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Since 6812 DaysI can't believe you're even asserting that Bad Company 2 is a better game without having any experience.
That's not rational. I'm drinking the kool aid? You don't have your own opinion.
How many of the 29 BF3 maps did you even play? Am I only allowed to compare Bad Company 2 level design to Operation Metro? Because then.. sure.. Bad Company 2 is better!
Since 6742 DaysA thread in which no one is agreeing with your empirical evidence.
Apparently mine is bullshit even though it's the majority right now? You're all alone here Grift
Since 6812 DaysIs it down to the three of us to decide on what's right here? I don't think it's a vote.
I doubt everyone in the Battlefield community would agree with either of us.
On the subjective issues no one is "right." But if you haven't played it you do not have an informed opinion and it's not really worth discussing.
Since 6812 DaysBut there are other aspects of it that you probably would enjoy more than BF3. It's hard to recommend to someone who hates BF3 anyway. So.. look for the discount heh.. It's easy to recommend to someone who enjoyed BF3 though. That's a no brainer at this point. The game "works" to that standard and is pretty fun.
I have a lot of very specific complaints about both titles. I usually direct that at Battlelog though. And now CTE, only in a more friendly manner.
Since 6742 DaysPage 18 at the top still talks about fixing net code
Am I missing a lot so far? Or maybe I didn't play enough maps in BF3
You agree on one level because you prefer Battlefield 2, so you obviously don't hold 3 or 4 very high in comparison
Population isn't high here so just 3 or 4 people is sort of normal for majority on GSY.
When you call an opinion straight up "bullshit", I think you're making a statement of who is right. I was kinda pointing out that you're saying everyone in this thread is full of shit apparently
Since 6812 DaysThey're "fixing the netcode" beyond the standard of Bad Company 2. Or Battlefield 2, for that matter. Although the community should understand that so long as administrators allow high ping players on servers, there are natural limitations. Ya know.. physics.
And uh.. yeah.. you probably didn't :D
Since 6812 DaysI mean come on.. tell me how broken this game you haven't played is..
That other dude? He's still entitled to his opinion. I was not talking to anyone else.
And that last bit is meant as a joke. Of course you're entitled to think all sorts of things. I still value your direct opinions about Bad Company 2, even if I don't agree with them. I just don't think you can aptly compare it to the current state of Battlefield. Not that I think you'd like the current state of Battlefield that much.
Since 6812 DaysOh.. and in terms of bad design. For sure! There's plenty. The good just mostly outweighs the bad and there's nothing that breaks the basics. Thinking critically about Battlefield has never yielded a perfect experience. I have plenty of complaints about Battlefield 2 too.
Since 6812 DaysEdit: Okay you did.. on page 17. Cool :D
I'm not buying Hardline either.. I'm just glad it wasn't a total argument from ignorance.
Since 6742 DaysI'm saying they're handling themselves pretty poorly these days!
Also you seem to think my opinion on the current state of BF won't change even after I play 4, so what's the difference either way.
You will still think I'm wrong and say my hours were too low to be informed. Or that I didn't try it when it was 1.6 instead of 1.7 version.
You make assumptions on a Battlefield that doesn't exist yet either. IE the netcode standard
Since 6812 DaysI just don't think anyone who hated BF3 is going to love BF4. There are too many similarities.
I like BF3 a lot more than Bad Company 2. So naturally I like BF4 a lot more too.
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Since 5447 Days-destruction
-balanced maps with a really good push/pull feel to them
-guns had recoil and when you got shot by someone you typically had a second or two to react and counter... instead of dying instantaneously and respawning a second or two later across the map
That's literally it... well, that plus loading C4 onto 4 wheelers and UAVs and blowing shit up.
.... and the SAIGA
.... and the m60
Fuck that game rules
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Since 6812 DaysI also loved blowing up M-COMs with C4 quads. They nerfed the UAV though. C4 quads are still a riot.
Is Bad Company 2 still playable? At least you guys have that. RIP BF2.
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Since 6812 DaysBut.. if they made Bad Company 3, I would totally expect the core mechanics to be "up to date." I'd be pretty okay with that. And it would stagger the need for "BF5," but I still don't know how they'd continue to keep the two unique entities.
My opinion doesn't matter much since I disagree with the premise, but Panama Canal was my favorite map. I mostly played conquest though.
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Since 4839 DaysBut lets get back to the point. DICE cant put their finger on why players loved Bad Company. What does that say?
Since 6812 DaysI like rush on super low player counts, because you can actually be tactical. Then it can be a hoot. A good game of rush is a rarity in any Battlefield game. I find the idea that BC2 rush maps were all balanced a bit amusing. I think nostalgia is painting a prettier picture of this game than reality. I'd rather they bring back double assault, and kill rush :D
Ironically.. I've been enjoying the CTE rush test, but the community has a lot to do with that.
DICE wants to know what made Bad Company distinct, and so far, no one is really spelling that out. Anything they could do to improve on the modern warfare setting, would be indistinguishable from what they would call "Battlefield 5." What is specific to Bad Company? Does anyone know? If it's something about rush.. why not just improve rush in the core franchise? What improvements to the franchise would belong squarely to "Bad Company?" It's not just about what's better.
I'm pretty sure it's just branding and a "funny" campaign.
In my ideal world, the core franchise would still be PC exclusive, and Bad Company would still be a console game. That would be pretty distinct.
Since 4839 DaysYou need to see things more objectively. Just because you didn't like something doesn't mean its bad. :)
Since 6812 DaysThe latter bit clearly says "my ideal world" What's wrong with that? Emphasize the individual.
My point, again, is that anything they can do to improve BF4 might as well be called "BF5." Otherwise, you really are just talking about tacking on "character" and a funny campaign. They need to be fundamentally different, or it's just redundant.
And you're saying they designed Battlefield 3 to appease BF2 fans? What a tragedy for the series! :D
Beyond our disagreement.. I think that's the only place for the conversation to go. What do you imagine Bad Company 3 would be? And how would it differ from Battlefield 5.
I think out of place spin-offs make more sense personally. 2143 makes more sense.
Since 4839 DaysA tragedy indeed. Look at that thing =X
Since 6812 DaysI'm sure EA would love an extra Battlefield franchise.
Since 6742 Dayshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVVTZgwYwVo
Since 6812 DaysI'm playing CTE gameplay initiative #2 patch #5 tonight instead.
I'll play BC3, because it will basically be BF5 with a rush twist/focus and a funny campaign. They'll update the core mechanics, so I look forward to it.