still trying to convince people that fable 2 looks amazing technically...ok, i'll leave you to your deluded fantasies. but this doesnt come anywhere close to the likes of killzone 2, gears of war 2, and resi 5. hell, it doesnt even come close to the likes of uncharted. but then considering its scale its understandable it'd have low res textures everywhere and LOD issues out the wasoo. not every game can look as pretty as gears, Kz or resi 5....but to say fable 2 is comparable to crysis....LMAO, thats just plain rediculius. but as i said, i'll leave you to whatever deluded fantasies you wish to have.


as for baleur, im not arguing with that, as i said multiple times, artistically fable 2 is AMAZING, and it helps you forget the technical shortcomings, but just becasue its good doesnt mean those technical shortcoming dont exist.

as for your analogies, they make no sence. take the painting example for instance. what im saying would be the equivilent of a person with huge artistic tellent creating a painting with no meaning or soul. same for you music example and even the book example. a book can be well written, but not have a good story. those are better anologies of what im trying to say.

also, no, art style ISNT everything. if you dont have at least a competant technical side to a game you have something that performs terribly, and looks terrible, no matter how stylised that house may be, if its a jagged, low resolution mess (not what fable 2 is btw) its going to take away from the overall experience. take mass effect...an amazing vision of the future and space exploration, but that texture pop in was distracting as hell) a lot of games today manage to balance to 2. fable 2 however gets an A* in style, but only a pass in the technical aspects.

but i agree with your closing comment. i too would rather look at fable 2 then crysis, but thats becasue crysis has no style at all, its striving for realism. its trying to replicate reality. fable has more visual interest...but that doesnt mean fable 2 is a better or even comparable looking game. it just means it has a more interesting art style, which i've been saying since the begining, its the technical side of the visuals where it faulters, i dont see how anyone can deny that.

Sorry, but Killzone 2 has not even got a tree around, and tiny spaces, and the lighting is far better in Fable 2, so more detail, bigger spaces and better lighting make it far better technically than KZ2

And has far better textures on top

As for Uncharted, i take that as a joke, Uncharted is generations behind Fable 2 in every way, the scale of the thing is totally last gen

Low textures everywhere ? You wish, that pic alone makes Uncharted look a old, and this is a free roaming game too, not paths



Last but not least i meantioned each and every aspect of the brilliance of Fable 2 engine

- huge detail
- real forests, not paths
- huge number of trees around in a huge scale
- shadows from each leaf to everything around, from all trees around in huge forests
- translucency in tree leaves
- great textures
- huge visibility
- huge cities, no loading in houses
- dynamic shadowed light beams
- 50+ self shadowed NPC's around
etc

So, you either have something to counter the above or not

You have no arguments, so even if you write 100 pages, will mean nothing

labwarrior, you are ridiculous.I was already loling...but then progressed to rofling when i read that.

I'm sure this is a good game and all but graphicly it really fails to impress and after release i won't be surprised if we end up finding out it's running at a sub-720p resolution. I suppose the artstyle is ok-ish but to be quite frank it's nothing new and has been done better before. Trying to claim this as a technical marvel is just well... madness. I'll be sticking to Gears 2, i was expecting some new improved graphics in these screenshots but the game just disappoints more and more really.

This doesn't matter to me. Other games have been released at less than 720p, and they've still looked fantastic.In what?I actually agree with this.Have you not seen it in motion? It's a good-looking game.

labwarrior please stop posting large files. Thank you.

labwarrior, I could post pics of real life and you'd still say Fable 2 looks better.

There's actually no point in arguing with you as arguing with someone who thinks their invalid points have merit is useless.

Until someone here says why Fable 2 is not technically amazing, and counter my points one by one, you understand that is just trolling, right ?

Your opinion does not hold some special importance you know, you have to back it up, or it means nothing


Here it is again, try more

- huge detail
- real forests, not paths
- huge number of trees around in a huge scale
- shadows from each leaf to everything around, from all trees around in huge forests
- translucency in tree leaves
- great textures
- huge visibility
- huge cities, no loading in houses
- dynamic shadowed light beams
- 50+ self shadowed NPC's around

It is one of the best and most cutting edge engines right now, if you want to say i am wrong, just mention why you think it is not, and how all my points above are false

Otherwise you can only make me laugh with your desparate and ignorant comments

I don't know why this is still going on. We all know by now that LW is a huge Fable 2 fan. :p

I'm a huge Fable fan as well, but I have sense enough to know it's not the be all end all of game engine technology.

- killzone 2 and Gears 1 has forests and are free roaming ? Sorry, failed, they do not ahev even 1/10 the detail around, because they are tiny and empty inside levels

- Oblivion forests are last gen though, and they are repeatitive, the lighting in Oblivion is a last gen joke, that is the point, Fable 2 has real forests, more varied, more detailed and with next gen visuals that look leaps and bounds better than Oblivion last gen lightign and last last gen 2d sprite trees of Speedtree

- Oblivion does not have it beat, they are same because of the LOD, and as i said Fable 2 has real 3D trees, with next gen shading and lighting, not last gen flat stuff, and Cryusis is the only thing coming close indeed

- i see you said nothing onthe shadows, nice

- I will gladly show you, here

http://qsf5.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/brightw...

- I did not say textures are better, just that has this huge world and good textures, and shaders everywhere, amkign everything look 3D, especially the ground like below

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/379/aa01111mt6....

- visibility is HUGE, see pics and my gifs or videos, edpends on time of day though, so is not seen everywhere
- cities are vast and free to roam in all houses, huge castles etc

http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/00DA74AC-FB86-4FA...

- yes, god rays everywhere, like those in my gifs i posted, like Crysis ones
- the 50+ NPC's has been confirmed, but you can get any number of NPCs follow you, so you can gather them yourself at any time, even in Fable 1 you could get 50+ NPC's


And i still do not see why i am redicoulous, my points are 100% valid as you see