2008-04-21 19:18:43

Indeed, after blue dragon my faith had kinda vanished in sakaguchi... man it is just kick ass

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2008-04-21 20:48:02 In reply to ManThatYouFear (2008-04-21 19:18:43)

:D

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2008-04-21 22:47:24

Finally finished it today aswell, some 75hrs invested into it with all but teasure trove completed, ain't enjoyed any rpg as much since FF:X which really shows how good LO actually is.

I just hope sakaguchi feels that it was a success and is a franchise worth growing because there is so much scope for improvement, not that it detracts much from how good LO actually is but there are things that i think would make the game all the more enjoyable and even increase the actual playtime cause at 75 hrs it feels as if i have accomplished everything (even with that missing achievement).

It's a shame it's split over 4 DVD's, it limits the use of the world map which i think is a serious step back and have done since FF:X did it, wish they would do some kind of HD install to at least get us to the world map earlier in the adventure (yes i know we saw it briefly in disc 2 but it was really just smoke and mirrors, couldnt go too far).

It's just something i thought they had perfected with the PS1 gen games and added so much to the feeling that the game is bigger than it actually is, and the shortcut to jump straight to locations, although extremely useful at times again negated the use of any sort of world map. Plus the fact that you're never actually on foot across the continents never really gives you a sense of perspective which is a real shame. Heck, i couldnt even point you to where most of the locations are on the world map, or even where they are in relation to each other...i could however tell you where they are on the list...

Another thing they need to do is add some more sidequests to the game, FF always had card games or chocobos or whatever (certainly in the more recent iterations) that although aren't needed add an extra depth to the world, it just feels more vibrant if the characters have more ways to interact with the world other than fighting and talking. The golden saucer was a great way to add depth, so many mini games.

2008-04-22 01:53:30

Ok explain to me how being over 4 disc limits the map, I duno if you noticed but all map locations from disc 1,2 and 3 are excessable in 4.

Just as any PS1 FF game was also.

I don't think what you are saying had much to do with disc space than to do with development time and cost, not to mention that UE3 with its apparent loading problems would probably struggle with streaming much like ME did.

After all if a PS1 game can have a full world map even thought it was split over 4 disc and allow access to all of those locations then im sure the same can be done for a 360 game.

I don't think the use of multiply disc detracted from the game personally.

There are mini games in LO, such as the music box and the battle cage, perhaps they aren't as in depth as Tetramaster or Blitzball but that could also be down to development time and cost again.

You should realise that Mistwalker isn't SE and doesn't have the same resources at its disposal.

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2008-04-22 12:46:28

I understand the limit of their funding, im just saying ways to improve upon what is already there.

What i was getting at with the 4 disc thing is that there is considerably less story on the 4th disc to accomodate all the resources for every location, if they had put the world map on every disc as open as it is in disc 4 i very much doubt the amount of story / dialogue / cutscenes would fit on less than 6 discs.
With the PS1 gen games they didn't have to worry about voices and the cutscenes were of a much lower quality so didn't impact upon the disc usage as much, not to mention texture and model quality.
I don't have a problem with multi disc games, I perhaps worded my post a little ambiguously, it's what we lived with in the ps1 era and im sure given time games will outgrow any single disc medium.
I think the 4 disc thing is going off on a tangent on what i was trying to get at which is more the design and use of the world map which is very much in keeping with the newer FF games since X which as I said before i just feel makes the game world seem so much smaller than it actually is, im sure location wise it rivals any other game but it just feels tight, compact and very much linear provided you don't do the sidequests. It's just something I would love to see them change for future games.

The minigames that you mention fit into the combat category though in both instances, thats what i was getting at, just something to break it up a bit, but again this is more for future additions.

2008-04-22 14:31:13

I still cant understand where all the space was taken up in all honesty yes there was a lot of footage, but enough to cover all them disks ? most the footage was in engine as well, very little was PURE sexy video. i was confused where all that data was, but hell who cares IT RULES!

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STREET FIGHTER 4, BRING IT ON!

2008-04-22 16:39:46 In reply to ManThatYouFear (2008-04-22 14:31:13)

I agree with you there, any game that can get me to complete it has to be something special, nevermind to stick with it for 75hrs+.

2008-04-28 23:22:42

This is LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWF7peZocME

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2008-04-28 23:47:34 In reply to ACEfromRussia (2008-04-28 23:22:42)

ROFL!!!!!!

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NARUTO/AVATAR are the best anime EVER!!!
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2008-04-29 00:53:41

Heh, they should make an anime with that art style :D

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Marumaro for the WIN !!

2008-04-29 01:07:30 In reply to ACEfromRussia (2008-04-28 23:22:42)

That was cool :D

2008-04-29 01:12:41 In reply to ACEfromRussia (2008-04-28 23:22:42)

WTH?

Should have some time this week to finish the game, cant wait.

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Bitches!!

2008-04-29 07:07:55

It doesn't get any less disturbing each time I see those...

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2008-04-29 16:36:14

PS. The downloadable content that hit Japan a few weeks ago is now on the euro/us marketplaces. This is NOT the underwater research facility, this is the one with the new dream, ring and the memory lamp.

More details here:
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=13...

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NARUTO/AVATAR are the best anime EVER!!!
Bring on LOST ODYSSEY & CRY ON!

2008-05-05 19:29:32

Never thought I'd be into it. Never played JRPGs before, so didn't expect it to be special. But my god it's really great. It kinda ruined my GTA experiance because I tried to finish it as fast as possible for the sake of being able to play LO again, lol.

2008-05-07 11:00:48 In reply to Viginti_Tres (2008-05-05 19:29:32)

:D Sweet I am glad you're enjoying the game.

Does anyone know when we will et to have that new underwater dungeon that Japan has ???

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NARUTO/AVATAR are the best anime EVER!!!
Bring on LOST ODYSSEY & CRY ON!

2008-05-24 13:22:47

Lost Odyssey Dungeon Pack: Seeker of the Deep DLC

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/marketplace/l/losto...

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2008-05-24 14:53:25 In reply to NeoNemesis (2008-05-24 13:22:47)

YES Finally Woooooot!!!!! was waiting for this one anyone know if it has anty optional bosses ???

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2008-05-25 00:09:47 In reply to alimokrane (2008-05-24 14:53:25)

1 new boss, I think.

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2008-05-25 09:49:17

About time!!

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2008-05-26 02:28:50

Its up on MP.

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2008-05-26 11:25:25 In reply to NeoNemesis (2008-05-25 00:09:47)

Just one ?? that's too bad I was hoping for more. Will get it anyway, considering I spent only £26 on the game from play asia :D

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2008-05-27 04:19:58 In reply to alimokrane (2008-05-26 11:25:25)

Yea just one. I'm planning on getting it as well once I get more MS points.

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"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

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2008-07-12 11:10:57

So did anyone buy the dungeon DLC on live and could give us some impressions ? To be honest I am SOOO against charging for game content that should have been in the game but I am finding it hard resisting this.

Any impressions would be very welcome. cheers

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