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| Acert93 Mr. Bad Cop Since 1508 Days |
2006-10-01 22:57:01 In reply to GriftGFX (2006-10-01 21:47:10) Posted by GriftGFX Explain..you can't control vehicles well outside of the cockpit view in BF. As for 3rd person in BF series, I flew planes in 42 in 3rd person a lot, specifically when bombing. Jeeps always in 3rd person as their first person was offset and poorly done. In BF2 hummers and the buggies I am always 3rd person as again the cockpits were pretty poor IMO (at least in the hummer) and you do get a wider FOV. Jets and Helos I use the Nose Cam instead of Cockpit. If a game does the cockpit well I am all for it. In BF games many (but not all) of the vehicles have obtrustive cockpits. Obviously the game genre has general issues (e.g. you are not flying at thousands of feet, and in general you don't want to be in a dive bombing position just to target, etc) but I don't think Dice has ever gone out of their way to make cockpits in ALL vehicles workable/enjoyable. This is where PGR3 shines IMO. When I have played I never felt like the cockpit made it impossible to race, and I felt much "closer" to the atmosphere -- almost like in a real car. After a while you kind of feel that way too... in 3rd person, yeah you see better, but it is more of a "game" whereas in the cockpit it is more of an "experience". And not a bad one IMO. --- |
| LEBATO IS WRONG  Since 1659 Days |
2006-10-01 23:08:06 The cockpit view in PGR3 is amazing, it's a bit too far, but still works nicely. The perfect cockpit view should only allow you to see like 1/3 of the wheel at most, that way you see more (outside, where it matters), and it's more realistic. --- |
| GriftGFX He can also ban your ass!  Since 1537 Days |
2006-10-01 23:13:05 In reply to Acert93 (2006-10-01 22:57:01) Posted by Acert93 Most servers have the "nose cam" enabled and allowed 3rd person. Cockpits in many vehicles, esp 42, are so obtrustive you cannot see anything (PGR3 does a good job of not making it hard to see the actual road... some natural obstruction, but the road is still viewable imo). As for 3rd person in BF series, I flew planes in 42 in 3rd person a lot, specifically when bombing. Jeeps always in 3rd person as their first person was offset and poorly done. In BF2 hummers and the buggies I am always 3rd person as again the cockpits were pretty poor IMO (at least in the hummer) and you do get a wider FOV. Jets and Helos I use the Nose Cam instead of Cockpit. Some games of simular nature let you aim in third person cam, which I don't particularly like. If a game does the cockpit well I am all for it. In BF games many (but not all) of the vehicles have obtrustive cockpits. Obviously the game genre has general issues (e.g. you are not flying at thousands of feet, and in general you don't want to be in a dive bombing position just to target, etc) but I don't think Dice has ever gone out of their way to make cockpits in ALL vehicles workable/enjoyable. This is where PGR3 shines IMO. When I have played I never felt like the cockpit made it impossible to race, and I felt much "closer" to the atmosphere -- almost like in a real car. After a while you kind of feel that way too... in 3rd person, yeah you see better, but it is more of a "game" whereas in the cockpit it is more of an "experience". And not a bad one IMO. I'm a tank, and I play almost exclusively in my cockpit view, only go to third person if I need to see directly behind myself quickly. |
| Acert93 Mr. Bad Cop Since 1508 Days |
2006-10-01 23:43:27 Oh, I use the nose cam if I can! But I wish the cockpits were done well enough that some servers did "cockpit only"... would rock for a WWII game! But yes, some vehicles require nose-cam like the Helos. --- |
Optimusv2 Since 1430 Days |
2006-10-02 00:57:09 As a matter of fact in pgr3 I can ONLY play in the in car view... it isn't just a wow cool feature at all. PGR3 simply put sucks (in my opinion) without that in car view. It gives an overall better sense of speed than the outside view does. --- |
Jin187 Since 1282 Days |
2006-10-02 16:31:23 In reply to Jato (2006-10-01 22:23:07) Posted by Jato  Yeah this picture looks great and all, but it's not how it looks on your average HDTV. I'm not quite sure what it is, I think it's the way the lighting is captured that makes it look more realistic, but the game never looks as realistic as that screen on your HDTV. And yes, the cockpit view works like a charm and I do feel much more comfortable using it rather than a 3rd person view... |
lukasblue Since 1284 Days |
2006-10-02 16:43:30 This picture looks like it has been taken from hi-def projector. Pgr3 looks VERY good (photoreal) on projectors. --- |
SimonM7 Since 1561 Days |
2006-10-02 19:04:36 LCD brings out the insane jaggies in PGR3, while a plasma or projector fuzzies it up enough to hide them. Even on a CRT I'd claim the game looks more convincing than on an LCD TV. --- |
| GriftGFX He can also ban your ass! Since 1537 Days |
2006-10-02 19:12:00 In reply to SimonM7 (2006-10-02 19:04:36) Posted by SimonM7 LCD brings out the insane jaggies in PGR3, while a plasma or projector fuzzies it up enough to hide them. Even on a CRT I'd claim the game looks more convincing than on an LCD TV. It's a fair trade though, I find that almost every other game looks better on LCD, so... Still, the jaggies, while aparent on my monitor, don't prevent it from being one of the best looking 360 games to date. |
Jato Since 1414 Days |
2006-10-02 22:27:18 In reply to Jin187 (2006-10-02 16:31:23) Posted by Jin187 Maybe you need to try configuring your contrast or brightness levels on your HDTV or maybe you need to buy a decent HDTV because as you can see, this picture has been taken off screen, and it looks just as realistic as this on my TV. I've tried many contrast and brightness levels, and none of those make the game look like that. Also, that's exactly my point, when a picture is taken of a game running on an HDTV, it seems to add some sort of lighting effect that makes it look more realistic. And I've seen this with several games, not just PGR3 and not just on my HDTV either... --- |
vspectra06 Since 2244 Days |
2007-03-27 01:42:11 edit |
| vspectra06 Since 2244 Days |
2007-03-27 01:43:33 In reply to Jato (2006-10-01 22:23:07) Posted by Jato http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4066/90ia3.jpg Yeah this picture looks great and all, but it's not how it looks on your average HDTV. I'm not quite sure what it is, I think it's the way the lighting is captured that makes it look more realistic, but the game never looks as realistic as that screen on your HDTV. And yes, the cockpit view works like a charm and I do feel much more comfortable using it rather than a 3rd person view... |
| GriftGFX He can also ban your ass! Since 1537 Days |
2007-03-27 01:56:10 Blast from the past. |
| LEBATO IS WRONG Since 1659 Days |
2007-03-27 03:01:25 WTF? LOCK, DELETE, BAN. --- |
| GriftGFX He can also ban your ass! Since 1537 Days |
2007-03-27 03:05:02 That's all a bit much, we'll just go with lock. |
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