2007-02-19 06:52:10 ND: We aimed too high for our PS3 game at first

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-a...

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"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

2007-02-19 08:11:40

I would like to see it before I believe it.

EDIT: Doh! I had no clue what this was about. Thought it was KZ2.

2007-02-19 08:11:59

Err what the hell is this about ?

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2007-02-19 08:14:40 In reply to ManThatYouFear (2007-02-19 08:11:59)

2007-02-19 08:27:01

Did I read that right, the E3 teaser was a target render pretty much, but now they are near the teasers quality?

Either I read that wrong or something, cause wouldn't that make this good news?

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2007-02-19 09:44:52 In reply to kenshin2418 (2007-02-19 08:27:01)

Also translated by Blim

2007-02-19 14:10:05

I still don't know what this is about..

I'm guessing the Naughty Dog project, Wasn't all that impressed with it in the first place.. hmmm

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2007-02-19 14:35:09

Ok i rewatched it and i guess i forgot how good it looked.

http://www.naughtydog.com/comingsoon/index.html

Reminds me of a male Tomb Raider though, I wonder if the Next Tomb Raider will look just as good.

EDIT



Thats looks hugely downgraded.

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2007-02-19 18:00:47

Well, certain aspects of it do, but the character model is ace. We had this "downgradeton" covered in the other thread though. I don't see the big deal--it's certainly a lot closer to the target render than Motorstorm (which looks fantastic, don't get me wrong).

It does remind me of Tomb Raider. I hope the gameplay reminds me of Tomb Raider too. The setting/enviroment almost remind me of Flashback for some reason.

Goddamn that was one hell of a game.

2007-02-19 18:03:32

Sod tombraider reminds me of indy and the indian game was truelly awesome.

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My comments on this game/machine been good or bad does not mean i like/hate the machine i am not a fan nor a hater, just i have a opinion and wish to share it.

2007-02-19 20:16:50

well they say they reached 90% of the the trailer quality, so it will still look amazing.

2007-02-19 20:24:16

Well im sorry but that screen above isn't 90% of the trailer, I don't even thing the Human model is that good.

They may say 90% but, it's pretty much like the whole Forza 2 thing (PR damage control), as time goes on the difference will become more and more apparent.

I actually think Alone in the Dark 5 is looking better than this at the moment, obviously early screens and things will change, but right now it's not looking very good to me.

I would have much prefered to see a next gen Jak and Daxter than this.

Hopefully they do obtain the 90% as the trailer is quite impressive. (but i will believe it when i see it)

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2007-02-19 22:32:16

I think the character model looks really good. The only thing that really stands out to me (and they've done a decent job at trying to make sure it doesn't) is where the foliage is actually 2D--that's a bit of an eyesore once you notice it. The aliasing honestly doesn't even bother me that much. After seeing how good Gears looks with zero AA--I'm less likely to get worked up about that.

2007-02-20 01:12:27 In reply to Martijn_ (2007-02-19 20:16:50)

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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

2007-02-20 01:14:46

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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

2007-02-20 07:39:09 In reply to NeoNemesis (2007-02-20 01:14:46)

2007-02-20 10:52:52

The player model looks more detailed to me (check the hand), but with aliasing. I really don't see as much of a "downgrade" as is being complained about.

2007-02-20 11:29:02

I don't think he is trolling Grift.

I would say TR Legends could give it a run for its money in that state.. *pics above*
(The thing with TR:L though is that it was a port, as i said above I expect the Next TR to look just as good if not better than this)

It's certainly not a huge leap from TR:L though.

It doesn't look like they are using HDR in this game, or in the screens above, the lighting is horrible.

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2007-02-20 14:19:08

If you look at the 3D turnaround, it's easy to take note of the fact that the lighting is being skewed by the muzzle flash. The polycount however, especially on the character level, is way beyond Tomb Raider Legend. TR is pretty light on the details in general--it had a nice lighting upgrade and some nice textures but that's about it--and it often ran sub 30fps @ 720p.

I wouldn't assume this was a [not so] stealthy troll if it weren't for the fact that we've already discussed the "downgrade" in another thread. If the point of this thread isn't to take shots at a Sony first party developer for an apparent downgrade, than I don't know what the point is exactly.

Does it looks worse than the [pre-rendered] video? Yes. Did they say it was real time? Yes. ZOMG LIES!!! now can we move on? Or do I have to sell my PS3 and jump on the Wii60 bandwagon first?

You could have atleast made some witty graphic pointing out the 2D foliage in the background--that's a way bigger eyesore than any of the downgraded shaders.

2007-02-20 21:08:15

i dunno that left picture is rather rough when you look at the one on the right
they should never release target markers, it only lets people down and makes the devs feel bad :(

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My comments on this game/machine been good or bad does not mean i like/hate the machine i am not a fan nor a hater, just i have a opinion and wish to share it.

2007-02-20 21:18:00

Wii60, neh thankee.

I really duno what the big deal about the Wii is to be honest, Granted i have yet to play one, but there doesn't seem to much to it, other than a nifty controller, I suppose that the point though.

Anyways back on topic, I agree with what you are saying Grift, but TR:L wasn't developed with teh 360 in mind as you so clearly pointed out. :)

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2007-02-20 21:22:24 In reply to Jollipop (2007-02-20 21:18:00)

2007-02-21 01:10:32 In reply to GriftGFX (2007-02-20 07:39:09)

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Wii60!

"We've said that Gears of War was graphically the best game have ever been made, well it looks like Pong compared to Crysis and some of the DX10 titles."

-Gary Whitta (Venting on the NG podcast after Coming back from the Games for Windows)

2007-02-21 02:07:58

You're judging all this from a single, very close shot though. Very unfair, never mind that the pic is said to be rather old.

2007-02-21 13:38:56 In reply to JediMasterMalik (2007-02-21 02:07:58)

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