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Gamersyde Diaries: Episode 20

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2008-05-18 19:07:35 by Snoopers

After a quite sunny Gamersyde Diaries for The Bourne Conspiracy, let's go back to the moodier streets of Paris and discuss no less than three games this week - Lego Indiana Jones, Wipeout HD and the excellent GTA Race mode of Grand Theft Auto IV. Enjoy !

 
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RC_Master

RC_Master
Since 993 Days

2007-06-19 12:56:13

SWEET JESUS!

How can they spend that on just DLC? They should have hired another 100 people to work on something else instead.

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gmulis

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marketing
gmulis - blames poor<br>marketing
Since 879 Days

2007-06-19 18:06:16 In reply to RC_Master (2007-06-19 12:56:13)

Posted by RC_Master
SWEET JESUS!

How can they spend that on just DLC? They should have hired another 100 people to work on something else instead.
yeah like heavenly sword

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Acert93

Mr. Bad Cop Since 1062 Days

2007-06-19 18:36:49

For general ballpark here, MS paid BioWare about $25M for the Mass Effect trilogy and $25 to SK for the Too Human Trilogy. I think most hardcore gamers would prefer 2 great new IPs than a single IP that was big last gen but who knows what they are doing to it this gen to make it stand out (many big selling games on generation take a step back in successive generations).

On the other hand GTA has to be one of the biggest titles thus far in the pretty slim pickings we have seen in terms of "major industry titles that appeal to a wider/new demographic". Even if the ME trilogy sells a whopping 5M, a single GTA game can easily break 10M. GTA, dollar-for-dollar / unit-for-unit, may not be a bad bet. It surely will sell well and get casuals involved. But more than that MS is using it to hype its best feature: LIVE. Killer content (GTA expansions) for their killer app (Live). Sometimes you pay a premium to get the #1 guy in the industry to toss their weight behind you. Yet if MS takes a chunk of DLC and gets a basic $6 royalty per copy sold, at 10M copies MS could actually come out ahead -- but I bet Take Two also got a sweetheart deal on royalties. It is too important of a title to have time and date, and like others said when the deal went down over a year ago I am sure MS was hedging their bets that Sony would come out swinging hard and not... flopping.

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szaromir

szaromir
Since 847 Days

2007-06-19 18:44:00 In reply to Acert93 (2007-06-19 18:36:49)

Posted by Acert93
For general ballpark here, MS paid BioWare about $25M for the Mass Effect trilogy and $25 to SK for the Too Human Trilogy.
Where did you get these from?

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gmulis

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marketing
gmulis - blames poor<br>marketing
Since 879 Days

2007-06-19 19:21:56 In reply to Acert93 (2007-06-19 18:36:49)

[quote=Acert93]For general ballpark here, MS paid BioWare about $25M for the Mass Effect trilogy and $25 to SK for the Too Human Trilogy.quote]
got any link to support that..i heard MS paid SK $80M for the TH triogy

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alimokrane

alimokrane
Since 1021 Days

2007-06-20 10:16:43 In reply to szaromir (2007-06-19 18:44:00)

Posted by szaromir
Where did you get these from?
I've read it somewhere too and come to think of it. it seems about right. I mean gears of War costed 10 million and sequels are much cheaper to make anyway.

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SimonM7

SimonM7
Since 1114 Days

2007-06-20 10:33:03

$25 to SK for the Too Human Trilogy.
Bargain!

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mkk316

mkk316
Since 904 Days

2007-06-20 21:10:27

And here we go. The first step to MS monoply on console gaming..........great. Typical MS tactic, just bribe and buy out companies rather than compete. sad.

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szaromir

szaromir
Since 847 Days

2007-06-20 21:14:48

^
I can't believe such people exist.

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mkk316

mkk316
Since 904 Days

2007-06-20 21:18:55

Sorry if i offended you, szaromir, but you cant honestly sit there and tell me this wasnt a cheap tactic. I would complain about sony if they did the same thing.

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szaromir

szaromir
Since 847 Days

2007-06-20 21:25:10

It's a fairly standard industry practice and it's always been that way.

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Acert93

Mr. Bad Cop Since 1062 Days

2007-06-21 14:04:26 In reply to mkk316 (2007-06-20 21:18:55)

Posted by mkk316
Sorry if i offended you, szaromir, but you cant honestly sit there and tell me this wasnt a cheap tactic. I would complain about sony if they did the same thing.
Then start complaining. It is standard business practices in this industry to fund titles, be it cash advances, low royalties, no interest loans, and even pay-for-exclusives, to get an edge of some sort. Every company does it MS has essentially paid R* to make content for them. What is wrong with that? R* can say no if they wish. Sony could give them $50M to fund an equally ambitious project. Nothing is stopping them.

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SimonM7

SimonM7
Since 1114 Days

2007-06-21 14:15:39 In reply to mkk316 (2007-06-20 21:18:55)

Posted by mkk316
Sorry if i offended you, szaromir, but you cant honestly sit there and tell me this wasnt a cheap tactic. I would complain about sony if they did the same thing.
You would've had numerous consequtive heart attacks had you been gaming back in the Saturn/PSX days where multiplatform appearances on the Saturn kept disappearing like soldier grunts in a Splinter Cell game.

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mkk316

mkk316
Since 904 Days

2007-06-22 03:13:19 In reply to SimonM7 (2007-06-21 14:15:39)

Posted by SimonM7
You would've had numerous consequtive heart attacks had you been gaming back in the Saturn/PSX days where multiplatform appearances on the Saturn kept disappearing like soldier grunts in a Splinter Cell game.
back then i only could afford the psx so i didnt care so much. lol. Though i have all consoles now, it just doesnt seem right to me. You guys are right though, I know im wrong in this instance.

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