Audio messes up about a quarter way through it.. not sure if it's a Gamersyde issue of if the original video they received was like this, either way video is pretty much useless without the sound.. so.. (cough) sort it out (cough)..

I am buying Limited Edition when it comes out so...yay!

yes sound was slightly messed up, but who cares, looks awesome, been in the beta, and this looks even better, plus sp.

It's all win.

And then onto GOW3.

PS3 is the place to be.

Hate the way this dlc is being promoted to us like we're getting something extra at no cost to our wallets. It's already been confirmed that the 4 maps are on the disc - you paid for them the moment you bought the game. EA are simply allowing you to unlock them because you bought it new. Buy it preowned and that contents always going to be on the disc but locked away from you unless you pay to unlock it.

Whilst i agree with what EA have been trying to do in securing more "new" sales, rather than people getting their games preowned. I really don't like the way it's promoted as us getting something additional to what we already own.. theres a difference between ME2's dlc, and this...even if it is just the illusion that extra efferts been put into offering us free content..rather than simply being "treated" to a code that unlocks content on the disc we've just been charged £49.99rrp for and have it labelled "free".

I just see it as the price we pay for having so many people buying used games. I can hardly blame any company for looking for ways to entice gamers into buying the games new so they actually get paid for all their hard work.

As long as it doesn't get too out of hand I'm not too worried.

What i heard is that they have another "DLC" coming before the end of march with two more maps: Arica Harbor in Conquest-mode and Laguna Presa in Rush-mode.

i dont resent them for looking into new ways to have us buy new.. i just don't appreciate the way it's promoted as offering us as something for free when it's confirmed on the disc..and clearly not free, or additional. So instead of "rewarding" for buying new..they're simply unlocking what they would be gladly keeping locked for anyone who can't afford the game new - even though they too have paid for the content.

ME2 is simular.. obviously the game was designed with the dlc in mind from the very start, the dlc character being a huge part of the story arch, and removed from the finished product to download seperate...you're ofcourse no better off that way, and still sold the illusion you're getting something for free that you wouldnt of got otherwise...which the way dlc has been going may well be true.
But then if i look at the dlc pack on the way, with the vehicle, it does feel like more values added to this scheme, more of a benefit to the customer that invested in the main game new.

It's my understanding that with this, they're allowing us to unlock 2 of the maps day 1..and they next 2maps a few weeks later.. and promoting it as them supporting the game. Theres not a chance in hell that at some point one of the map packs is going to have a charge..by which time the gamers of the thought "well they did already support it with 2 free map packs"...and more inclined to pay up for the next one - maybe thats just me being cynical

yep.. those are the other 2 maps apparently already on the disc

People who wont be playing the game online will be okay to buy it pre-owned. Usually in cases like this, they'll release the content (or the content unlocker, in this case) for free on Xbox Live after a while, although it tends to be later rather than sooner.

You can't blame them for trying to get sales though. If someone traded the game in a week or two after release, the store will try to sell the game on for near RRP. The promise of free content in the new box may sway a customer to pay the extra £2 or £3 for the new game.

It's a shame it's had to come to this though.

but thats just it.. it's not "free content"..it's just being marketed as such.

You could easily look at it another way.. that EA are locking you out of content that you've paid for untill they deem it's in their interests to give you access to it. You've got all those maps on the disc.. you're only getting access to 2 of the "free" maps on the disc day 1.. you'll have to wait till the end of the month untill you can unlock the other 2 maps on the disc.

I can understand why they would do that.. it makes you have second thoughts on trading it in.. but you're still not getting access to all the contents you've paid for day 1 due to their fear that you'll trade the game in.

But yeah, the alternative is buy it preowned and be charged a tenner to unlock it..not many would opt for that when, like you say, theres only a few quid difference between new and preowned in stores

Guys, I figured out a way to keep the revenue from those who rent games, and punish them at the same time -- we'll make millions.

I would love for this to backfire in their face, but we all know there are too many kids out there with their parents money, letting EA get away with this type of horseshit.

I really don't get hate on the first day dlc for games...

Mass Effect2...you buy the game new ( from the shop )and you get the download code...buy the game second hand and you have to pay 15USD to get the same code as what I picked up on the day of release?

Borderlands is probably the best IP ( IMHO )of the last couple of years ( honestly can you name anything bigger or better? ), and they seem to have the dlc perfected...I can't wait to go through the new content again on the PS3 ( having already previously finished the game on the eggbox360 ).

Grift : they are new maps ( "at least fresh variations" ), there will be a fresh rush map and a fresh conquest map on the day of release!

Honestly though, the multiplayer demo of BC2 has been brilliant fun, I've had more fun on the multiplayer demo map ( over the last 3weeks ).

Bad company 2 has all the things the Modern Warfare doesn't...............communication within the squad....

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I like this strategy, it deters both pirates and second hand sales, and EA seems to be making up for the "extra cost" by giving us extra free DLC, like is coming up for ME2.

Essentially the only people who have a hard deal are the pirates and Gamestop, the developers get a good deal and the customers don't get fucked over. When the rest of the industry seems to be moving towards SecuROM and glorified rentals, this is a much appreciated move from EA.

Anyone who thinks this is any good probably hasn't realised that in actuality this is not DLC, it's not even new maps. I can't decide which part of that disgusts me more.

ME 2 is a hole different matter. The DLC is stuff that didn't make it into the game, if it has been dropped at some point in the development process or was an afterthought (most likely the former), which one I don't care. I look at it as if it was a directors edition of a film, extra scenes that aren't essential to my gaming experience. In fact I can live without Zaeed who I never take along with or the shotgun that I never use or the armour that I never wear.

So is it only for preorders or is it all new copies period?
I'm not getting exactly how this is working.

Demo is amazing!! :D
Getting the limited Edition as soon as it comes out :P

thanks man! It's not all bad news then :)