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there is a quite long and good gameplay trailer there

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/media/videos/defa...

O Forza 3. THE DEFINITIVE RACING GAME. I wasn't very impressed by any of the stats as Gran Turismo 4 still has more cars, companies, and tracks. But the user videos, once people really get into how to drive, are going to be pretty cool.

i like. looks like there really getting some amazing gfx out the old 360

This looks AMAZING!!! Can't wait.

The car models have improved a lot since last time. Looking really good and finally an interior. This is a definitive buy for me.

Oh, and somehow pic 3 is cropped, it doesn't show the whole one.

Almost as good looking as GT5. Just a slight bit under.

Yeah sure, cars are pretty much on pair with GT5p but environments 10 times better.

Cockpits look amazing. 400 cars at that detail is like woaah

Full rolls in crashes will add a new edge to the game as well.

If that's really ingame, then I've got to give it to them. Definitely beats the shit out of GT5.

I've given turn10 a lot of crap for their crappy looking Forza2, but again...if this is actually ingame...nothing but praise!

Which is excused IMO, as Forza features an extensive damage engine as well where parts of the car models are deformed.

omg that trailer is DUMB! But if they used actual in-game models it's pretty impressive. Undoubtedly it's not rendered in-game.

Yes! I finally got my incar view and it looks like they're doing more interesting track design too. We'll actually get to race on some beautiful back country roads instead of always being on a plain official race track. I know the video is cgi, but the end makes me wonder if cars will really be able to flip this time around. October can't come soon enough!

Bye NFS:Shift. You're presence this Fall is no longer needed.

They done a gameplay demo on stage, and it didn't look far off this at all - and the demonstrator flipped his car completely ;-)

COCKPIT VIEW!!!!!!!!!

*does happy dance*

Lets all wait for our comparisons until we've seen actual GT5 footage :)
(That will hopefully be this time tomorrow)

If this is "ingame" it certainly looks very good. Even the cars are visible in reflections! I'm a bit confused about the physics though, seeing all the manoeuvres being pulled of.

The teaser is supposedly a demo done using the games video editor - depending on the depth of the video editor (for example, if it allows physics tweaks or complete car position control), it may explain the maneuvers.

Or multiple takes spliced together of course.

There is many evidence that this ain't CGI. I mean obviously the first bit with the R8 is, but after that it doesn't look unbelievably good, you'll notice a lot of muddy bits when you look at the environment that would look crap in stills. Also you see edges on round objects and the reflections on the cars look completely believable.

Thanks for the link! I watched the Press Conference, and it is indeed real-time! I'd say the car models are AT LEAST as good as GT's. I give GT the edge on the cars because they have terrific shaders. The environments, damage, and reflections all go to Forza 3, IMO...

It's pre-rendered but using in game assets that why you see the muddy textures.
Not a big surprise since GT5p also lied with it's 60fps replay trailers where in the actual game it's 30fps when watching replay

The demonstration was awesome, i knew it had to be looking good the way they were bragging about it before E3 but i didn't think it would look like this.

This trailer at gamersyde is CGI, but thisone isnt

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/media/videos/defa...

it's also available to download in 720p now :P

Looks truly amazing, I'm going to faint!! I can confirm Greenwalts comments as this really is the Best looking racing game Ever.

The trailer is clearly photo mode and like GT5 it will add better AA so the amount of AA will go down, max x2.