I've just been sent this more than 30 minutes long video of Saint's Row, by Goldfingiz from the GameFAQ boards. This is certainly the best way to finally get a better idea of what this game is all about, and how well it plays. If the framerate gets a bit better in the final version, we should have here a very nice GTA clone. Update: 10 minute cop video added, thanks again to Goldfingiz. Update #2: Thanks to hEcToR2k6, here are another 10 minutes. The awesome "violence" video really shows what can happen in the game.
@KORNdog: TW3 can't be a Skyring well done because W3 is not trying to be Skyrin. Different games and different type of RPG I think. You could say one more fun quest than the other though. (39 minutes ago)
... I can't even think of what they want. Maybe expecting CoH or AoE or even a Starcraft like game, but it's not even trying to be a strategy game like that. (8 Hours ago)
@rayy: I think so. If I hit on something later in the game that I haven't gotten to yet I'll let you know, but so far I don't see any control flaws. (8 Hours ago)
If you took the sword work and handling from Witcher and put it in Skyrim, you have the ultimate game in that genre. Mods made Skyrim in my opinion; vanilla was stunted outside of stealth backstabbery (8 Hours ago)
@GriftGFX: Both games in my eyes had spotty combat. I played W3 for its story and life. As for Skyrim, the vanilla version of the game felt bland without the mods. (10 Hours ago)
And I think the gameplay that is there is pretty janky and pretty shallow. (11 Hours ago)