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Now that the Cloud DVD has been released in Japan, the trailer many RPG fans awaited, yes I am talking about the Final Fantasy XIII one, is finally available for everyone to watch. It was seen for the first time last December on Square-Enix's Mega Theater by a few lucky guys. I'd like to thank Sath for pointing out the download links in our forums. I'd also like to salute the work of Finalfantasy-xiii.net who ripped both trailers (Versus is coming in the next news!)

synce
synce
Commented on 2007-12-15 23:38:06 In reply to starfox14now
God some people are so fucking stupid. It's like they have no idea who Square is. Does anyone besides me remember the "pre-rendered" FF8 tech demo for PS2? FFX actually ended up looking better than it, even though no one believed it could be done.

I mean Christ. It doesn't matter if the gameplay stuff you see in the trailer is real time or a target. It will end up looking better than that in the final product. It's the power of Cell, bitch!
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Drsw36
Drsw36
Commented on 2007-12-15 23:48:52 In reply to synce
Posted by synce
God some people are so fucking stupid. It's like they have no idea who Square is. Does anyone besides me remember the "pre-rendered" FF8 tech demo for PS2? FFX actually ended up looking better than it, even though no one believed it could be done.

I mean Christ. It doesn't matter if the gameplay stuff you see in the trailer is real time or a target. It will end up looking better than that in the final product. It's the power of Cell, bitch!
I agree with you 100%.
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Commented on 2007-12-16 00:15:58
This is full version of E3 2006 closed doors video

in summer 2007 SE said that ff13 is 13% compleate

so it is 100% render
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Dunpeal
Dunpeal
Commented on 2007-12-16 00:17:38
There's like 7 seconds of "realtime" there. It's the gameplay, and the part where she comes down and blows the dudes.

And even then, it's all target, old footage, not to mention it's obvious people don't have a problem with that because graphically it looks very doable, people have a problem because aside from that it's all CG, and it does get tiresome when a dev almost only shows stuff that you don't get to play in the end.
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Lafiel
Lafiel
Commented on 2007-12-16 01:41:17
@ ACEfromRussia )

that "13% complete" was a joke ....

He was asked "how far are FF13 and FF Vs 13 in production ?" and he wouldn't answer and finally said jokingly " FF 13 at 13% , FF VS 13 at 1.3%" , you see what he did there (tip: 13th installment , 13% and 1.3% respectively ..) ?

I think it's quite funny that in your first post you criticise the battle system and in your second you say "it was all renders" , for if it's all renders that means we haven't seen anything of the battle system yet , right?
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jackdoe
jackdoe
Commented on 2007-12-16 02:30:14 In reply to Dunpeal
Posted by Dunpeal
And even then, it's all target, old footage, not to mention it's obvious people don't have a problem with that because graphically it looks very doable, people have a problem because aside from that it's all CG, and it does get tiresome when a dev almost only shows stuff that you don't get to play in the end.
Exactly, the real time footage is very doable, unlike the KZ 2 target render which was obviously CG. And I do agree, I really do want to see some gameplay footage, but you have to bear in mind that these trailers came out months ago. Hopefully at Jump Fiesta they show trailers with gameplay.
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Drsw36
Drsw36
Commented on 2007-12-16 02:34:23 In reply to ACEfromRussia
Posted by ACEfromRussia
This is full version of E3 2006 closed doors video
Wrong, this trailer is from an event called ''Tokyo PlayStation Premiere''.
Posted by ACEfromRussia
so it is 100% render
Wrong again, theres actually 40 seconds of Ingame scenes. Let me show you which one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zzg8cBch4M
Posted by ACEfromRussia
in summer 2007 SE said that ff13 is 13% compleate
And it was confirmed later that it wasn't true. EGM made that one up.
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Splicer261
Splicer261
Commented on 2007-12-16 02:34:59
i always loved final fantasy games, especially for their turn based battle systems

when ff12 hit, as a final fantasy fan i went and bought it, i was skeptical about the battle system, but it worked!

it was a fusion of real time and turn based battle systems

i think ff13 seems to follow the same path, lightning seemed to have cast a time freeze or slow down spell and then attacked them in real time, which is the kind of stuff you could pull off in ff12, issuing commands and attacking

anyway, looks amazing and like all final fantasy games, will deliver on giving out a stunning game, few days ago i popped in ffX to my ps2 and it still looks gorgeous as ever
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Commented on 2007-12-16 03:30:57
Sorry guys but none of this is in game, it is target rendered, the RSX wasn't even complete at the time this trailer was made (let alone the white engine)

I think this game will be awesome, Its my next most wanted game after Cry On now :D and the only reason I own a PS3, but that isn't in game, it is just made to look like it.

Im sure they will get very close to it, if nothing SE know how to make pretty games.
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Commented on 2007-12-16 05:25:02 In reply to Jollipop
Posted by Jollipop
Im sure they will get very close to it, if nothing SE know how to make pretty games.
Yup, pretty much. I don't doubt the game will look like that or at least pretty close to it upon release, but that footage they showed off at E3 '06 was rendered.
Posted by Synce
FFX actually ended up looking better than it, even though no one believed it could be done.
Too bad FFX didn't end up looking as good as the first trailer they showed off of it. Granted it still looked good in the end, but not as good as what was originally shown. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72vckLXI7x4




Still, Final Fantasy XIII is going to own. Haters be damned
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catfish
catfish
Commented on 2007-12-16 12:35:53 In reply to kenshin2418
Posted by kenshin2418
Too bad FFX didn't end up looking as good as the first trailer they showed off of it. Granted it still looked good in the end, but not as good as what was originally shown. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72vckLXI7x4



too bad ffxii looked better than that though.... ffxiii is coming later in the consoles lifespan compared to ffx as well...

Like I said, the devs confirmed in famitsu that the sequence was rendered in real time...however, they didnt get the game up and running on ps3 until this year....so who knows how the game looks...It will look incredible, but some parts of the trailer are hard to take... for instance when the monster shatters the car, or when she is diving from the sky....nothing on consoles looks near that good to me
Still, Final Fantasy XIII is going to own. Haters be damned
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ACEfromRussia
ACEfromRussia
Commented on 2007-12-16 12:41:54 In reply to Lafiel
Posted by Lafiel
@ ACEfromRussia )

that "13% complete" was a joke ....

He was asked "how far are FF13 and FF Vs 13 in production ?" and he wouldn't answer and finally said jokingly " FF 13 at 13% , FF VS 13 at 1.3%" , you see what he did there (tip: 13th installment , 13% and 1.3% respectively ..) ?

I think it's quite funny that in your first post you criticise the battle system and in your second you say "it was all renders" , for if it's all renders that means we haven't seen anything of the battle system yet , right?
Really? do You have any proof, preference may be...

in this video - no tears - only action - this is why i said this is looks like action game
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Haseo
Haseo
Commented on 2007-12-16 15:10:07
Meh Final Fantasy has had it's day
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Drsw36
Drsw36
Commented on 2007-12-16 23:29:28
From the part of the trailer where you see cars moving at 0:24 all the way to when Lightning is shooting enemies upside down and mid-air at 1:04 is all in-game and running off the White Engine. Why is it that hard to believe? We're tlaking about SE,PS3 & the White Engine here.

Read infomation about the white engine and you'll see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Engine
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MugiMugi
MugiMugi
Commented on 2007-12-17 02:01:14
An graphic engine have nothing to do with it being real time or not, all engines' RENDER' a scene no mater what speed, Insert Any 3D app and they will yes, render it in 'realitime as well'. So no doubht that thing may be rendered but realtime ? Doubhtfull. Just look at the detail of the hair and the movments, I yet have to see anything handle that at this day, not to mention the hair looks like it's been full rendered out of Somftimage XSI in those sceens ( yes this is the 3D app Square enix been used for ages )
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JediMasterMalik
JediMasterMalik
Commented on 2007-12-17 02:22:49
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Hrimthur
Hrimthur
Commented on 2007-12-17 10:24:15
I allready love the game by now. Seems they got back to turnbased battles?! Back to old fitness? The music is so beautyful, the designs are the best ever seen (imo). A lot of CGI, but it gives price a lot of the game in things style, designs, and a bit of the story (quite little bit), but enough to see that this game will rock!
the 12th title dissapointed me, 'caus of the monotony at the end of the game (didn't finish the game, as first FF ever!!!). I hope this title will bring agsin a story and fantasy of a FF7.
And all your arguments if pre-rendered or not. Square was always the king of CGI, so this is most probably NOT ingame (except the battle part), but who cares? The ingame was never the best grafx in FF-games, and it's not that whats the important. Gameplay, story and athmosphere is what counts!!!!
the king of RPGs is back!
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ronaco
ronaco
Commented on 2007-12-17 18:16:04
well it looks fantastic but I hope the gameplay matches the videos that would be something ....its gonna be a long long wait....
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entecillo
entecillo
Commented on 2007-12-20 10:29:51
Waiting for more infomation about the argument.....
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Drsw36
Drsw36
Commented on 2007-12-21 04:02:41 In reply to entecillo
Posted by entecillo
Waiting for more infomation about the argument.....
What argument? You mean that if its all CG or not? Judge for yourself.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2510/ffcompsy8....

Its really easy to see and people that say that its all CG are totally blind.
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