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Commented on 2011-06-07 23:14:13 In reply to AP33ME
Posted by AP33ME
That's because shift exaggerates it to hell and back.
Tornadoes and hurricanes don't exist inside race cars.
You have never been in a proper race car have you? It's not like driving 100 mph down the motorway race cars have very hard suspension setups for race tracks and you feel every bump and corner.
Commented on 2011-06-07 23:24:29 In reply to UkHardcore23
Posted by UkHardcore23
You have never been in a proper race car have you? It's not like driving 100 mph down the motorway race cars have very hard suspension setups for race tracks and you feel every bump and corner.
- Race drivers are knackered from the violence in a very short time.
- The world doesn't blur above 60 mph
- Wing mirrors on most cars don't wobble around as if held on by elastic bands
Partly tongue-in-cheek, I wish them to keep the Shift nonsense out of this game, but alas we have been told 'hollywood effects' are in, lets hope they can be turned off/toned down for some of us more 'discerning' racers ;)
I don't drive, let alone race in real life. But certainly the cockpit experience in F3, just didn't seem right at all. There was little separation from the head you were looking through and the car itself; hence this kind of stiff lifeless feeling.
They seem to have fixed the angle a good bit. Sound in the cockpit didn't seem right in F3 neither. Also being able to look into the corners by using the right stick to turn the drivers head, that just feels natural as hell to do for me. I hope stuff like that is added/improved.
Commented on 2011-06-08 00:00:08 In reply to phil_t
Posted by phil_t
- Race drivers are knackered from the violence in a very short time.
- The world doesn't blur above 60 mph
- Wing mirrors on most cars don't wobble around as if held on by elastic bands
Partly tongue-in-cheek, I wish them to keep the Shift nonsense out of this game, but alas we have been told 'hollywood effects' are in, lets hope they can be turned off/toned down for some of us more 'discerning' racers ;)
The big problem with uncompromisingly realistic racing sims is that regardless of how realistic the graphics or physics get they'll always be significantly lacking in the immersion department. It's a problem with the medium, which can be improved by using a FFB wheel and pedals, a racing seat and a three monitor/console config but this kind of setup can be prohibitively expensive and even still will never get you all the way there. Alternatively, a developer can exaggerate certain aspects of the racing experience in an attempt to compensate for some of the limitations of said medium and improve immersion, IMO Shift 2 does this well.
The sense of speed, engine noise, cockpit view and this new track looks sublime!
Posted by toelessfoot
The big problem with uncompromisingly realistic racing sims is that regardless of how realistic the graphics or physics get they'll always be significantly lacking in the immersion department.
If you wanna see immersion, look at looks at this video
0:45 - 0:50 race mode off
0:51 - 0:55 race mode on (Immersive, w/o the Shift 2 OTT craziness!)
What a gorgeous level! Wow- I want this game so much! I'm so impressed with the in car view and the new shaders! I thought for a while that we were watching the guy playing at an Xbox wheel- then I realized it was in the car with it all being game footage. Very nice!
What is that Turn [][][][] that came up both times he entered the tunnel? Anybody heard yet?
Commented on 2011-06-08 05:53:47 In reply to UkHardcore23
Posted by UkHardcore23
Forza 2 you could move the Camera back and forth, will most likely be the same this time round.
Didn't you have to cheat though by adjusting the camera in the multi-screen options? I remember the 3rd person view and bumper cam would also be affected and not in the best way...maybe I'm wrong? Can't really remember.
So yeah, that guy confirmed not all cars will have that level of detail. As expected mind you, but it'll be........uh, I don't know. We'll see how this thing turns out. At ~8:28
Commented on 2011-06-08 06:44:01 In reply to LEBATO
Posted by LEBATO
So yeah, that guy confirmed not all cars will have that level of detail. As expected mind you, but it'll be........uh, I don't know. We'll see how this thing turns out. At ~8:28
"uhhh...umm.. pretty much uhhhh" hah I don't think he was expecting that question.
I wonder how many super detailed cars are part of the 'experience'
Game looks amazing and I have little doubt this will be once again the best racing game for consoles.
That clip of the "race mode" looks far better than shift as well, a sense of physics w/out the hollywood bullshit that made shift feel a little too childish.
Can't wait to see what new tracks are in the game.
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Commented on 2011-06-07 23:04:35Tornadoes and hurricanes don't exist inside race cars.
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Commented on 2011-06-07 23:14:13 In reply to AP33METornadoes and hurricanes don't exist inside race cars.
Commented on 2011-06-07 23:24:29 In reply to UkHardcore23- The world doesn't blur above 60 mph
- Wing mirrors on most cars don't wobble around as if held on by elastic bands
Partly tongue-in-cheek, I wish them to keep the Shift nonsense out of this game, but alas we have been told 'hollywood effects' are in, lets hope they can be turned off/toned down for some of us more 'discerning' racers ;)
Commented on 2011-06-07 23:47:44They seem to have fixed the angle a good bit. Sound in the cockpit didn't seem right in F3 neither. Also being able to look into the corners by using the right stick to turn the drivers head, that just feels natural as hell to do for me. I hope stuff like that is added/improved.
Commented on 2011-06-08 00:00:08 In reply to phil_t- The world doesn't blur above 60 mph
- Wing mirrors on most cars don't wobble around as if held on by elastic bands
Partly tongue-in-cheek, I wish them to keep the Shift nonsense out of this game, but alas we have been told 'hollywood effects' are in, lets hope they can be turned off/toned down for some of us more 'discerning' racers ;)
Commented on 2011-06-08 00:11:050:45 - 0:50 race mode off
0:51 - 0:55 race mode on (Immersive, w/o the Shift 2 OTT craziness!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm08jHJWyUY&feature...
That is how it should be done.
Commented on 2011-06-08 00:27:47
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Commented on 2011-06-08 00:47:27What is that Turn [][][][] that came up both times he entered the tunnel? Anybody heard yet?
Commented on 2011-06-08 00:58:43 In reply to Jin1870:45 - 0:50 race mode off
0:51 - 0:55 race mode on (Immersive, w/o the Shift 2 OTT craziness!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm08jHJWyUY&feature...
That is how it should be done.
Commented on 2011-06-08 01:07:04http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvdE6Z8UU-g&...
Commented on 2011-06-08 01:48:56 In reply to Jin187http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvdE6Z8UU-g&...
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Commented on 2011-06-08 06:16:17 In reply to Jin187http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvdE6Z8UU-g&...
Commented on 2011-06-08 06:44:01 In reply to LEBATOI wonder how many super detailed cars are part of the 'experience'
Commented on 2011-06-08 06:53:08That clip of the "race mode" looks far better than shift as well, a sense of physics w/out the hollywood bullshit that made shift feel a little too childish.
Can't wait to see what new tracks are in the game.
Commented on 2011-06-08 07:08:52
Commented on 2011-06-08 07:48:26I hope they added a real damage model with deformation to the mix, so that people can't bump their way to the top like in this video