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| Phaethon360 Mr Pant Since 1380 Days |
2007-08-15 12:20:26 IGN Reviews Blue Dragon http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/812/812365p1.html The amount of time you have to invest in Blue Dragon before the payout occurs is excessive by any measuring stick. The presentation of character development, skill acquisition, and interesting side quests is skewed heavily towards the latter third of the game. For the first 10-15 hours Blue Dragon offers linearity, characters you know little about, and little in the means of interesting action or combat. It's not a far stretch of the imagination at all to think that a great number of gamers won't make it over this first hump. The pacing just isn't one that will hook anybody early on and likely won't resonate with a good portion of the American audience. You won't be alone if you're 5-10 hours into the game scratching your head as you wonder when the fun starts. Is the payoff worth the time? Yes and no. By the end of the third disc, the world of Blue Dragon opens. The requisite airship is introduced and players are encouraged to go back and re-explore areas they've previously been to. The optional side quests at the end of the game are fun and present the only real challenges in the game. High level enemies can be found, new towns and islands become available to explore, and a good number of previously inaccessible chests holding goodies present enough new and fun reasons to delay the inevitable end of the game. Even the Corporeal attacks, Blue Dragon's version of summon spells in which the shadows take physical form for massive damage, don't appear until this latter portion of the game. This is what you've been waiting for. The concept isn't new for RPGs, in fact it's almost quaint at this point, but Blue Dragon is traditional if nothing else. Though the first disc is a bore, as things open up and more challenges are offered, Blue Dragon becomes very enjoyable. Invest the time and you'll fiind a game worth playing to its conclusion. --- |
| dcdelgado Since 1394 Days |
2007-08-15 12:33:03 I had a feeling this would be too deep for the Western market, looks like its true. --- |
| Phaethon360 Mr Pant Since 1380 Days |
2007-08-15 12:36:38 I don't know, I think it's just been released in a very bad schedule. This would have been the perfect summer title. No games were being released, and everyone had a ton of time to invest in something like this. Now, there's just too many games to buy and not enough time to play them. If they had made the Asian subtitled version region free, I would've definitely bought it. --- |
| mt_sabao Since 965 Days |
2007-08-15 13:08:04 3 DVDs?! 15 before the fun starts? Man, what with all the amazing fun games coming along who has time to invest 15 hours before the fun starts?! |
| RAZurrection Since 1407 Days |
2007-08-15 13:17:26 http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1365/Blue-Dra... |
| Jollipop Since 1417 Days |
2007-08-15 13:36:34 To be honest I think the exact oppisite, i found the game well paced and it kept me entertained up to the last minute. I have a feeling LO will be pushed back to 2008. --- |
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| gmulis blames poor marketing Since 1322 Days |
2007-08-15 14:29:44 maybe sakaguchi is too old school for 2007 --- |
| Heretic Since 1507 Days |
2007-08-15 16:54:15 i can't wait! this will be the game to hold me over till the greatest game of all time ships, Halo 3! --- |
| unfettered Since 1522 Days |
2007-08-15 17:43:18 Geez, I was afraid of this. Especially after playing the demo. But I was willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, and just assume that it was a mediocre demo, and that the game would be way better. Well it is certainly appearing like my first instinct about Blue Dragon, from playing the demo, was spot on. There is nothing new here to jRPGs to warrant a purchase. I mean, in the demo, they even through in what we now know to be some of the advanced features from the third disc, like the corporeal, and still the game did not seem to live up to what I was hoping it would. And on top of the fact that there is nothing new for the genre in this game, the pacing is all BS. Here is a 50+ hour game, and for the entire first disc, the pacing is as slow as molasses? C'mon, give me a break. And then there isn't even any character development until disc three? That's over 30 hours into the game. It sounds to me, after reading both IGN's and Team Xbox's reviews, that the first two discs of Blue Dragon are more like a prelude to the story, and the real story does not even begin until you get to disc three. The problem is, to get to disc three you have to play through the 30 hours of gameplay that is disc one and disc two. People, I don't know about the rest of you, but that is just way too much of an investment. Made even worse by the fact that there are virtually a ton of AAA titles being released starting with BioShock, due out the week before Blue Dragon. Two Worlds, another promising RPG, is also due out the week before Blue Dragon. Stranglehold, who's demo absolutely kicks insane amounts of ass, comes out on the same day as Blue Dragon. And then three weeks after Blue Dragon will see the release of Eternal Sonata, which if the demos is anything to judge by, is looking to be a far better jRPG experience than Blue Dragon. I figure by the time I complete beating BioShock and Stranglehold, Eternal Sonata will be coming out and I will pick that one up instead. Tri-Crescendo seems to have their thinking caps on with this one, and Eternal Sonata seems to have everything under the hood that is missing from Blue Dragon: well-paced story, well-paced character development, dynamic battle system, pays offs scattered throughout the adventure and not just reserved for the last few hours of the game, etc. |
| Schmooboo Since 1091 Days |
2007-08-15 17:53:12 Well, BD, is really cute looking game, im sure theres alot of young people that will love it, and im pretty sure, by western standards its intended for a younger audience, with Lost Odysey for an older audience. --- |
| unfettered Since 1522 Days |
2007-08-15 19:21:07 http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/... |
| Optimusv2 Since 1426 Days |
2007-08-15 19:28:09 Heh doesn't change my opinion of the game any to be honest :) --- |
| Optimusv2 Since 1426 Days |
2007-08-15 20:18:50 Unfettered Blue Dragon isn't average at all. Maybe its average to people that aren't into such a game or it probably isn't violent enough for the people that would probably enjoy things such as Ninja Gaiden, Bioshock or gears, but its a great game. --- |
| JediMasterMalik Since 1269 Days |
2007-08-15 20:30:02 But you're a Gooch fanboy. ;) |
| Optimusv2 Since 1426 Days |
2007-08-15 20:32:48 In reply to JediMasterMalik (2007-08-15 20:30:02) Posted by JediMasterMalik But you're a Gooch fanboy. ;) --- |
| LEBATO IS WRONG Since 1656 Days |
2007-08-15 20:37:19 Meh, I'm not going to say anything any more about RPGs. I thought there was something fishy about the EGM review, but I guess I just don't know how to judge these kind of games. Oh well, another one bites the dust I guess. |
| Optimusv2 Since 1426 Days |
2007-08-15 20:43:20 Yea it isn't for everyone that much is fairly obvious by now. I was hoping all the charm in the game people saw as Blim was displaying it would overcome even the most resistant of persons to this type of jrpg, but I guess not :) --- |
| GriftGFX He can also ban your ass! Since 1534 Days |
2007-08-15 21:53:44 In reply to dcdelgado (2007-08-15 12:33:03) Posted by dcdelgado I had a feeling this would be too deep for the Western market, looks like its true. |
| Optimusv2 Since 1426 Days |
2007-08-16 01:41:15 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-08-15 21:53:44) Posted by GriftGFX Too deep.. because they gave it a 7.9! Yes I'm sure it's much deeper than Mass Effect! They can't stand how traditional it is. They can't stand the turnbased combat. They can't stand the anime humor (they find marumaro annoying) they final all the characters annoying. They don't appreciate the visual style, they are annoyed by anime cliches in the story. They find playing through it boring and tedious I find it enjoyable. People found playing through final fantasy 7 boring and tedious too, but back then turn based was totally acceptable :) --- |
| GriftGFX He can also ban your ass! Since 1534 Days |
2007-08-16 01:54:02 I agree. Almost as ridiculous as claiming that Blue Dragon is "too deep for western audiences." |
| Optimusv2 Since 1426 Days |
2007-08-16 02:22:47 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-08-16 01:54:02) Posted by GriftGFX I agree. Almost as ridiculous as claiming that Blue Dragon is "too deep for western audiences." Lost Odyssey is really traditional too, but it atleast appeals to what western gamers like. A more mature, serious looking type of game and Blue Dragon isn't that. --- |
| endaround Since 1111 Days |
2007-08-16 02:31:31 The point is, as gorgeous as Blue Dragon is, is it a better experience than Persona 3? |
| Ronsauce Since 1519 Days |
2007-08-16 02:42:01 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-08-16 02:22:47) Posted by Optimusv2 Its sorta accurate, but maybe he could've used a better word. I personally think its too much of a traditional jrpg for the western market. Its a new IP it doesn't have the recognition of a final fantasy or dragon quest title so I guess I should've expected this. Lost Odyssey is really traditional too, but it atleast appeals to what western gamers like. A more mature, serious looking type of game and Blue Dragon isn't that. The claim that BD is too deep for Western audiences seems like a poor attempt at damage control. Whereas.... Posted by Optimusv2 They can't stand how traditional it is. They can't stand the turnbased combat. They can't stand the anime humor (they find marumaro annoying) they final all the characters annoying. They don't appreciate the visual style, they are annoyed by anime cliches in the story. |
| Optimusv2 Since 1426 Days |
2007-08-16 02:51:49 Well I say sorta accurate in the sense that I knew what he was trying to say even if it didn't come out right. --- |
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