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gmulis
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Since 1326 Days

2007-08-04 21:58:26 Heavenly Sword is “half-assed” says Itagaki

http://gamers-creed.com/?p=215

,” Itagaki says. “I look at Heavenly Sword and it seems really half-assed, because it’s asking you to do all these button-timing sequences but you are not getting much payoff from it.”

classsical of itagaki

lets see what he come up with in NJ2

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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 1398 Days

2007-08-04 22:00:54 In reply to gmulis (2007-08-04 21:58:26)

lol that guy, he's a nutter :)

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kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1513 Days

2007-08-04 22:07:35

lol Itagaki interviews always bring a smile to my face. Show NG2 off already, you ass! :(

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Phaethon360
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Since 1383 Days

2007-08-04 22:11:07

Pretty bold words. I have a feeling Heavenly Sword will out sell Sigma its first week (According to VGcharts its only sold 160k units). After playing all of NG's releases, I've never been compelled to buy one. Guess a lot of people felt the same way seeing as it only sold around 1.2mil world wide.

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1468 Days

2007-08-04 22:16:05

The Man is a nut I swear lol :D The other day on another interview I think he said Tekken sucks.... he's really crazy! :)

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kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1513 Days

2007-08-04 22:24:06 In reply to alimokrane (2007-08-04 22:16:05)

Posted by alimokrane
The Man is a nut I swear lol :D The other day on another interview I think he said Tekken sucks.... he's really crazy! :)
yup lol. Do you remember that one interview he did where they asked his top 5 worst games of all time, and he listed all the Tekken games 1-5. Funny stuff :p

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Myro
Myro
Since 1466 Days

2007-08-04 22:27:56

How many ports of Ninja Gaiden have been made?

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JXB
JXB
Since 870 Days

2007-08-04 22:29:07

no jump button, and alot of qte segments, also, more sales does not equal better game.

alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1468 Days

2007-08-04 22:36:40 In reply to Myro (2007-08-04 22:27:56)

Posted by Myro
How many ports of Ninja Gaiden have been made?
The only port is Ninja Gaiden Sigma for PS3. Ninja Gaiden DS I guess as well.
Posted by kenshin2418
yup lol. Do you remember that one interview he did where they asked his top 5 worst games of all time, and he listed all the Tekken games 1-5. Funny stuff :p
Never read this one, Oh Man ... A complete nut he is! :D

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Sath
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Since 1404 Days

2007-08-04 22:39:58

Well I love Itagaki and the NG series, but seriously he needs to shut up if he wants to keep his reputation for one of the best in the busniess with his games.

I can say that NG is one cheap ass AI game for sure, there I said it.

I for one love Heavenly Sword, one of the reason I bought it, so its not half-asses, its "limited" :P.

But yeah all this bashing against DMC4 and now HEavenly Sword, lets see what the hell he is going to do with NG2.

At least other companies made a effort to twitch the gameplay quite a lot, so Itagaki needs to add quite a lot cool things to its gameplay!

TGS!!

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kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1513 Days

2007-08-04 22:41:01 In reply to alimokrane (2007-08-04 22:36:40)

Posted by alimokrane
The only port is Ninja Gaiden Sigma for PS3. Ninja Gaiden DS I guess as well.
and NG Black :p


@Sath
To be fair, he never really bashed DMC3/4, that was Yousuke Hayashi, the director of NG Sigma.

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1468 Days

2007-08-04 22:43:08 In reply to Sath (2007-08-04 22:39:58)

^^ Says Sath with the Ninja Gaiden Avatar! lol :D I think we can all aree that Ninja Gaiden had a half assed AI but Man The pay off when you know how things work are just incredible. Ninja Gaiden is just a brilliant game, we cant deny that hehe :D Bring on NINJA GAIDEN 2 Biaaaa*** :D

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 1468 Days

2007-08-04 22:44:32 In reply to kenshin2418 (2007-08-04 22:41:01)

Posted by kenshin2418
and NG Black :p
That's not really a port, it more of Game of the year edition. both of NG and NGblack were on xbox so I wouldnt calle NGB a port really, it just included the downloadable stuff that was on live and added the missions part. Damn, writing this makes me wanna play the game again!

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TheBeagle
TheBeagle
Since 1143 Days

2007-08-04 22:48:03

Heavenly Sword will outsell NG for sure. Its a far more accessible game and a lot more forgiving. At the moment this game will be seen as the PS3's God of War and I think because of that it will sell extremely well. I for one look forward to playing it when I eventually get a PS3.

mkk316
mkk316
Since 1351 Days

2007-08-04 22:51:18

less shit talking, more NG 2 Itagaki.

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1430 Days

2007-08-04 23:35:12

Itagaki can say whatever he wants :)

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SimonM7
SimonM7
Since 1561 Days

2007-08-04 23:51:33

I have tremendous respect for Ninja Gaiden, and I think it's the showcase for non-hack and slash gameplay. It's the game people want Dynasty Warrors and N3 to be when they complain about the AI, the clear distinction between the Streets of Rage school of games and *something else*.

Thing is though that Itagaki seems to really confuse direction with progress. It's weird that he doesn't complain about Virtua Fighter, but at the same time it's the most revered fighter like.. probably ever.. so I guess there's a limit to even his arrogance. However, I remember his comments back when VF4 came out and Sega went back to flat arenas with clear ring outs. Itagaki's comments sounded a lot like DOA with its elaborate arenas was the *future*, and that while he respected what Sega was doing they were essentially "stuck in time".

The same thing is true now with Ninja Gaiden. Team Ninja has taken a certain path with it, having a very controlled environment, limited numbers of enemies and having the combat and interaction with one enemy be very sophisticated. Instead of recognizing the merits in having larger quantities of enemies and having to dispatch them all without taking damage, he immediately dismisses that as "old".

It's once you realise this that he doesn't sound so much like a prick anymore. Or, rather, he still sounds like a prick, but you realise how smart he is and how his ideas and opinion are pretty well founded. He steps in new directions while still playing very much by "hardcore" rules. No fluff, everything is circular and has risk/reward, everything is absolutely useful in a very arcadey Streets of Rage way, but it's applying a lot of modern philosophies to it.

He seems to look at games like Tekken and God of War and firmly believes that's the wrong way to make a game, and that's his springboard for making new ones that in his opinion are better in every way. I guess that's just how he works.

JediMasterMalik
Since 1273 Days

2007-08-04 23:57:55

Itagaki just seems to hate every game other than his own nwhich is in the same genre.

GriftGFX
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Since 1538 Days

2007-08-05 00:18:53 In reply to JediMasterMalik (2007-08-04 23:57:55)

Posted by JediMasterMalik
Itagaki just seems to hate every game other than his own which is in the same genre.
Pretty much. I love Ninja Gaiden too.. but he's sorta ridiculous. But then again, so long as he keeps making solid games, I really don't care.

LEBATO
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Since 1660 Days

2007-08-05 00:21:21 In reply to alimokrane (2007-08-04 22:16:05)

Posted by alimokrane
The other day on another interview I think he said Tekken sucks....
I really see nothing wrong with that.

Anyways, Ninja Gaiden is IMO the best of its kind. So there's more weight to his words that way.

Now he also said “I’ve never played a good game where the developers put a big icon of the button you’re supposed to press onscreen,”

Which tells us he doesn't like Shenmue nor RE4...WTF?!?!?

mkk316
mkk316
Since 1351 Days

2007-08-05 00:34:55

I just think he's upset because heavenly sword wasnt as heavily influenced by NG as say, God of War. :p

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Jin187
Jin187
Since 1282 Days

2007-08-05 01:09:25

hes quality

kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1513 Days

2007-08-05 01:31:21 In reply to JediMasterMalik (2007-08-04 23:57:55)

Posted by JediMasterMalik
Itagaki just seems to hate every game other than his own nwhich is in the same genre.
He liked Gears of War :)

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JediMasterMalik
Since 1273 Days

2007-08-05 01:35:04 In reply to kenshin2418 (2007-08-05 01:31:21)

Posted by kenshin2418
He liked Gears of War :)
He's never made a third person shooter.

kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1513 Days

2007-08-05 01:40:38 In reply to JediMasterMalik (2007-08-05 01:35:04)

Posted by JediMasterMalik
He's never made a third person shooter.
yet :o

but ok then, he's praised Virtua Fighter too on different occasions, even said there would be no DOA without it(duh!). Your move Shurlock.

and in DMC case, I haven't read a interview where he came out and bashed it. He always said it was fine, not really bashing, but not really praising either. The only one that took cheap shots publicly towards DMC was Hayashi from what I can remember.

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