets. Fielded only by the UNSC Fleet faction

Cyclops: A ripoff of the Cyclops unit in Age of Mythology, a 'Gigantic bipedal mech" that levels enemy structures with blows from its arms. Come on, Ensemble, I thought y'all were smarter than this. Deployed by the UNSC Corps faction.

Vulture: Deployed by the UNSC Fleet faction, its a slow gunship that seems to have taken the role of the Sparrowhawk.

Factions: There has been much speculation as to how the factions would be implemented, and whether Halo Wars would need more factions like the Flood. However, it seems that ES is splitting the UNSC into Fleet and Corps factions. There is no word as of the Covenant. In my humble opinion, Fleet should be Army. In addition, I would like to point out that I predicted that they would do this on several occasions.

As for Sentinels... they're in. As Multiplayer only. And they ain't going to be a faction either. No, there will be factories which you can capture and control Sentinels as mercenaries. Make sure that your enemy doesn't take your factory from you though.
Game Time

Some people have been concerned about rush, well don't panic. According to Game Pro, you'll be able to "prepare a powerful assault in less than one minute."

UNSC Units (not all units from the game are listed in the magazine)

This has been posted by Rasq'uire'laskar here.

For the record, the reporter said he liked the cyclops, so let's not jump to quick conclusions.

Marines: ARs (can upgrade to rocket or medic).

Flamethrower Marines

Warthog: You can add passengers.

Scorpion: Well... it's a tank (can upgrade to double barrel).

Cobra: Anit-Vehicle rockets and long range artillery.

Hornet: Light aircraft. Can add passengers.

Wolverine: Anti-Air.

Elephant: Mobile barracks (can train marines).

Cyclops: Mech.

Vulture: Heavy gunship.

Covy Units (not all units from the game are listed in the magazine)

Grunts: The very definition of "cannon fodder." Often armed with needlers. Good against low-level infantry.

Hunters: In paris with fuelrod cannons.

Banshee: Lightweight aircraft.

Jackles: Snipers and scouts.

Ghost: Effective counter to warthogs and marines, but weak against scorpion tanks.

Scarab: Enough said. MAC will kill it (yes, they said MAC).

Elites: Roughly equivilant to spartans.

Controls

Left Bumper: Select all squads on screen (may change in final version).

Left Bumper x2: Select all squads on the map (also may change).

Left Trigger: Moves camera fast.

Directional Pad: Jump to ares off screen.

Left Stick: Move camera.

Right Trigger: Modify (like making waypoints).

Right Bumper: Cycle through groups of units in current selection (may change in final version).

A: Select individual squad (hold to 'paint').

B: Cancel selection.

X: Move/gather/primary attack.

Y: Secondary attack (grenades, drive over infantry).

Right Stick: Rotate/zoom camera.

Back: Objectives.

Start: Ingame menu and options.

Spartans

MC may or may not be in the game, but is alive durring this period.

Powerful, but not unstopable.

You have to 'earn' them, but it doesn't take long.

Marines respond with oos and awws.

No shields!

They'll be one of the coolest things in the game.

Setting

Variety of alien and human worlds. Not just Harvest.

Rings will likely be maps in multiplayer, but will NOT be incampaign.

Warthogs

This may answer the whole, 'why does it have not turret?' quesion if it hasn't already been answered.

You can upgrade the turrets on the warthog (probably empty, machinegun, and guass).

Multiplayer

Final version is expected to support up to 6 players over Xbox Live!!

Online cooperative (2 players).

Other

No release date (assumed 2nd half of 2008)

Not on PC... ever.
http://www.halowars.com/forums/thread/243900.aspx
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

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GrimThorne
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Thank you Neo.

Right off the top, the one thing I was always concerned with was how do you get Spartans? I don't want to have to harvest things to get one so "earning" them through the campaign's progression seems like a fair trade off, especially when you consider that Halo Wars is an RTS.

The controls sound good, but this is the sort of thing we will only be able to judge for ourselves with the controller in our hands.

But even as I'm sure Ensemble will have the controls working well, I am a bit puzzled by Microsoft Game Studios. They have the perfect controller add-on in the messenger keypad and they won't admonish developers to use it. We also have Sid's Civ:Revolution coming to the 360, why won't they allow this great add on for those RTS and TBS games that are coming to the consoles?
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NeoNemesis
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Posté par GrimThorne
Thank you Neo.
Your welcome.:D
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

NeoNemesis
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New in-game screenshots:





Details and more pics at: http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=189808
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

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More shots:





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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

Archaos
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Awesome

Can't wait to play this! I hope she plays as good as she looks!
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NeoNemesis
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Posté par Archaos
Awesome

Can't wait to play this! I hope she plays as good as she looks!
It'll be great! :D
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

NeoNemesis
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OMG, this game will have co-op for single player. Awesome!

Link:
http://kotaku.com/5014829/halo-wars-gets-two+playe...
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

Archaos
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Hells yeah! Hi five! :D
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Jin187
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Looks AWESOME!
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docLEXfisti
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looks a bit too good to be true ... where's the catch?
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the only tyrant I accept is my inner voice [and my two kids ;)]

Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
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You know how long it took me to post in this thread. I was staring at your avatar for God knows how long. And yes, I too am looking for the catch.
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Hey, I'm just like you. I put my pants on one leg at a - dammit, I knew I forgot something today.

alimokrane
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I HATE that this game is getting all this attention just because it's HALO when there are BRILLIANT RTS games out there ................
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Archaos
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Happens with lots of games dude. Mario, Final Fantasy..

Besides the game looks great, it's not like the attention is misguided. It does look like it'll be a great RTS. Plus it's not like we're ignoring the other RTSs out there.
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Jin187
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Posté par alimokrane
I HATE that this game is getting all this attention just because it's HALO when there are BRILLIANT RTS games out there ................
Do you not think its also because the game looks pretty damn good?
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TheBeagle
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Plus, it's being developed by Ensemble Studios...
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Yea there's plenty of reason for this to get attention, especially on consoles, since it's being developed from the ground up for gamepad players and games like WIC, Red Alert 3 etc will all play best on the PC. Ensemble rocks.
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alimokrane
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Posté par GriftGFX
Yea there's plenty of reason for this to get attention, especially on consoles, since it's being developed from the ground up for gamepad players and games like WIC, Red Alert 3 etc will all play best on the PC. Ensemble rocks.
That's what I mean, I personally dont see the WOWs of it all. There are Brilliant RTS games out there especially on PC and unfortunately they never sell well and I just hate that this is getting all this attention because it's HALO - it may be a brilliant game but I am sure a huge percentage of people will buy it just because it's Halo.
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TheBeagle
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I think it's hard to predict sales of this thing. It's unlikely that it will come anywhere near to Halo 3 sales, but as you said, it will sell a lot of copies on the Halo brand name alone. I really don't see how this is a problem though. It will bring a lot of people into the RTS genre and they might then go and explore other titles.

If this plays anything like Company of Heroes, I will be all over it.
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Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Has it been five years? Six? It seems like a lifetime.

UrukHaiPT
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Posté par alimokrane
That's what I mean, I personally dont see the WOWs of it all. There are Brilliant RTS games out there especially on PC and unfortunately they never sell well and I just hate that this is getting all this attention because it's HALO - it may be a brilliant game but I am sure a huge percentage of people will buy it just because it's Halo.
Theres plenty RTS and good ones on PC, but this is getting attention not only because its Halo. Its being built for the consoles, and not being ported like others RTS, so theres lot attention here, in how its going to play etc :p

And as Grift said, its Ensemble we are talking about, so im really looking forward to this, and i dont even like Halo much :D
And if it plays well might be first RTS i play on consoles :)
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NeoNemesis
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Posté par TheBeagle
Plus, it's being developed by Ensemble Studios...
Age of Empire ftw.
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

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NeoNemesis
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Halo Wars will ship "when it's ready"

http://www.halowarsaddict.com/HWA_Exclusive_Interv...
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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

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szaromir
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And based on a hands-on opinion I've heard it's faaaaaaaaar from ready. Hopefully Microsoft we'll give it time even up to Fall 09 if needed.
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I have it on good authority that pending major disaster, Halo Wars has every intention of releasing in 2008.

Most of this stems from it's lack of appearance at MS gamers day a few weeks ago, the build simply wasn't ready. But it will be ready at E3.
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NeoNemesis
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I have it on good authority that pending major disaster, Halo Wars has every intention of releasing in 2008.

Most of this stems from it's lack of appearance at MS gamers day a few weeks ago, the build simply wasn't ready. But it will be ready at E3.
Can't wait to see it.
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