2007-08-28 04:52:43 Metroid Prime 3 Corruption 9.5 from IGN

http://wii.ign.com/articles/815/815424p1.html


What a beautiful looking game. Incredible art. I think it stands up pretty damn nicely to anything on the 360 and PS3.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-08-28 05:37:35

already posted in the Wii thread, but no one ever goes into there :p

Anyway, indeed it does. I'm going to go to Gamestop tomorrow and test it out since they have it up and playable.

GT's Review
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24117.html

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2007-08-28 05:48:06 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-08-28 04:52:43)

You are talking purely artistically, right?

2007-08-28 06:06:46 In reply to Ronsauce (2007-08-28 05:48:06)

I hope so.. because it looks like a Game Cube game.

2007-08-28 06:10:29 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-08-28 06:06:46)

I would hope that running in widescreen at 480p it'd look a little better than GC game though. Seriously, with all the money Nintendo is making, they could've put some more muscle into the Wii. 720p with AA would've been nice.

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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

2007-08-28 06:15:26

Optimus, lesson learned. Their is a reason why I posted this in the Wii thread ;)

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all about Crisis Core

2007-08-28 06:20:10

I think top Wii games deserve their own threads now that we're officially a multiplatform site.. especially when it's one of the most highly rated Wii games yet. Seems like one of the first good reasons for the "hardcore" crowd to get interested. I wasn't trying to bash the game, just suggesting that compared to what the 360 and PS3 are pushing it really doesn't hold up on a technical level.

It still looks fun though. And chock full o waggle. My interest in the Wii is growing.. but Smash Bros. is still the app that stands to push me over the edge.

2007-08-28 06:27:29

Come Winter break, I'll be picking up this, Super Mario Galaxy, and Super Smash Bros. Does MP3 have online? If so, prepare for an ASS WHOOPIN' in this and SSBB.

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2007-08-28 06:31:48 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-08-28 06:20:10)

Well, I'm a Metroid fanboy so I jump the gun a bit early sometimes :p

But I agree that graphically it doesn't look that much better than MP2 on the Gamecube. If I'm not mistaken, they're using the same engine from MP1/MP2 just with tweaks here and there. Still, artistically I think it's one of the best I've seen, and stands up with PS3/360 games(not in graphic tech of course) in that regard.

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2007-08-28 06:38:37 In reply to Ronsauce (2007-08-28 05:48:06)

Of course :)

I value art as far more important than raw graphical features. A game can have as much tech as it wants, but without great art to go with it, it isn't a winner in my book as far as visual appeal goes.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-08-28 10:17:01

Why would anyone even ask someone who thinks a Wii game looks on par with 360/PS3/PC titles if he means artistically? Grift has even used the 720p thing as a reason why Wii games aren't on the same level, and then we're into numbers that simply will not change.

So yeah, a Wii game that looks better than anything else does so for the "all the right reasons". Incredible art direction and appreciation for what you can do within the boundaries of the hardware. Of course, in this sense, even the first Metroid Prime blows pretty much everything away.

In fact, in many senses, Prime blows pretty much everything away, but that's a bit off topic. :)

2007-08-28 11:28:48

Gamespot gave it 8.5/10.0

2007-08-28 12:49:09

It'll definitely take some adjusting to GS new scoring system, but I see where they're coming from with the not doing much new stuff. Videos certainly give a sense of deja vu, but I can imagine far worse things than having deja vu moments of Metroid Prime.

Like, for instance, having deja vu moments of Full Auto. *glances over at bookshelf where Full Auto 2 sits*

I was so willing to love you, damn it.

2007-08-28 15:57:54 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-08-28 10:17:01)

Well now Simon, that's only one of many reasons. Let's not pretend that resolution is the only thing separating them either. As far as Prime blowing everything away, well, doesn't surprise me coming from someone willing to love Full Auto ;) I'm kidding, sorta, but I don't think for a moment that peoples love for Metroid Prime isn't based at least somewhat in a bias generated by pure nostalgia.. Nintendo gets away with quite a bit of that.

On a more serious note though, GS's new scoring system sorta sucks.

2007-08-28 16:15:16 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-08-28 15:57:54)

Marry me? What you said was nothing but the truth!

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2007-08-28 16:20:04 In reply to Panzer83 (2007-08-28 16:15:16)

Are you female? :P

2007-08-28 16:28:10

Of course, I just used the example because there's NO WAY a Wii game can be more technically advanced. That's why I don't even know why people bring it up. As an artist I can appreciate working with tons of colours on gigantic canvases, painting photo realistic stuff, or I can make a White Ninja-esque strip and that can be just as *perfect* within itself. It can even be far more appealing than the former. Those are extremes of course, but they bring the point across.


I saw a lot of potential in Full Auto and I was readily willing to give 2 a shot at being really good, yeah. Unfortunately they took 1, put a 2 on it.. and... uh. Yeah.

The fact that I enjoy "lesser" games like The Suffering, Dynasty Warriors and by all means Full Auto on a regular basis doesn't really diminish the irrefutable wonder that is Metroid Prime though. You can't blame it on nostalgia when the game is such a revolution of the series, in fact people were scared to death of the direction it took and it ended up absolutely and utterly brilliant. This is simply an instance where you won't see me budge even a centimeter. Metroid Prime is a masterpiece.

The fact that you've given it about as much of a shot as Perfect Dark Zero prolly goes a long way to explain your inability to appreciate its qualities. Also, what seems to be a very narrow view of games played from the first person perspective has obviously coloured your impressions of the game, seemingly rendering it overrated based soley on the fact that it doesn't control like Halo. They even state specifically in the Prime 3 review that the more FPS-like control scheme / emphasis on shooting has done more harm than good, and in a lot of ways robbed it of its adventure like pacing and sense of weirdness and solitude.

If I sound harsh it's because I frankly take the notion of Prime being in any way unjustifiably praised as utter insanity. It sits firmly with my top 3 games of all time.

But yes, GS previous scoring system was a big reason for me appreciating the site so much, and I don't really know why they changed it. It reminds me of the high fives in CVG back in the day when that was a good mag. Suddenly they replaced the hand (and high five for 5/5) with fucking stars (!). Hello embracing convention. :O

Sometimes things change just for the sake of it I suppose.

EDIT: I should prolly add that I never played a Metroid game as a kid, and my brief time with Super Metroid totally put me off the series when I was little. I, personally, don't even have anything to feel nostalgic about in regards to Metroid.

I always appreciated that Samus was a female hero without the jugs and skimpy outfits though.

2007-08-28 16:30:35

I'm sure Metroid Prime is wonderful but I doubt that or ANY game this year can top the single player experience of Bioshock.

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2007-08-28 16:35:10 In reply to Phaethon360 (2007-08-28 06:10:29)

Only partly because I ran all my Cube games in 480p. :|

MP3 looks good. They are using a lot of magnatism to get the Wiimote to quickly latch onto enemies, and then a good bit of adhesion, when not locked on, to keep it there. Good software design BUT imo this, more than anything else, is why MP online isn't there. The latency in gesture recognition and then "user aids" wouldn't work online well. If the CPU is latching onto stuff for you, yet the real enemy due to net latency isn't there anymore... Houston, we have a problem!

Game looks good, looks exciting even. Metroid Prime was a bore for me, so this is more my style. Some action :) If it had quality online I could see myself jumping back to my Nintendo roots and telling all you 360 hobbos off, "Look, I got a killer FPS online, Mario and Zelda, and the best fighting game on the market. And it is cheaper, free online, and no rings of death. And I can play with my little boys. 360 who?" But I want HQ racing games, and a lot of quality FPS games online (TF2, CoD4, BiA3, Halo 3, BFBC...) and remember, "Oh, I already got a GCN for Zelda and RE4".

Ahhh Nintendo, the company I hate to love, and love to hate. Maybe they will buy MS?

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2007-08-28 16:36:11

@ Panzer (man I really need to start using the reply button)

I doubt any third game in a series will muster as much enthusiasm and excitement as a completely original experience. For me it never will anyway.

Unless it IS an original experience, but Corruption, like Echoes, was never gonna be.

I hope it's utterly clear that I am talking about the first game in the Prime series in my rantings above.

2007-08-28 16:42:33 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-08-28 16:28:10)

That totally doesn't answer my question.I'll be honest. I sort of enjoyed Full Auto myself.. but at least I don't own it ;)

2007-08-28 17:10:39 In reply to Acert93 (2007-08-28 16:35:10)

Well aren't you a trooper. Didn't know Gamecube rendered widescreen. I never tried hunting down GC component cables either.

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2007-08-28 17:41:01 In reply to Phaethon360 (2007-08-28 17:10:39)

I ordered mine from Hong Kong--they had a VGA end and I ran the cube on my PC CRT :) 21" Mario Kart DD!!

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2007-09-01 18:31:22

Yeeeaaaaa booiii!

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Phaethon, the forum Spectre.

2007-09-01 23:46:20

worst. cover. ever.

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