New Samsung 9000 Series HDTV

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6685 Days
Check the video out and see how thin this TV is, less than 4mm's thick supposedly, pretty inpressive.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/07/samsung-9000-se...
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GriftGFX
Since 6802 Days
Pretty cool.. but I have to wonder.. how thin does a TV really need to be?
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6685 Days
Yea I would be scared to break it in all honesty, it does look neat though.
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LEBATO
Since 6924 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Pretty cool.. but I have to wonder.. how thin does a TV really need to be?
I was going to say the exact same thing. I mean, in a home, I see absolutely no need for something that thin. What's the gain here you know? Just show off and pay more?
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Viginti_Tres
Viginti_Tres
Since 6304 Days
The remote of that TV is more impressive, imo.
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Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6694 Days
LMFAO, I'd be afraid of a sneeze snapping that thing in half.
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docLEXfisti
docLEXfisti
Since 6921 Days
I'd be most afraid of the fact that it is a Samsung ;))
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Inflatable
Inflatable
Since 7440 Days
I'm looking for a new (HD)TV myself.. After reading many stuff about them and some reviews by AV(nerd)websites, I've cut down my choice to bassicly 3 TV's.. To make it interesting, all 3 use different tech, there's 1 regular LCD, 1 (edge)LED LCD, and 1 Plasma..

* Samsung LE40C650 (LCD)730,--
* Samsung UE40C6000 (LED) 1079,--
* Panasonic TX-P42G20 (Plasma) 1048,--

The LE40C650 is Samsung's new 2010 LCD model, which has all the specs and features I want, very good picturequality for an LCD, my only issue with it is that it seems to have above average input lag, which makes gaming on it myabe not a good thing.. Best thing, it's the cheapest of the bunch..

The UE40C6000 is bassicly a LE40C650 but then thinner because of the LED edge-backlighting.. It lacks some features like internet@TV etc, but it may have even better picturequality, is less powerhungry, but is also more then 300 euro's more expensive then the regular LCD C650 model, and is it worth it to pay that much extra for just a slimmer TV? I also haven't found any good reviews of this TV yet, so I don't know if input lag is an issue with this TV aswell just like with the C650..

The TX-P42G20 is Panasonic's new 2010 Plasma TV, and according to the reviews the best HDTV to get atm (for it's price).. Best quality picture, best motion handling (0,001ms responsetime, way better then any LCD), only 19ms of input lag, so good for gaming aswell.. My only issue with it is, it's a Plasma, and I'm still not convinced all the old issue's with that are now fixed, like imageretention, greyness when in a light room, and degrading picturequality over time.. Also kindof bad is that it uses way more power then the LCD's..

Which one to choose? Only thing left to do is check them out in real life in some specialized stores, get to know as much as possible from the salesmen, do some testing, and then make my choice.. I kindof hate these situations, because I'm always affraid to make the wrong choice..
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6685 Days
Personally I wouldn't touch a Plasma, yes they are better than they used to be, but they are more suited to home cinema than gaming IMO.
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Inflatable
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Since 7440 Days
Infact according to all the tests I've read the plasma is by far the best TV to game on.. That's because most new LCD's have way more input lag and still way more motion lag (plasma has 0.001ms responsetime).. But I didn't buy the Panasonic Plasma because I saw some flickering in the screen (like it was 60Hz?), which sucked because otherwise the TV was perfect for me.. I already feared I would see it, because I read in tests some people do and I knew I was sensitive to it aswell, and I was right unfortunatly.. Both Samsungs I dropped aswell because of high input lag when gaming, unless you turn on gamemode which makes imagequality go down the hill.. So surprisingly I bought a late 2009 model LG 42SL8000.. Imagequality matches that of the Samsungs as far as I could tell, it is 42" instead of 40", and it has less input lag when gaming without having to sacrifice imagequality.. I've had it for 4 days now, and it's perfect for me.. Regular digital and HD channels look awesome, and Xbox 360 gaming on 1080p (especially RDR) is simply stunning..
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Since 6802 Days
Posted by Jollipop
Personally I wouldn't touch a Plasma, yes they are better than they used to be, but they are more suited to home cinema than gaming IMO.
Yeah... how so?

I have an old plasma and it rocks!
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roxwell
Since 6750 Days
I have a Panny plasma and it's awesome at everything it does.
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Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6685 Days
They still suffer from image retention, and the black levels will change over its life span due to the nature of the gas in the pixels.

I would rather have a slightly grey black than an almost perfect black with a static image of a score counter stuck in the corner of my screen from a game i played 30 mins before, stuff like that drives me mad.

Like I say though Plasma are deffinately the best option for Cinema because of the black levels, but I wouldn't game on one.
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roxwell
Since 6750 Days
You'd be silly then as plasmas have virtually no gaming lag.
Still, I doubt that really matters on a turn based JRPG :p
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6685 Days
Im not talking about lag though, I'm talking about image retention, when a pixel stays slightly lite when it goes dark, it can cause image ghosting aswell which is something else I don't like about gas driven TV's CRT included.

I dont' just play JRPG's either :D
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Optimusv2
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Since 6694 Days
Posted by roxwell
You'd be silly then as plasmas have virtually no gaming lag.
Still, I doubt that really matters on a turn based JRPG :p
Flag on the play, off sides, flagrant foul.

What a cheap shot. Keep it above the belt :P
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anm8rjp
anm8rjp
Since 7499 Days
I have a 2010 7000 series 63" Samsung plasma... my other plasma was a Samsung 58" from 2009, that my dad bought off of me.

Yes they do have burn in issues, but they have settings to run "overnight" to help alleviate the problem as well as you can burn an ISO image of a screen save from the AVS forums that will help the burn in process on Plasmas.


Plasmas have better viewing angles as well, and better response times.

My only complaint with mine is the menu settings are a bit complex. My new 7000 series is also 3D enabled, which I haven't tried yet at home. I don't want to spend so much for the 3D glasses. The demos in the store is great. Even the 2D to 3D conversion is impressive. But over $150 USD for glasses... c'mon. I do think games will be the killer app for 3D, though.
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6685 Days
^ I know someone with the same TV, very nice set for cinema, I have seen slight burn in on his screen from games though, not massively but its still there and would be enough to drive me nuts.

Can't beat black levels on a plasma though.
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Frozpot
Frozpot
Since 6561 Days
I've had my Samsung(SP01, I think) for 4 years now, and it's goin' like a champ, blacks aren't the best but it was top-o-the-line when I bought it. Samsung has got me as far as TV's go. Next stop- LED with 3d capabilities. Now where did I put my knock-out-my-wife-so-I-can-get-a-new-TV-that-I-totally-don't-need stick?....
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6685 Days
Future HDTV tech ? these panals are transparent :O

OLED flexiscreen

OLED transparent laptop screen
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