I got some positive feedback about another thread dedicated chatting about the MP and sharing advice/strategies. I am only in 20s, but don't fret--that is with 7hours of play. Once you get the M4 and the laser scope you have, imo, one of the best guns in the game for versatility and effectiveness. The basic kits work well enougg, as the M16 is very servicable.

Anyhow, I know Grift has some great custom classes with Overkill that should be helpful to others.

I shoot the people before they shoot me.

That's the spirit Inflatable. The P90 is incredible.. and not a "noob perk" in the bunch. Well, double tap isn't a competition perk, but it's not as bad as..Martyrdom = lame.

Nah it's pretty lame. It's lame like a claymore.

Yea.. nade spammers have been a problem in every COD game. 3x Frags shouldn't exist.

:P

They are all "lame". Getting extra ammo, getting to sprint longer, last stand, better bullets, faster shooting, etc... Or balanced through non-symetry.

I find that Martrydom works best against P90 and other rapid fire/close range addicts. They rush in for the quick close kill, and Martrydom is a way to make them think twice to this tactic. Martrydom is worthless when you are killed at a distance. Or if when you see them go down you move along (instead of pumping more lead into them, teabagging, etc)

As for nades, I have seen some people do amazing throws. And probably not blind, but mini-map assisted. But if they reduce nades, they need to get ride of the nubetubers :P

So far I personally have found MP balanced. I haven't seen any weapon or tactic without a weakness. Sure, some weapons/perks (like martrydom) make favorite tactics and approaches less successful, but they also come at the cost for the other player and provide ample counter-measures.

No, Martyrdom is especially lame. So are claymores. I'm really happy that they're both already out of competition. The current rules set for the Xfire competition is much more balanced than pub play, in a tournament setting. It all works very well when you have 20+ people running around with little to lose, but when you're being a little more serious and a little more tactical those things need to stay at home.

And 3x nades leads to nade spamming. And they've both been removed from competition. I sometimes use the 3X nades while pubbing, but mostly so I can practice those crazy grenade tosses you speak of.

Currently the only perks in competition are: Perk #1 - Bandolier, Perk #2 - Slight of Hand, Stopping Power, Perk #3 - Steady Aim, Deep Impact, Iron Lungs.

I try to limit myself to mostly just these perks in pub play, just for the practice. I don't have a problem with most of the other perks, but I understand their limitations for this tourny and I think they've made some pretty wise decisions personally. There are also some weapon restrictions. Every weapon is in, but I believe the grip attachments for the LMG's at least are out. I'm not sure what TGL's rules will be, but I hope they're in line with the Mod Warfare mod. They seem pretty fair to me.

This is also why I've stopped using stuff like Double Tap and Overkill personally.. although if I were just playing pubs, I still would. I still wouldn't use LMG's + Grips, or Martyrdom and Claymores though, because they really annoy the hell out of me :)

Lame like a claymore. Reading this is fun.

I actually played a bunch of COD4 recently, but I got bored pretty quickly. What I really wanted was promod FFA.

Killstreaks in FFA are especially broken/hilarious.