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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2008-12-22 12:46:55

I doubt he'll unleash the 9 tails. All his training would have been for naught if he just goes 9 tails level berserk.

We may not get a new chapter in the upcoming week. There was a double chapter of shonen which means no manga for 2 weeks usually. We'll pretty much have to get lucky and hope that someone leaks the next naruto manga chapter next week.

I'm still stunned at what took place inside Konoha. It's really insane. Imagine Madara and Sasuke's reaction to it? They wanted to destroy Konoha and Madara didn't think they had the necessary power to get it done and Pain goes in there by himself and wrecks konoha something awful.

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szaromir
szaromir
Since 1294 Days

2008-12-22 17:38:21

Naruto probably figured out a way to use natural chakra while moving. He can probably now use his wind sharingan while not self-inflicting so much damage.

I wonder if he's now as powerful as 4th hokage was before he died. This way Naruto vs Pain battle would be the most epic encounter in Narutoverse's history.

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ManicMonkey
ManicMonkey
Since 834 Days

2008-12-22 20:59:35

Power wise, yes. Naruto is probably just as powerful. Skillful in using that power, not a chance. The 4th was feared not because he was uber-powerful but because he was able to use his abilities so well. It's like the difference between hitting someone with a sldegehammer vs stabbing them in the heart.

Ok, maybe not 9 tails, but he will loose his collective $#!%. With his new nature chakra control (even better than J-man's) and that he could control up to 3 tails before (if i remember correctly), Naruto should be able to go up to 3 with total control and 4-5 tails with just some minor ferral attributes. I just really hope Pain doesn't "die" during his fight with Naruto.

Also, could the 9-tails be a physical manifastation of nature chakra. But of a dark type. He is always described as being a force of nature. I just don't like "demon chakra" since we've never seen any supernatural beings besides the tailed beasts.

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2008-12-22 23:37:46 In reply to szaromir (2008-12-22 17:38:21)

Posted by szaromir
Naruto probably figured out a way to use natural chakra while moving. He can probably now use his wind sharingan while not self-inflicting so much damage.

I wonder if he's now as powerful as 4th hokage was before he died. This way Naruto vs Pain battle would be the most epic encounter in Narutoverse's history.
The solution to mobile sage mode is easy. Remember when Naruto was training with the toad oil? He suggested using kage bunshin to accelerate the training. Pa said it's too risky because whatever his clones experience, so does he. So if one of his clones were to turn into a frog, then so would he.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/412/009/ <-- That's the secret to mobile sage mode. It would also fit well into Naruto using Kage Bunshins to find a solution to a complex problem.

That means if Naruto were to create a number of clones, and have a few of them go off and attempt to transform into sage mode on their own. The moment they dispersed, the fact that one or more of them achieved sage mode would affect the real naruto instantly putting him into sage mode. That is how he achieves mobile sage mode. The original can just move around and fight normally while the kage bunshin worry about the process of sage mode. This sorta thing isn't possible for most other shinobi because most other ninja don't have the chakra capacity combined with the sheer stamina to maintain the kage bunshin technique the way naruto does.

I don't know if we'll see the demon fox's cloak in this fight either. If they do show it, they'll have to handle it carefully because they don't want to undermine Naruto's progress. Instead of losing his cool and relying on the power of the 9 tails, he should showcase how far he has come with his own power and make impressive use of the techniques he already has in his arsenal combined with the new ones he was taught to perform from Fukasaku to really take the fight to Pain. He has to also fight an intelligent fight. He appears to have greatly improved his Rasen-Shuriken -- can probably throw it now. It might not even be called the Rasen-Shuriken anymore in it's completed form.

I doubt the 9 tails is physical manifestation of nature chakra, but definitely physical manifestation of an ultimate form of chakra. The 9 tail's chakra is likely in the classification of yin and yang.

During Naruto's Rasen-Shuriken training he asked Kakashi what kind of physical recomposition is involved for things such as genjutsu, medical ninjutsu, shikamaru's shadow technique or chouji's double size techniques. Yamato responded by saying how about we teach naruto about the physical recomposition of yin and yang another time? Kakashi said it would take much too long to explain. It was also confirmed by Jiraiya that the 4th only sealed the "yin" part of the 9 tail's chakra inside the deathgod and the 9 tail's "yang" chakra is what was sealed inside Naruto. The 4th split the 9 tail's chakra into 2 parts specifically so he could leave it for Naruto.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/12/
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/370/13/

The demon fox's cloak might very well be the physical recomposition of the 9 tail's yang chakra that is sealed inside him. It pretty much acts as Naruto's version of Shikamaru's shadow technique and it might even be capable of other things. Remember that black mass of energy he used against Orochimaru? Perhaps that was yet again, the 9 tail's yang chakra.

Naruto is guaranteed to be pissed though, no doubt about that.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2008-12-24 15:53:39

Naruto totaled Demon Realm lmao.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

ManicMonkey
ManicMonkey
Since 834 Days

2008-12-25 00:33:05

Wait.....what? Naruto hasn't fought Demon Realm yet.

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2008-12-25 10:25:44

Demon realm was brought back by Hell realm and was going after a severely weakened tsunade who used all her remaining chakra to save and keep the villagers alive.

Demon realm was going after Tsunade and Naruto smashed him with a single attack. Demon realm is the same one that got tricked by Kakashi's Lightning element Kage Bunshin.

The one whose attack kakashi was forced to try to stop at the last minute with his Mangekyou.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2008-12-25 10:37:20

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

szaromir
szaromir
Since 1294 Days

2008-12-31 00:35:22

That rasengan was so badass.

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2008-12-31 08:13:15

Haha yea Naruto demolished Demon Realm :D

Pa flat out believes that Naruto has surpassed both Jiraiya and the Fourth Hokage. That's incredible.

Naruto, from here on out, will be on an entirely different level. I can't wait to see how incredible Naruto's going to be in this fight. But regardless of how easily Naruto took out Demon Realm, Pain is going to be no easy obstacle to overcome. I'm sure that even after using a technique of that level, Pain is going to be a serious problem.

I didn't believe that Pain showed just how dangerous he could really be in the fight against Jiraiya. We saw mostly basic displays of what the bodies can do and they were mostly used in a defensive capacity to render Jiraiya's efforts meaningless so he was forced to retreat and come up with a game plan.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

ManicMonkey
ManicMonkey
Since 834 Days

2009-01-03 02:14:54

What would happen if Pain is able to capture one of the clones gathering nature chakra?

Also, what ever happened to that scroll toad? Did anyone else WTF when they saw the other 2 giant toads? I thought there was just 1 boss toad.

Naruto is going to have a really hard fight. He is probably still weak to genjutsu and is a poor distance fighter, unless he can toss rasengans now, so I dont see Naruto being able to fight very effectively. Also, why did Demon realm get hit? When Pain fought J-Man, all the bodies were able to block attacks because they could see whatever the others saw. I think Pain is just using his other bodies to test Naruto, like how Naruto does with his shadow clones. With all of Pain's chakra going into God Realm instead of being spread over all of the other realms, Pain should become much more powerful.

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2009-01-03 12:13:28

The other toads have been used before.

The one with the 2 swords is called demolisher toad. Jiraiya summoned him to help stop the sound and sand attack on Konoha.

The one all the way to the left is the one Jiraiys summoned when he was preparing to go into Sage Mode. Gamabunta, is the boss toad, but he clearly knows his superiors are Pa and Ma.

Manic Demon getting hit was no different from Human realm getting kicked in the face at the start of the fight with Jiraiya.




It was a combination of Naruto being way too fast and surprising Pain. Once the fight heated up between Jiraiya and Pain, Jiraiya was no longer able to land such an attack. http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/377/07/

It was confirmed this chapter that Nagato is none of the six bodies. Konan clearly said she was coming to see him. She also said that her paper clone couldn't hold up any longer, which means she had a paper clone active and watching Nagato's real body this entire time. He's definitely not using his bodies to test Naruto. He fully intends to capture Naruto here and now. Although, it'll be much harder for Naruto to fight against the real heir to the Sage of the Six Paths, Nagato.

Nagato just uses these six bodies due to the how smart it is and the incredible advantages they offer. Six times Byakugan vision, 6 shinobis at once. One that can block absorb pretty much any high level ninjutsu (hungry ghost). Another that can repel any physical attack, as well as ninjutsu (god realm), one that is a decked out offensive killing machine (demon realm) One that is capable of bringing each body back to life (Hell Realm) You get the point. Nagato using this unbelievable jutsu that he is to use six corpses in battle makes him invincible. I suspect though that if Naruto defeats them here and now, we'll see the true Nagato and Naruto lock it up at a later time.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2009-01-03 12:40:50

Also, a little heads up.

Always be sure to check out the translations from these guys. They have the best Naruto translations on the internet. They always get what is said better than what usually shows up in the actual scanlations.

http://mangahelpers.com/translators/?lang=en&manga...

cnet128
HisshouBuraiKen

Those 2 translators are extremely good, always check their stuff out. You'd be blown away by exactly how many details either get completely misunderstood in scanlations or which never get mentioned at all. For example, it was confirmed that Kisame didn't just call Madara the Mizukage, he called him the former Mizukage.

I'd bookmark that page; it really comes in handy.

+ posted by HisshouBuraiKen as Translation on Dec 30, 2008 13:28
Page 1:
Text: Returning to his home, now crushed by Pain...

Page 2:
Text: Naruto comes home!
Title: 430 - Naruto comes home

Page 3: N/A

Page 4:
Text: Naruto faces Pain!

Page 5:
Naruto: Where are they?

Bunta: Where's the enemy at?

Page 6:
Fuka: What happened, Ma?!
Why didn'tcha summon us to the Leaf Village?!

Shima: This IS the Hidden Leaf Village...

Gamakichi: What're you saying, Elder Shima?!

Shima: Take a look around.

Bunta: You're kidding me!

Page 7:
Shima: I know exactly whose ta blame fer this...

I got the same feelin' I did while I was on little Jiraiya's shoulder...

Page 8:
Iruka: Nngh-

Urgh-

Guy: You alive, Iruka?!

Katsuyu: My...apologies...just enveloping everyone...took all my strength...

Shikamaru: ...What the hell was that?!

SHikaku: Shikamaru, are you all right?
Shikamaru: More or less...my leg's definitely broken, though...

Page 9:
Chouji: KHACK-KHUGH!

Koh: Are you unhurt, Hinata-sama?
Hinata: Yes...but forget me, you're injured, Koh!

Koh: With Hiashi-sama and Hanabi-sama absent, I cannot allow anything to happen to you, Hinata-sama. I would bear the burden all my life.

Kiba: Ow ow ow ow...
Mom: Hang tight, Kiba!

Page 10:
Tsunade: What has he done...

Tsunade: H...
He'll pay...
You'll pay for this, Pain!

ANBU: The mark on her forehead is gone...

She must have released her Genesis Rebirth technique and sent the chakra to Katsuyu-sama...
All to try and protect the villagers from Pain's attack...
She has to be spent...

Page 11:
Pain: This makes my search much easier.

Hyuuga: That's...

Page 12:
Hyuuga: ...Naruto!

Sakura: Naruto!

Page 13: [Eep.]

Page 14:
Konan: Why are you taking such huge risks?

Animal: To carry out my version of justice.

Konan: By concentrating all his chakra into the Deva Realm, the power of the jutsu increased exponentially, but so did the risk.
And the other five bodies took longer to get back up than last time.

Konan: I'm coming to check on YOU.
My paper clone can't hold up any longer.


Page 15:
Animal: Summoning Technique!

Fuka: Looks like all six of 'em are here.

Page 16:
Bunta: Tsunade...
Tsunade bubbles: Huu
Haah

ANBU: FIFTH!
Tsunade: I am the Fifth Hokage...
You've trampled on our ancestors treasure...their dream...

And you will pay the price!
As the Hokage, I will end this, here and now!

Deva: I see you've come to understand true pain, if only slightly.
But you no longer concern me...

I'm here...

Page 17:
Naruto: For ME, right?!

Page 18: [OH SNAP]

Page 19:
Naruto: We don't need the Hokage to bother dealing with scum like these guys.
Go grab a cup of tea and take a breather, Granny.
Tsunade: Naruto...

Sakura: What's happening?! I can't see anything-
Hyuuga: It was unreal...he destroyed one of the Pain's bodies in one shot!

Sakura: Naruto...you...

Bunta: Hey pops...you saw their backs too, right? Both of 'em...

Page 20:
Fuka: Aye...
Naruto-chan's surpassed both their generations...


Pain: Uzumaki Naruto.

Naruto: I'm gonna wipe you off the face of the earth!

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

szaromir
szaromir
Since 1294 Days

2009-01-24 23:05:47

It seems like Naruto's in little trouble now... It seems like his complete Wind Rasengan took a bit too much chakra and didn't have the expected result.

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2009-01-25 15:48:45

sage mode uses external chakra not internal. so he hasn't lost any of his chakra. and there still the boss frogs and grand and pa frogs to help him out

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2009-02-06 12:35:21

I've been blown away by all the latest chapters. Naruto has become pretty unbelievable, but Pain is showing exactly why he can't be taken lightly.

I have some serious doubts as to whether this genjutsu that Ma and Pa are going to do is actually going to work.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

szaromir
szaromir
Since 1294 Days

2009-02-20 08:34:53

Kinda skinny isn't he? :D

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