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2006-11-04 10:43:14 Saints Row a Million Seller

THQ Thriving with Saints Row
The future looks bright for one of the games industry's largest publishers.

by Hilary Goldstein

November 3, 2006 - Saints Row and Company of Heroes are largely to thank for THQ's substantial profit increases. In its quarterly financial statement released today, THQ noted the exceptional sale of both titles directly lead to positive readjustments of the company's financial outlook. With high expectations for upcoming releases including WWE Smackdown Vs. Raw 2007 and The Sopranos, THQ raised its fiscal 2007 projections from $900-950 million to $925-$975 million.

Net sales for the quarter increased to $240.2 million from $142.7 million the year prior, a 68% increase. THQ's $12.6 million net income for the quarter is a substantial increase from its $1.4 million loss in the same quarter of the previous year.

Along with the increases in revenue, THQ announced that Saints Row has shipped more than one million copies on Xbox 360 and Cars, the multi-platform videogame based on the Pixar animated film, has shipped more than four million copies worldwide. THQ even has a firm grip on the handheld market. According to NPD, THQ is the #1 publisher year-to-date on the Nintendo DS.
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/743/743932p1.html


Me thinks a sequel will be in the works very soon.

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1468 Days

2006-11-04 10:47:59

Wow that's very good news indeed. If a game can manage to sell a million copies just on a single platform then the future is very bright. Publishers will definately tend to go multiplatform

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Optimusv2
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Since 1430 Days

2006-11-04 11:00:19

Awesome..... hopefully that means we can expect a sequel with a much better graphics engine and a character that speaks?

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Inflatable
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Since 2176 Days

2006-11-04 11:07:57

I'm not suprised.. Many gamers like GTA-like games (me too), especially good ones like Saints Row.. Next year we'll get GTA IV and then in 2008 probably Saints Row 2, at least I hope so..

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Optimusv2
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Since 1430 Days

2006-11-04 11:12:43

They now have a great foundation if they really beef the game up it could end up being a big 360 exclusive (if it remains exclusive)

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wuffyx
wuffyx
Since 1516 Days

2006-11-05 14:40:53

Very good news for the XBOX 360 overall. Another publisher hits the 1 million mark (it doesn't matter if these games are shipped or sold to the publisher) for a game that exists solely on the XBOX 360. Bethesda, Ubisoft, THQ, Capcom...all these good sales figures for a console that is relatively more expensive to the highly popular PS2, should encourage more developers to send their games to the XBOX 360.

Exclusivity seem to matter little these days. And once many publishers go multi platform, then the days of the XBOX 360 are looking brighter.

Shawnzee
Shawnzee
Since 1549 Days

2006-11-05 14:45:27

THQ outsold Nintendo on their own platform? Hard to believe, amazing if true.

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1468 Days

2006-11-05 15:01:12 In reply to Shawnzee (2006-11-05 14:45:27)

Posted by Shawnzee
THQ outsold Nintendo on their own platform? Hard to believe, amazing if true.
may be they meant the number one third party publisher on the DS.

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gmulis
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Since 1326 Days

2006-11-05 19:30:53

that reminds how many has dead rising sold so far

Shawnzee
Shawnzee
Since 1549 Days

2006-11-05 19:51:51 In reply to gmulis (2006-11-05 19:30:53)

Posted by gmulis
that reminds how many has dead rising sold so far
930+ thousand, soon to be a million.

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2006-11-05 20:38:22 In reply to Shawnzee (2006-11-05 19:51:51)

Posted by Shawnzee
930+ thousand, soon to be a million.
thanks

future looks bright for the xbox 360

Acert93
Mr. Bad Cop Since 1509 Days

2006-11-05 20:43:54

CoD2, Oblivion, GRAW, Saint's Row have all broke 1M and Dead Rising looks to be added to that list ASAP. Toss in GOW, that is 6 games in 12 months with 6M total consoles.

The Xbox1 had 13 games in the US break 1M copies over 5 years, and it has 25M units sold.

This may explain why the Xbox 360 is ripping the Xbox1 and PS2 in total sales in the same time frame. e.g.

Xbox vs. X360 http://www.vgcharts.org/usaconscomps.php?name1=X36...

PS2 vs. X360 http://www.vgcharts.org/usaconscomps.php?name1=X36...

From a publisher standpoint the Xbox 360 is demonstrating to be a very strong platform for game sales. We can talk about install base and competition, but at the end of the day it is about how much software can be pushed on a platform. So far the Xbox 360 is proving to be a huge success for publishers.

MS isn't going to have 174 titles break 1M in sales like the PS2 did, but I bet they will beat 13 titles at the 1M mark within 24 months.

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1468 Days

2006-11-05 21:52:22 In reply to Acert93 (2006-11-05 20:43:54)

Posted by Acert93
MS isn't going to have 174 titles break 1M in sales like the PS2 did, but I bet they will beat 13 titles at the 1M mark within 24 months.
Oh definately in particular with Games Like GOW, Rainbow Six Vegas, Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty 3, Mass Effect, Halo 3 of course, Bioshock all due in 2007.

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Shawnzee
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Since 1549 Days

2006-11-05 22:02:00

I think Forza, Bioshock, Halo 3, GTA, Mass Effect, Assassins Creed, Too Human, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, GRAW 2, Call of Duty 3, Crackdown, and Alan Wake will all sell a million by next year.

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unfettered
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Since 1526 Days

2006-11-06 09:56:15 In reply to Acert93 (2006-11-05 20:43:54)

Posted by Acert93
CoD2, Oblivion, GRAW, Saint's Row have all broke 1M and Dead Rising looks to be added to that list ASAP. Toss in GOW, that is 6 games in 12 months with 6M total consoles.

The Xbox1 had 13 games in the US break 1M copies over 5 years, and it has 25M units sold.

This may explain why the Xbox 360 is ripping the Xbox1 and PS2 in total sales in the same time frame. e.g.

Xbox vs. X360 http://www.vgcharts.org/usaconscomps.php?name1=X36...

PS2 vs. X360 http://www.vgcharts.org/usaconscomps.php?name1=X36...

From a publisher standpoint the Xbox 360 is demonstrating to be a very strong platform for game sales. We can talk about install base and competition, but at the end of the day it is about how much software can be pushed on a platform. So far the Xbox 360 is proving to be a huge success for publishers.

MS isn't going to have 174 titles break 1M in sales like the PS2 did, but I bet they will beat 13 titles at the 1M mark within 24 months.
I think that you can add Prey to that list of million sellers - if it has not hit yet, I know that it was getting pretty close. Also, Test Drive Unlimited seems to be tracking toward the million seller point.

Gears of War is anticipated to have around a million pre-orders, so do not be surprised if the game moves a million to a million and a half units it's first week at retail. R6 Vegas, SC Double Agent, F.E.A.R., and Call of Duty 3 are all guaranteed million sellers; all due to be released within the first year of X360 availability. All in all things are tracking very well for the 360 in it's early lifespan.

As pointed out, 2007 is turning out not to be a slouch either. Lost Planet, Blue Dragon, Assassin's Creed, GTA4, Mass Effect, Halo 3, Fable 2, Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway and Stranglehold are all due for release in Western markets and are all guaranteed million sellers. And other titles like Alan Wake, Crackdown, Forza 2, Bioshock, Eternal Sonata, Too Human, DarkSector and Shadowrun if marketed correctly, should make the cut as well.

That's almost 30 potential million sellers released in the first 24 months (12 of which saw initial release in the first twelve months) to the system is on the market. Not a bad beginning to say the least.

EDIT - It's been brought to my attention that PGR and PGR2 both sold over 1.5 million, so I guess it stands to reason that PGR3 (which I am loving BTW) will do likewise. So there, you can add yet another million seller to the list. Which brings of the question of the PDZ and Kameo. I know that both games were selling very well, but does anyone here have any numbers on how well they are doing? Have they yet crossed the million seller mark or are they tracking to do so? I'm just curious as its beginning to seem that the 360 is tacking on confirmed and potential million sellers left and right.

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unfettered
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Since 1526 Days

2006-11-06 10:25:20

Microsoft Xbox games that have sold more than one million copies worldwide as of August 2006.


I think with this list, we can begin to get an idea of which of the classic franchises will sell into the millions of units this generation as their new generation sequels make appearances over the course of time.



North American (only) Totals Xbox 360 Games As of August 2006



Do keep in mind all totals from both charts are only up until August (01) of 2006. So a considerable amount of software sales are not accounted for. For example, THQ just released a press release last week stating that Saints Row just moved a million units since it's late August release; yet the game does not appear on the Xbox 360 chart at all, much less the million units that it sold. Also keep in mind that the Xbox 360 chart is only for the North American market. For some reason unknown to me, the chart's source is not able to tabulate monthly sales figures from throughout Europe and other territories. Japan and North America seem to be the only regions they are able to tabulate on a monthly basis - however, they seem to be able to tabulate annual numbers from most regions, so when those become available for 2006, I will hope to remember to post them here.

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QuezcatoL
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Since 1590 Days

2006-11-06 16:20:01

Ye,dead rising for ex hitted 500k very fast,and on that list it says 330.000.

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Acert93
Mr. Bad Cop Since 1509 Days

2006-11-06 19:33:51

Last I read Dead Rising was at 900k+ units. Btw, seems your numbers are more up to date than the one in the other thread? Good stuff there! Seems Xbox1 had quite a few 1M sellers.

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QuezcatoL
QuezcatoL
Since 1590 Days

2006-11-06 19:45:38

Well quite good still,xbox sold around 20-25 million units and had over 20 million+ sellers.
So if we think of a ground base its still "good".

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unfettered
unfettered
Since 1526 Days

2006-11-06 21:14:22 In reply to QuezcatoL (2006-11-06 16:20:01)

Posted by QuezcatoL
Ye,dead rising for ex hitted 500k very fast,and on that list it says 330.000.
Actually, the list has it at 382,000 units. That's because when this list is up-to-date as of August 2006 (I actually point that out several times) and Dead Rising had probably been out for only a week or two when the numbers that make up this list were tabulated.

I used the VG Charts list because it is probably 95% accurate, unfortunately for it to hit that level of accuracy, it is usually several months behind giving them the opportunity to tabulate and verify numbers from a myriad of sources before finally publishing them.

The other thing of note is that these numbers are from August, and we are in November. Quite a few of the games on this list are going to have sold a bit more since then, especially with the customary spike in software and hardware sales that goes with the end of summer and the latter 3rd of Q3. So most of the more recent games on the list are still selling quite well and are most likely tracking ever closer to the million seller mark. The perfect example of this is Volition's Saints Row, which had not even come out by the time the numbers for this list were being tabulated, yet it has already sold a million copies; probably half of which sold in North America, but do not be surprised to see good numbers from this game in Europe as Saints Row has been an extremely popular game across teh Pond and rested at the top of the European sales charts (for all systems combined) for several weeks.

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wuffyx
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Since 1516 Days

2006-11-07 08:27:14

Who is willing to bet that GRAW and Lost Planet will reach the 1M spot within a few months? Other likely candidates include Blue Dragon (depending on how fast Microsoft can localize this thing) and DOAX2.

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