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deftangel
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Since 1407 Days

2006-11-26 12:28:25 Updated Shadowrun Hands-On

http://mthddirector.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!44B2A...

Sounds pretty good.

Shawnzee
Shawnzee
Since 1551 Days

2006-11-26 12:34:13

I still wish it was a rpg, they wasted money on this game cause nobody is gonna buy it.

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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1422 Days

2006-11-26 12:44:34

Art style looks nice, but seeing as they stuffed it up with FPS gameplay i think i'll give it a miss.

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rustykaks
rustykaks
Since 1520 Days

2006-11-26 12:47:49

thank god its not rpg! :P

SimonM7
SimonM7
Since 1562 Days

2006-11-26 12:49:26

I'm getting a Counterstrike vibe from the whole concept, and seeing as one of the main reasons that I got fed up with that (aside from squeaking 13-year olds) was the subject matter, the fictional settings here are sure to keep things a little more engaging and varied.

In a lot of ways this isn't entirely unlike Phantasy Star Online, which also had some people miffed at its story-less online hack and slashing, and with the same logic; if this is good I think people will warm up to it.

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rustykaks
rustykaks
Since 1520 Days

2006-11-26 12:51:52

actually being serious...i think it looks and sounds cool

roxwell
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Since 1488 Days

2006-11-26 13:56:10

Sounds good to me.

At least it aint turn based: Fire>wait>shot>reload>wait>fire ;)

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rustykaks
rustykaks
Since 1520 Days

2006-11-26 14:11:29 In reply to roxwell (2006-11-26 13:56:10)

Posted by roxwell
Sounds good to me.

At least it aint turn based: Fire>wait>shot>reload>wait>fire ;)
indeed..not the most realistic combat system nowadays

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1422 Days

2006-11-26 16:06:58 In reply to roxwell (2006-11-26 13:56:10)

Posted by roxwell
Sounds good to me.

At least it aint turn based: Fire>wait>shot>reload>wait>fire ;)
Well naturally you have to wait whilst you aim. :)

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I want Blue Dragon more than Optimus .... mwah ha ha ha ha ha..

Marumaro for the WIN !!

rustykaks
rustykaks
Since 1520 Days

2006-11-26 16:12:02 In reply to Jollipop (2006-11-26 16:06:58)

Posted by Jollipop
Well naturally you have to wait whilst you aim. :)
nope just spray bullets everywhere...bound to hit some1

Panzer83
Panzer83
Since 1475 Days

2006-11-26 16:24:03

Looks good, MP looks great.

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Slabs
Slabs
Since 1569 Days

2006-11-26 17:01:41 In reply to Shawnzee (2006-11-26 12:34:13)

Posted by Shawnzee
I still wish it was a rpg, they wasted money on this game cause nobody is gonna buy it.
I think I might. An RPG is still very much a possibility if this game succeeds in getting more people interested in the franchise.

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1422 Days

2006-11-26 17:43:52

Well after they messed this up so badly i wouldn't trust them with an RPG.

Should have been a MMO adventure game, something like DCM or NG but with customisable characters.

If it was to do well (which i bet it won't) then they will just make a sequel.

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Marumaro for the WIN !!

Slabs
Slabs
Since 1569 Days

2006-11-26 17:52:54

How have they messed it up when all HANDS-ON previews have said it plays well and the Shadowrun abilities add a lot to the gameplay? They want it to become a franchise known to everyone instead of just the nostalgia hungry forums posters, then we may see them expand on the gameplay some more.

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1422 Days

2006-11-26 18:00:57

They have messed it up because the last thing the 360 needed was another FPS. (granted it's being dev'd with windows games in mind also)

If it becomes big fan's will expect the sequel to keep the same gameplay, changing it will alienate fans of the game.

Doesn't matter if it plays well, it doesn't represent the Shadowrun games that i used to play back on the genesis and snes.

Shouldn't even be called Shadowrun if you ask me.

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I want Blue Dragon more than Optimus .... mwah ha ha ha ha ha..

Marumaro for the WIN !!

roxwell
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Since 1488 Days

2006-11-26 18:38:01

I personally think the Shadowrun line up will offer a great variation in characters.

Slow, fast, stealthy etc, should make for a very good MP FPS.

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SimonM7
SimonM7
Since 1562 Days

2006-11-26 18:45:45 In reply to Jollipop (2006-11-26 18:00:57)

But neither did PSO represent the Phantasy Star series, yet it put the universe established in those games in a new context and it worked. I don't see the difference here.

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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1422 Days

2006-11-26 19:19:35

Because PSO can be considered an MMORPG of sorts.

An FPS stands against everything i beieve in.... ok maybe not.. but i don't like it one bit.

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deftangel
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Since 1407 Days

2006-11-26 20:17:53 In reply to Slabs (2006-11-26 17:01:41)

Posted by Slabs
I think I might. An RPG is still very much a possibility if this game succeeds in getting more people interested in the franchise.
I think that's the point. I'm sure there are a ton of hardcore Shadowrun fans out there but perhaps not enough to make a full blown next-gen Shadowrun RPG off the bat. I had never heard of it up till now.

However, make a game based on the universe, draw some people into the fiction and suddenly it becomes a bit more viable. From the interview it would certainly seem that Microsoft / FASA are not blind to this in the future.

As for "just another FPS" , it sounds to me like they're genuinely trying to do something different with this, as well as tying in the Live anywhere stuff. I for one and looking forward to trying it out and it sounds to me like they're making a good fist of tying in the fiction with the gameplay.

They do need to get it out soon though so it gets a decent run. Halo 3 will just flatten any other decent multiplayer FPS' once it's out. Is there a latest ETA on this?

SimonM7
SimonM7
Since 1562 Days

2006-11-26 20:17:54 In reply to Jollipop (2006-11-26 19:19:35)

Haha, okay, well then yeah I suppose I understand. I still don't think it's different per se, though, but I understand.

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roxwell
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Since 1488 Days

2006-11-26 21:02:03 In reply to deftangel (2006-11-26 20:17:53)

Is there a latest ETA on this?
Early next year. They are Beta testing over live now I think.
Surprised you've not seen it yet Deft.

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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 1399 Days

2006-11-26 22:46:19 In reply to Jollipop (2006-11-26 18:00:57)

Joli you always say that... but its like saying the last thing sony needs is another jrpg?, if it plays well and sells well, why the hell not have more of the same!!

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1422 Days

2006-11-26 22:51:00

Well i don't think Sony need more JRPG's.

Nor do i think MS need more FPS.

But i do think MS need more JRPG's and Sony need more FPS.

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I want Blue Dragon more than Optimus .... mwah ha ha ha ha ha..

Marumaro for the WIN !!

dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 1399 Days

2006-11-26 22:57:48

if a game is good is dose not matter what it is, unless like certain people you HATE a certain genre ((joli = fps hate...))

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1422 Days

2006-11-26 23:03:14

Well i'm not guna turn this in to another diversity thread.

But consoles need both to survive, whether i like FPS isn't the issue, but i don't think the 360 needs another FPS, it is way too unbalanced and over crowed in that genre already.

Obviously an FPS lover wouldn't agree with me there.

if a game is good is dose not matter what it is.
So if ever game on the 360 were FPS, you don't think that would be a problem, as long as they were all good ?

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I want Blue Dragon more than Optimus .... mwah ha ha ha ha ha..

Marumaro for the WIN !!

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