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Namaiwa
Namaiwa
Since 1033 Days
gmulis
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Since 1324 Days

2007-09-20 02:41:37

like what i'm seeing ...tomorrow is the day hope the gameplay is good

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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1418 Days

2007-09-20 03:03:43

Tri-Ace never fail to impress graphically, i'm quite interested how this plays, they said real time, but I noticed you have 4 part members, so either it plays similar to Star Ocean 3 or Valkerie Profile.

Perhaps its not like either, hope it's better than the average hack and slash rubbish that seems to setting the trend though.

Hope the trailer will be avaliable tomorrow.

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1428 Days

2007-09-20 03:33:05

Looks great can't wait to see it in motion via a trailer or something.

Pretty cool that games like this are coming to the 360.

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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

Freniger
Since 1551 Days

2007-09-20 04:24:57

Anyone know what the story is about? This looks promising.

kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1511 Days

2007-09-20 04:37:46 In reply to Freniger (2007-09-20 04:24:57)

Posted by Freniger
Anyone know what the story is about? This looks promising.
you have to stop some evil guy from doing something. You start out controlling this guy, then a long your journey you gain some companions who also want to stop the evil guy, one of which may be a future love interest. You know, the typical JRPG affair.

spare me kind sir

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Phaethon360
Mr Pantsies Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Since 1381 Days

2007-09-20 04:43:05 In reply to kenshin2418 (2007-09-20 04:37:46)

Posted by kenshin2418
you have to stop some evil guy from doing something. You start out controlling this guy, then a long your journey you gain some companions who also want to stop the evil guy, one of which may be a future love interest. You know, the typical JRPG affair.

spare me kind sir
You SO just spoiled every JRPG ever made...permaban.

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bloodforge
bloodforge
Since 1529 Days

2007-09-20 05:36:20 In reply to Jollipop (2007-09-20 03:03:43)

Posted by Jollipop
Tri-Ace never fail to impress graphically, i'm quite interested how this plays, they said real time, but I noticed you have 4 part members, so either it plays similar to Star Ocean 3 or Valkerie Profile.

Perhaps its not like either, hope it's better than the average hack and slash rubbish that seems to setting the trend though.

Hope the trailer will be avaliable tomorrow.
I'm hoping it plays similar to FFXII, thats what it looks like from some of the screens, but can't really be too sure(though FFXII wasn't really realtime).

It could end up playing like Kingdom Hearts though, with the other 3 characters AI controlled.

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1428 Days

2007-09-20 10:19:31 In reply to bloodforge (2007-09-20 05:36:20)

Posted by bloodforge
I'm hoping it plays similar to FFXII, thats what it looks like from some of the screens, but can't really be too sure(though FFXII wasn't really realtime).

It could end up playing like Kingdom Hearts though, with the other 3 characters AI controlled.
If it plays like FFXII then the game might be a no no :o

It seems its real-time, but I hope its executed differently and in a better manner.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

GriftGFX
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Since 1535 Days

2007-09-20 11:54:33 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-09-20 10:19:31)

Posted by Optimusv2
It seems its real-time, but I hope its executed differently and in a better manner.
Being real time would automatically make it a different manner.

JXB
JXB
Since 867 Days

2007-09-20 12:37:21 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-09-20 11:54:33)

Posted by GriftGFX
Being real time would automatically make it a different manner.
You mean better right?

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1418 Days

2007-09-20 13:38:24 In reply to bloodforge (2007-09-20 05:36:20)

Posted by bloodforge
I'm hoping it plays similar to FFXII, thats what it looks like from some of the screens, but can't really be too sure(though FFXII wasn't really realtime).

It could end up playing like Kingdom Hearts though, with the other 3 characters AI controlled.
Noooooo, don't condem this game to some shite hacky slash thingy. (or even worse a self play gambit system)

I swear you could almost put the gambit on in FF12 and go out for the night and come back and it would still be fighting for you.

Tri-Ace always have something up their sleeve when it comes to realtime battle.

In the MS conference the guy said you need to discovery things to help you defeat mosters and such which sounds kind of interesting.

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SimonM7
SimonM7
Since 1559 Days

2007-09-20 18:43:05

The Gambit system isn't really inherently flawed, if you ask my humble, rather inexperienced jRPG opinion. Removing the grinding from the grind isn't a bad thing in itself, it's just that the difficulty needs to be adjusted accordingly.

The way FF12 handles it is; "if you don't wanna use gambits then don't", but that also means that the game isn't tweaked to respond properly - difficulty wise - to those that get into the gambit system and set them up well. That'd require a whole different attitude towards it in the first place - an attitude I think they were reluctant to have, largely to please both camps.

I think there's greatness to be found in pursuing the gambit system to be honest, but perhaps it's unwise to do such radical things to a series of games people know and love, and love because they know.

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1428 Days

2007-09-20 20:10:37 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-09-20 11:54:33)

Posted by GriftGFX
Being real time would automatically make it a different manner.
Yea just don't want it to be like ff12 because that's just bad execution in my opinion.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

bloodforge
bloodforge
Since 1529 Days

2007-09-20 20:38:23

Wow at all the FFXII hate.

kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1511 Days

2007-09-20 20:41:00

I didn't have a problem with FFXII's battle system. I wasn't a fan of it, nor did I exactly hate it. Guess I was in the middle, as in, I could deal with it. Still, I think they should have stuck with the battle system from FFX, personally.

In regarding IU, if it's anything similar to SO3's battle system, then I will be greatly pleased. When are we suppose to be getting the trailer, anyway?

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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 1428 Days

2007-09-20 20:49:39 In reply to bloodforge (2007-09-20 20:38:23)

Posted by bloodforge
Wow at all the FFXII hate.
It isn't blind hate or anything I just really don't think the system is well done. It changes the game so much that I don't even know if I should really call it final fantasy anymore. The system wasn't fun for me and I don't like what became of the summons which were once one of the cooler parts of the game.

It just comes down to taste ultimately. Some don't like turn based and some don't like ff12's system. From what I've read about infinite it does appear to be real-time, but it doesn't seem as if it it'll be done like ff12.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

bloodforge
bloodforge
Since 1529 Days

2007-09-20 20:58:05 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-09-20 20:49:39)

Posted by Optimusv2
It isn't blind hate or anything I just really don't think the system is well done. It changes the game so much that I don't even know if I should really call it final fantasy anymore. The system wasn't fun for me and I don't like what became of the summons which were once one of the cooler parts of the game.
So by changing up the gameplay its no longer a Final Fantasy game? I think it added something new to a series that was becoming stale and boring, IMO. To each his own I guess.
Posted by Kenshin2418
In regarding IU, if it's anything similar to SO3's battle system, then I will be greatly pleased. When are we suppose to be getting the trailer, anyway?
I've never played SO3, how does the battle system work in that game?

kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1511 Days

2007-09-20 23:12:41 In reply to bloodforge (2007-09-20 20:58:05)

Posted by bloodforge
I've never played SO3, how does the battle system work in that game?
I'll make this short, but pretty similar to the tales games, but with a bit more depth in the system, and overall just better. You have up to 3 members in your party, and you can switch who you are controlling during battles. The others are of course controlled by AI. There are weak, strong attacks, guard, and block. You switch characters by pressing R1 or L1 I believe(been a while since I've played). You can pull off and string combos, just like in the Tales games too. One thing that was kind of weird, was that if your HP or MP reached 0, your character would die. So it kind of made you a bit more careful with your magic use.

Also, the area where I though the game really shines is the amount of customization you can do on your characters/equipment, which is pretty in depth(something I thought the tales games was lacking). I wasn't a big fan of SO3 story, but the battle system easily made up for it. This concludes my short description.

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GriftGFX
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Since 1535 Days

2007-09-20 23:15:36 In reply to JXB (2007-09-20 12:37:21)

Posted by JXB
You mean better right?
Nope.

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 1418 Days

2007-09-20 23:28:43 In reply to kenshin2418 (2007-09-20 23:12:41)

Posted by kenshin2418
I'll make this short, but pretty similar to the tales games, but with a bit more depth in the system, and overall just better. You have up to 3 members in your party, and you can switch who you are controlling during battles. The others are of course controlled by AI. There are weak, strong attacks, guard, and block. You switch characters by pressing R1 or L1 I believe(been a while since I've played). You can pull off and string combos, just like in the Tales games too. One thing that was kind of weird, was that if your HP or MP reached 0, your character would die. So it kind of made you a bit more careful with your magic use.

Also, the area where I though the game really shines is the amount of customization you can do on your characters/equipment, which is pretty in depth(something I thought the tales games was lacking). I wasn't a big fan of SO3 story, but the battle system easily made up for it. This concludes my short description.
You forgot the most important bit, that it was semi realtime, when you entered the menu system to use items,spells etc the game would freeze allowing you to do what you needed without the hassle of being slapped about.

And seriously comparing it to a Tales game is guna get you a slap...!!

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kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1511 Days

2007-09-20 23:34:29 In reply to Jollipop (2007-09-20 23:28:43)

Posted by Jollipop
You forgot the most important bit, that it was semi realtime

And seriously comparing it to a Tales game is guna get you a slap...!!
Tales is semi-realtime too :P


Also, i would of compared it to KH if I could! Anyway, you can check around the nets at others impressions of the system, and many compare it to the Tales games too. So I'm not the only one who thought that. You've a lot of slaps to give out! :p

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kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1511 Days

2007-09-21 00:12:46 In reply to Jollipop (2007-09-20 23:28:43)

Posted by Jollipop
when you entered the menu system to use items,spells etc the game would freeze allowing you to do what you needed without the hassle of being slapped about.
oops, didn't complete my original sentence. Yeah, Tales had this too, like Tales of Rebirth for instance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XISSGcIq-64

Your move Sherlock :p

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kenshin2418
Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1511 Days

2007-09-21 02:20:59

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=25-pauib_Wg
here's the TGS trailer finally

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gmulis
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Since 1324 Days

2007-09-21 02:37:52 In reply to kenshin2418 (2007-09-21 02:20:59)

Posted by kenshin2418
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=25-pauib_Wg
here's the TGS trailer finally
wow that was awesome....seriously i hope 360 owners support these games

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