Our videos of FF Type-0 HD

makenshi1985

Commented on 2015-03-22 13:05:54

I dispute this, people dont realise what an accomplishment this game is when you look at what the psp version looked like. You'd certainly think people wouldnt have had a selective memory given how many comparison trailers they've released so far. So many sites chanting this BS rhetoric 'you can definitely see its psp roots', YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE PS2 ROOTS OF THE KINGDOM HEARTS REMIX GAMES for gods sakes, when the ps4 version of god of war 3 comes out you will be able to see its PS3 roots. This is the stupidiest criticism of what are HD remasters I have ever read. Praise the lighting, praise the solid frame rates, praise the smooth gameplay, praise the story, praise the maturity. Stop pretending this is SUPPOSED to be more than what they promised, because it is already several notches above that anyway.

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Driftwood

Commented on 2015-03-22 13:19:18 In reply to makenshi1985

Easy Tiger. That's not the point. The point is, not that many people will accept such visuals on their PS4/X1 let alone the horrible camera that makes it such a pain to play the first couple of hours. It's no coincidence they decided to give a FFXV demo with it you know, they had to find some incentive to attract players. Maybe they should have gone for a Vita version only, or a mobile one since SE knows how to sell oldies at a very high price on Android or iOS. Now you like the game and you're happy with the result, it's perfectly fine with me, but please cut the crap and stop disrecpecting our work and opinion.

PS: Btw, the PSP roots can also be seen in the very limited level design, it's not just about the visuals you know. :)

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plmko

Commented on 2015-03-22 14:10:09 In reply to Driftwood

Posted by Driftwood

Easy Tiger. That's not the point. The point is, not that many people will accept such visuals on their PS4/X1

I think the point is everyone knows what this game is, and every FF fan has been begging for a Type-0 localisation for years now. And now we got it, the only whingers left are those who ask for the impossible because they don't intend on playing.

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Driftwood

Commented on 2015-03-22 14:17:54 In reply to plmko

Well no, I beg to differ. No everyone knows what this game is. Not everyone was asking for a localization. Believe or not, but we didn't only have hardcore FF fans in mind when we wrote this news article. Now if you can't bear a few understandable criticisms, then just don't read, it's not meant for you in the first place. Everyone points to the boxy environments and crazy camera and it's just normal. It does not make the game any less interesting to play, but it's something people who have not especially been waiting for the port should know. The reason why most players started to be interested in it was the FFXV demo. It may be sad considering the game's strengths, but that's why we've stated what you guys consider obvious. Btw, I don't think I should have to justify any of this to you guys.

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plmko

Commented on 2015-03-22 14:49:41 In reply to Driftwood

Posted by Driftwood

No everyone knows what this game is. Not everyone was asking for a localization.

Well of course not 'everyone' will be asking for that, but everyone who's a target audience for this will. In fact the audience who asked for this was so big the original game on PSP received an unofficial translation. Funny enough SE announced localization plans for this game at a similar time frame to the fan release, coincidence? hmmm...

Posted by Driftwood

"Now if you can't bear a few understandable criticisms"

No one's being an apologist here, but to not be able to challenge criticism is in itself unbearable to me. What could be understandable to you could be unreasonable to others. Don't you think when you use hyperbolic words like 'horrible' 'crazy' or 'ugly' you're going to get some people disagreeing with you?

Never needed to feel like disagreeing with you guys, since I have my own opinion to form on games. But I would think it would be logical that when you write articles that have excited a few, you should expect a few heated responses.

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[quote=Driftwood]No everyone knows what this game is. Not everyone was asking for a localization. [/quote]

Well of course not 'everyone' will be asking for that, but everyone who's a target audience for this will. In fact the audience who asked for this was so big the original game on PSP received an unofficial translation. Funny enough SE announced localization plans for this game at a similar time frame to the fan release, coincidence? hmmm...

[quote=Driftwood]"Now if you can't bear a few understandable criticisms"[/quote]

No one's being an apologist here, but to not be able to challenge criticism is in itself unbearable to me. What could be understandable to you could be unreasonable to others. Don't you think when you use hyperbolic words like 'horrible' 'crazy' or 'ugly' you're going to get some people disagreeing with you?

Never needed to feel like disagreeing with you guys, since I have my own opinion to form on games. But I would think it would be logical that when you write articles that have excited a few, you should expect a few heated responses.

Moonwalker

Commented on 2015-03-23 02:14:59

Going to start with this game this week. I did and seen all there is in the XV demo, so that's done. I hope the PSP roots of this game won't bother me too much.

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Xeviant

Commented on 2015-03-23 04:13:20 In reply to plmko

Honestly, GSY has been a lot more kind than other sites have been. The criticisms they have are very real and for some very deterring. It's a good heads up, but the game has some very rich content in terms of gameplay and story. The shortcomings are a nuisance, but nothing more than that once you get into things. I have been really enjoying the game, but I would agree the camera and motion blur really were annoying at first, but I learned to ignore it eventually. I had no expectation of a refined ps4 masterpiece, and as I said, to me these things are a nuisance, but it's fair and honest of a reviewer to point them out.

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makenshi1985

Commented on 2015-03-23 15:09:08 In reply to Driftwood

People put up with indie titles on their consoles (like ori and the blind forest), i dont see why they wouldn't put up with a HD remaster of a psp title. This game looks lovely, yes I agree that the upgrades should have been uniform rather than just the main character models (it can be jarring), but that doesnt detract from the solid performance of the game, the camera is better than it was on psp. Whether it be level design or character models a comment like 'you can see its psp roots' is redundant, it's a HD upgrade of a psp game. Youre stating the obvious, and it something people who knew it was a psp game WON'T care about

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makenshi1985

Commented on 2015-03-23 21:14:37 In reply to Xeviant

Posted by Xeviant

Honestly, GSY has been a lot more kind than other sites have been. The criticisms they have are very real and for some very deterring. It's a good heads up, but the game has some very rich content in terms of gameplay and story. The shortcomings are a nuisance, but nothing more than that once you get into things. I have been really enjoying the game, but I would agree the camera and motion blur really were annoying at first, but I learned to ignore it eventually. I had no expectation of a refined ps4 masterpiece, and as I said, to me these things are a nuisance, but it's fair and honest of a reviewer to point them out.

that's the thing, they haven't formally reviewed it. It's just a brief descriptive summary, yet does not detail any of the positive aspects of the game. Just one sentence with generalised statements. There so much content in this game (in an age where content is king) that it a grossly inadequate description.

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Tiz

Commented on 2015-03-23 21:21:44 In reply to makenshi1985

Posted by makenshi1985

People put up with indie titles on their consoles (like ori and the blind forest), i dont see why they wouldn't put up with a HD remaster of a psp title.

Ori is a £15.99 title, and Type 0 is something between £44.99 and £54.99. I'm sure the majority of people bought Type 0 to try FFXV, can you blame them?

I think the question you have to ask is whether the content to price ratio justifies the remaster?

I think the criticism is wholly justified.

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