2007-07-30 09:51:14

I have to, for god's sake ;)

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2007-07-30 09:55:48 In reply to Sath (2007-07-30 08:02:10)

And We will convert you ... You better watch your back ;)

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2007-07-30 10:10:57

I'm not, I'M NOT!!! :D

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2007-07-30 10:14:42 In reply to alimokrane (2007-07-30 09:55:48)

I don't need to watch my back, Commander Shepard will :P
He will order Wrex to be on his guard on my back for evil "fiends" (you guys) haha.

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2007-07-30 10:27:17 In reply to Sath (2007-07-30 10:14:42)

/Casts Confuse on Commander Shepard, he now liks JRPGs HA ha! ;P

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2007-07-30 11:15:43

I'm probably just going to give it a rent now.

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2007-07-30 11:22:29

I have it already on pre-order for a couple of months now.

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2007-07-30 13:17:16

BD and LO to me :)

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2007-07-30 13:55:09 In reply to Freniger (2007-07-30 05:21:19)

Thats where taste comes in. If there is any major complaint I have about the game's combat is I wish there were more limit break type abilities per character other than the few "real" form each character's shadow gets. I think the combat is great personally and I enjoy it.

My only wish and I think people might've remembered me talking about this in detail about wanting to see a lot of this from blue dragon. I wished each character's shadow had more limit break type abilites, but I suppose they'll be saving that for the sequel where the users will have a more advanced knowledge of how to use the shadows.

Sath we'll get you don't worry I have a secret weapon that I've been waiting to unleash for quite sometime now and I plan to show it to you 4 days before the release of Blue Dragon and you will officially be a blue dragon fanboy :)

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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-07-30 14:52:36 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-07-30 13:55:09)

You honestly think you can beat Heretics stradegy for convertion?
Well if you think you can, try out, I don't see the harm. It's not like I will try and understand it, but hey, it can be your hobby trying to convince me :P

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2007-07-30 15:04:46

PAL pack shot. That wasn't terribly exciting. :|

2007-07-30 15:11:56

Not me. I thought, i would like this but it doesn't tickle my fancy.

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2007-07-30 15:14:23 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-07-30 15:04:46)

This is the Jap box art simon not PAL/US .... this has definately been edited. the real PAL/US cover art can be found at http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/games/b/bluedragonxbox36...

EDIT:

Bigger Version here;
http://www.image-serveur.com/uploads/208749e649.jp...

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2007-07-30 15:26:16 In reply to Myro (2007-07-30 15:11:56)

haha damn... this is a major shock you were one of the people that wanted it as bad as me I think. At one point wasn't your sig "When Blue Dragon releases we'll see who the real blue dragon fan is?"

Nothing wrong with deciding it isn't for you, but you seemed pretty excited about it before.

Really like the boxart at first I thought they'd go with something more out there, but that definitely gets the job done. If I knew absolutely nothing about Blue Dragon prior seeing that case and the character looking sorta like a dbz character along with that cool dragon behind him I'd definitely purchase the game if I saw it in a store.

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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-07-30 15:26:49

I was going to but the demo kind of turned me off, I forgot how much I hate Turn-Based combat systems.

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2007-07-30 15:32:28 In reply to alimokrane (2007-07-30 15:14:23)

Weird. Gamefront reported this on the 24th and that's what the one looks like on most online stores right now.

http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=11294&m... for instance.

2007-07-30 15:37:13 In reply to Panzer83 (2007-07-30 15:26:49)

Well the way I see it is I expect anyone to be bored by just getting the combat aspect of an RPG. RPGS are all about reaching those moments where you are rewarded with some more insight into the story and get a chance to just relax and find out more about the characters. About arriving at a really cool looking town or place and just enjoying the surroundings.

There was no way the demo could deliver such a thing really and the terrible english voice acting certainly didn't help much. The things I mentioned are what ultimately makes someone bare with turn based combat. Atleast thats how it is for me might be different for others.

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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

2007-07-30 15:56:26

All you said is true Op, there is much more to RPGs than just the combat.

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2007-07-30 16:15:07 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-07-30 15:32:28)

Oh! that's a good point. It seesm the US one is the one I posted and the PAL one is the one YOU posted ... what a shame cauz I really like the US cover. I checked Amazon.com and EBgames.com and they have the US cover whislt play and amazon.co.uk have the boring one .... Oh well, it's the contents that matter right :)

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2007-07-30 16:17:09 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-07-30 15:37:13)

I couldnt agree more although I do like the combat very much and it never is tedious if you ask me. I hated Final Fantasy XII so much, I didnt like the direction the combat has taken AT ALL, yet I still want FF XIII despite its combat looking like the on in FF12.

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2007-07-30 20:43:23

Here is the German Cover

http://www.gfdata.de/archiv07-2007-gamefront/blupa...

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2007-07-30 21:13:06 In reply to Salarien (2007-07-30 20:43:23)

Salarien, the link isnt working and I cant find it on the website. Could you save the picture and upload it on an image hosting website like here: http://www.image-serveur.com

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2007-07-31 11:56:53

I loved the demo, but I have to very, very honest. After playing the Eternal Sonata demo, it's taken a higher rung on the ladder than Blue Dragon.

I really do not care much for jRPGs any longer. It's hard to believe that I have literally wasted thousands of hours of my life, whiling away in games across this genre for pretty much, most the the almost 30 years I have been gaming. But when you consider that some of the best moments in videogaming history can be found in classics like Phantasy Star, and ChronoTrigger and Secret of Mana and Dragon Quest and Lunar, and Dragon Force and Far East of Eden and Shining Force and Landstalker and The Legend of Zelda and Shenmue and Grandia and Beyond Oasis and Skies of Arcadia and Panzer Dragoon Saga and tons of other jRPGs and jActionRPGs that I have played over the years, it is easy to see why a fella would waste so much of his time so.

Unfortunately, the jRPG has for the most part, stagnated as I have continued to grow. I desire a greater experience than most jRPG developers are willing to give these days, and so I find the entire experience, for the most part boring and tiring - especially after playing Panzer Dragoon Saga, which I feel is the epitome of the genre and one of an extreme small handful of games in the genre that was honestly attempting to evolve the genre into some more dynamic than what it has been since the original DG, FF and PS surfaced over 20 years ago and led the jRPG to dominance in the RPG space.

Ultimately, almost all jRPGs are still the same game that the original Phantasy Star/Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest were all those long years ago. They have gotten prettier, and maybe even a bit more "epicy", but they really have not actually done anything progressively different. For the most part, they all still follow the same tried and test patterns. Meanwhile, their Western counterparts, who actually inspired the creation of the jRPG, have evolved in leaps and bounds, especially in the last decade. Each studio producing wRPGs have a distinctive style, flavor and feeling all their own, that is not in any way interchangeable with products from their counterpart studios here in the West. And each iteration, these studios are bring more to the table, evolving the product by leaps and bounds. Perfect example: Mass Effect, Fable 2 and Oblivion are all wRPGs, yet are all distinctively extremely different experiences. Yet when I look at Lost Odyssey and Last Remnant, the similarities are almost appalling; outside of certain minutia, the overall experience between both titles, is going to be something remarkably the same. It's literally like, color by numbers game development.

All that said, maybe for nostalgia's sake, but I do have a hankering for a proper jRPG - I get that every once in a blue moon these days. Of the two demos that I have already played so far, Eternal Sonata is easily the better of the two. So ES is definitely going to take precedence over the purchase of Blue Dragon. Meanwhile, I have a gut feeling that Blue Dragon may be in possession of the more . . . epic story, and it is a story that I really want to see played out to it's end. So I think that I probably will wind up getting Blue Dragon, just not right away. Maybe if the games were not releasing a mere three weeks apart, I would likely pick up Blue Dragon on day of release, but honestly, I can only take so much jRPG at any one time before I have to walk away from the genre for a while and recharge my batteries on something else.

In the case that I cannot resist temptation and do pick up both games on each's day of release, then this will be the first time since Y2K that I have had the stomach to play multiple jRPGs back to back. But then Shenmue, Grandia 2 and Skies of Arcadia were instant classics and all bona fide masterpieces not to be missed by anyone. And I honestly do not know if Eternal Sonata, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey are different enough and have as much of the right stuff going for them as those three Dreamcast classics from 2000, to warrant the purchase of all three of them less than six months apart - each.

I guess we will see soon enough.

2007-07-31 12:07:59

I have to agree with you unfettered; jRPGs are getting tiresome with the same patterns and predictions over and over again, that even goes for BD.

Man but those classics you mentioned bring back good old times. I really loved Skies of arcadia and Shenmue. When I first got on that airship on Skies of arcadia it was an instant classic. With shenmue it was everything. I must play Grandia 2 now that you have mentioned it with the other 2 games.

2007-07-31 14:50:07

I get what you guys are saying, but these types of games are something people will always love.

I think new interesting characters, story, or game world even with the traditional aspects of the game are always worth the price of entry.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite