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2008-05-18 19:07:35 by Snoopers

After a quite sunny Gamersyde Diaries for The Bourne Conspiracy, let's go back to the moodier streets of Paris and discuss no less than three games this week - Lego Indiana Jones, Wipeout HD and the excellent GTA Race mode of Grand Theft Auto IV. Enjoy !

 
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szaromir

szaromir
Since 849 Days

2007-03-30 10:39:13 In reply to Optimusv2 (2007-03-30 10:36:13)

Posted by Optimusv2
I'm impressed people are already talking about Halo 3 visually when nobody on this entire board has yet to see what the singleplayer actually looks like hahahah.

Then again on this forum alpha or pre-alpha of a multiplayer build is as good as finished :)
Halo 3 will technically blow everything away on x360, I'm sure about it.:] Just look at real-time E3 trailer and add 1,5 years of development to it.:]

Optimusv2

Optimusv2
Since 985 Days

2007-03-30 10:42:04 In reply to szaromir (2007-03-30 10:39:13)

Posted by szaromir
Halo 3 will technically blow everything away on x360, I'm sure about it.:] Just look at real-time E3 trailer and add 1,5 years of development to it.:]
I know it will, but don't expect anyone to admit it when it does happen. The microscopes and rulers will come out and Halo 3 will be dubbed Halo 2 HD.

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Slabs

Slabs
Since 1123 Days

2007-03-30 13:51:25

Rockstar have said the following...

"We can confirm that all footage in the trailer 'Things Will Be Different' was captured directly from 720p gameplay running real-time in RAGE [the game's engine] on a next-gen gaming console."
Thank the lord they didn't specify a console. Had they said 360 it would have been "OMG the PS3 version will look even better" and had it been PS3 it would have been "not possible on 360"

:P

Phaethon360

Mr Pantsies Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Since 938 Days

2007-03-30 18:20:39

Sony will flip it saying it was running on the PS3, because the 360 isn't a next gen console.

Barber

Barber
Since 772 Days

2007-03-30 18:58:33

i actually think that was the PS3 cause of all the jaggy textures! 360 is always smooth..

Heretic

Heretic
Since 1066 Days

2007-03-30 19:29:31

the graphics looked so flat! i can't believe you guys aren't complaining about that!!

had it been Halo 3, this thread would have been full of flames and 30 pages long!

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Slabs

Slabs
Since 1123 Days

2007-03-30 19:30:47 In reply to Heretic (2007-03-30 19:29:31)

Posted by Heretic
the graphics looked so flat! i can't believe you guys aren't complaining about that!!

had it been Halo 3, this thread would have been full of flames and 30 pages long!
I did!

lukasblue

lukasblue
Since 839 Days

2007-03-30 19:35:37

I am quite sure it was on 360; graphics reminded me somehow on graw2 mp.

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Heretic

Heretic
Since 1066 Days

2007-03-30 19:36:32

the buildings had no bump mapping what so ever.

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unfettered

unfettered
Since 1081 Days

2007-03-30 21:24:51

Can't wait for your next GTA 4 information fix? Well, it's just a couple weeks away

Phaethon360

Mr Pantsies Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Since 938 Days

2007-03-30 21:27:09 In reply to unfettered (2007-03-30 21:24:51)

Posted by unfettered
Can't wait for your next GTA 4 information fix? Well, it's just a couple weeks away
Oh baby...*drools*

kenshin2418

Junior Detective kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
Since 1068 Days

2007-03-30 21:46:32

I don't know about yall, but first things my eyes saw were, "Madden Beware: An Exclusive look at 2K Sports' Gridiron Return"- I will be picking up the mag just for that, but also, that GTAIV preview is also worth it I guess :P

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TheFuriousOne

TheFuriousOne
Since 1092 Days

2007-03-31 00:55:09


image from CVG

unfettered

unfettered
Since 1081 Days

2007-03-31 09:27:23

I was asleep dreaming just now, and had some interesting thoughts into the deeper meaning of the GTA 4 teaser.

Why Koyaanisqatsi ?

Koyaanisqatsi is a word in the Hopi language that is defined thusly: 1. crazy life. 2. life in turmoil. 3. life out of balance. 4. life disintegrating. 5. a state of life that calls for another way of living.

Koyaanisqatsi is also the name of the critically acclaimed 1983 film by director Godfrey Reggio dealing with this aspect of the relationship between man, nature, and technology.

What does any of this have to do with the GTA IV teaser, Things Will Be Different? Everything.

For starters the entire trailer is "shot" in the exact same style as Koyaanisqatsi and even goes so far as to ape a few of the movie's scenes and the entire teaser is accented by Pruit Igoe, one of the Philip Glass musical compositions from the original film soundtrack.

On the surface to those in the know, it would appear that R* was attempting pay homage to the film Koyaanisqatsi with this teaser. But then you begin to think, not too many videogamers even know what the fuck Koyaanisqatsi is or would recognize it if it bit them in the backside; even fewer still from the post-Playstation era. So why would R* go through all the trouble to replicate the look and feel and atmosphere of the film - unless they were attempting to say something about the upcoming game on a purely sublime level. Which brings us back to the meaning of the word koyaanisqatsi and the purpose of the film baring the same name.

I theorize, there will be at least two more teasers in short order similar to the Things Will Be Different teaser. Koyaanisqatsi was only part one of a trilogy. There is also Powaqqatsi ("parasitic way of life" or "life in transition") and Naqoyqatsi ("life as war"). Each film dealt with each's particular aspect of the relationship between mankind and the world around him. One only wonders if the various themes of the different Hopi words/films will be explored throughout the GTA 4 story . . . or perhaps R* is looking at a much broader scale, and each game in the new GTA trilogy will focus on one of these three aspects each.

Certainly something to look forward to.

SilverHawk

Since 711 Days

2007-03-31 11:01:04

Hmm... interesting thoughts unfettered, it seems that your name does line up with your way of thinking :)

As for GTA4, I also think the Koyaanisqatsi reference was very intentional by Rockstar. Combine that with the overall tone of the trailer, and it seems there's much more of a focus on narrative this time.

Your theory about the trilogy would be interesting if they go that route. You never know, maybe things will be different after all.

rustykaks

rustykaks
Since 1073 Days

2007-03-31 11:32:30 In reply to unfettered (2007-03-31 09:27:23)

Posted by unfettered
I was asleep dreaming just now, and had some interesting thoughts into the deeper meaning of the GTA 4 teaser.

Why Koyaanisqatsi ?

Koyaanisqatsi is a word in the Hopi language that is defined thusly: 1. crazy life. 2. life in turmoil. 3. life out of balance. 4. life disintegrating. 5. a state of life that calls for another way of living.

Koyaanisqatsi is also the name of the critically acclaimed 1983 film by director Godfrey Reggio dealing with this aspect of the relationship between man, nature, and technology.

What does any of this have to do with the GTA IV teaser, Things Will Be Different? Everything.

For starters the entire trailer is "shot" in the exact same style as Koyaanisqatsi and even goes so far as to ape a few of the movie's scenes and the entire teaser is accented by Pruit Igoe, one of the Philip Glass musical compositions from the original film soundtrack.

On the surface to those in the know, it would appear that R* was attempting pay homage to the film Koyaanisqatsi with this teaser. But then you begin to think, not too many videogamers even know what the fuck Koyaanisqatsi is or would recognize it if it bit them in the backside; even fewer still from the post-Playstation era. So why would R* go through all the trouble to replicate the look and feel and atmosphere of the film - unless they were attempting to say something about the upcoming game on a purely sublime level. Which brings us back to the meaning of the word koyaanisqatsi and the purpose of the film baring the same name.

I theorize, there will be at least two more teasers in short order similar to the Things Will Be Different teaser. Koyaanisqatsi was only part one of a trilogy. There is also Powaqqatsi ("parasitic way of life" or "life in transition") and Naqoyqatsi ("life as war"). Each film dealt with each's particular aspect of the relationship between mankind and the world around him. One only wonders if the various themes of the different Hopi words/films will be explored throughout the GTA 4 story . . . or perhaps R* is looking at a much broader scale, and each game in the new GTA trilogy will focus on one of these three aspects each.

Certainly something to look forward to.
have the three of those....I prefer baraka,but I do think your idea has merit

Slabs

Slabs
Since 1123 Days

2007-03-31 13:38:40

Yup I have them as well. Excellent films. Especially with chemical enhancement! :P

dcdelgado

dcdelgado
Since 953 Days

2007-03-31 13:46:11 In reply to unfettered (2007-03-31 09:27:23)

Posted by unfettered
I was asleep dreaming just now, and had some interesting thoughts into the deeper meaning of the GTA 4 teaser.

Why Koyaanisqatsi ?

Koyaanisqatsi is a word in the Hopi language that is defined thusly: 1. crazy life. 2. life in turmoil. 3. life out of balance. 4. life disintegrating. 5. a state of life that calls for another way of living.

Koyaanisqatsi is also the name of the critically acclaimed 1983 film by director Godfrey Reggio dealing with this aspect of the relationship between man, nature, and technology.

What does any of this have to do with the GTA IV teaser, Things Will Be Different? Everything.

For starters the entire trailer is "shot" in the exact same style as Koyaanisqatsi and even goes so far as to ape a few of the movie's scenes and the entire teaser is accented by Pruit Igoe, one of the Philip Glass musical compositions from the original film soundtrack.

On the surface to those in the know, it would appear that R* was attempting pay homage to the film Koyaanisqatsi with this teaser. But then you begin to think, not too many videogamers even know what the fuck Koyaanisqatsi is or would recognize it if it bit them in the backside; even fewer still from the post-Playstation era. So why would R* go through all the trouble to replicate the look and feel and atmosphere of the film - unless they were attempting to say something about the upcoming game on a purely sublime level. Which brings us back to the meaning of the word koyaanisqatsi and the purpose of the film baring the same name.

I theorize, there will be at least two more teasers in short order similar to the Things Will Be Different teaser. Koyaanisqatsi was only part one of a trilogy. There is also Powaqqatsi ("parasitic way of life" or "life in transition") and Naqoyqatsi ("life as war"). Each film dealt with each's particular aspect of the relationship between mankind and the world around him. One only wonders if the various themes of the different Hopi words/films will be explored throughout the GTA 4 story . . . or perhaps R* is looking at a much broader scale, and each game in the new GTA trilogy will focus on one of these three aspects each.

Certainly something to look forward to.
are u sure u did not get it from here posted on the 30th march?? ;p

http://news.spong.com/article/12201?cb=956

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SimonM7

SimonM7
Since 1116 Days

2007-03-31 13:48:55

Lol yeah I doubt Unfettered comes up with 1% of the things he posts. :)

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unfettered

unfettered
Since 1081 Days

2007-03-31 18:54:28 In reply to dcdelgado (2007-03-31 13:46:11)

Posted by dcdelgado
are u sure u did not get it from here posted on the 30th march?? ;p

http://news.spong.com/article/12201?cb=956
Between repeated viewings of the Qatsi series and Pink Floyd's The Wall, I've been plenty stoned enough to recognize references from either whenever I see them out in the world. I just had not had the chance to make the connection that R* may be trying to tell a deeper story until I had time to sleep on it - I lucid dream, which is the way that I get high now that I am a "responsible citizen" in my 30s.

But you since Vice City, we have seen an increasingly closer connection with a narrative in the GTA titles. We see more of it in San Andreas, and by the time we've finished Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories, it is more than apparent that R* has in short order become aces at the storytelling business - better than most game developers at least. I just get the feeling, having now watched their progression for the past five games, and now having dreamt a bit on the Things Will Be Different teaser, that one of the things that will be different this time around, is that R* is actually going to attempt taking the video game narrative to a whole new level - a level that in other forms of media, is called art.

I could be seeing way too much into things and setting myself up for disappointment, but as a gamer who has watched the medium for almost 30 years, a boy can dream of a day when the mainstream will be forced to call the medium art. If it takes R* Games, and the "dreaded" GTA series to do that, then more power to them. GTA is as fitting a choice to inaugurate a new medium as a progressive art form and is actually keeping in good company. Some of the greatest art pieces of all times, whether it be music, film, literature, paintings, sculpture, etc. have all raised as much a stink for their existence as GTA is doing now. They love to say the series is degenerate and is warping the minds of the youth. But didn't they say the same thing about Socrates? If there really was game series more fitting to usher in a new art form to the world, I could personally think of no better series than GTA to do it.

Jack Thompson's ears must be burning. If what I think is happening with the GTA series comes to pass, then once he is deceased, Thompson will be spinning in his grave for eternity at the very thought of it - I could think of no better person for that to happen to.

roxwell

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Since 1041 Days

2007-03-31 19:49:23

Here's a nice comparison link from GamesRadar.

real world comparison

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Jato

Jato
Since 970 Days

2007-03-31 23:44:35

Dunno if this has been posted here, but it's a pretty indepth breakdown of the trailer for all you "conspiracy theory nerds"... ;)

http://planetgrandtheftauto.gamespy.com/View.php?v...

Some interesting stuff in there...

Edit: Nevermind, just saw it's been posted in the other GTA IV thread...

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Slabs

Slabs
Since 1123 Days

2007-04-01 13:36:15


rustykaks

rustykaks
Since 1073 Days

2007-04-01 13:51:32

slabs they are so so so so so so bad

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