GC08: TR Underworld gameplay

Commented on 2008-08-21 17:55:37

graphically the game looks good, just not as good as uncharted, anyone that says that this game looks better than uncharted is just deluded.
and the gameplay looks the same as legend with slight upgrades to the animations.
it's just another "nexgen" tomb raider game.

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pixelsword

Commented on 2008-08-21 19:20:01

The same old Laua Croft... not very innovative to the series at all. Needs to step up their game, because Uncharted was better than all of them to me to be honest. A big rack woldn't save her this time, and she doesn't even have that.

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alimokrane

Commented on 2008-08-21 19:25:58 In reply to pixelsword

Posted by pixelsword

The same old Laua Croft... not very innovative to the series at all. Needs to step up their game, because Uncharted was better than all of them to me to be honest. A big rack woldn't save her this time, and she doesn't even have that.

Im sorry .... Did I miss something here ? Was Uncharted a revolutionary Action adventure game ? I played the thing and it's a Tomb Raider - Prince of Persia -Gears of War mixture and that's about it.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2008-08-21 19:30:52 In reply to alimokrane

Posted by alimokrane

Im sorry .... Did I miss something here ? Was Uncharted a revolutionary Action adventure game ? I played the thing and it's a Tomb Raider - Prince of Persia -Gears of War mixture and that's about it.

which in itself is a new thing. break any game into its componant parts and nothing is original. but as a whole, there had never been a game that combined those aspects. making it a fresh experience. tomb raider doesnt even have that tho. its stuck to what it known for 9 installments with little to no deviation. its stagnating. i mean, you cant deny that they could have at LEAST improved that god awful combat thats from the PSone era.

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alimokrane

Commented on 2008-08-21 19:56:13 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

which in itself is a new thing. break any game into its componant parts and nothing is original. but as a whole, there had never been a game that combined those aspects. making it a fresh experience. tomb raider doesnt even have that tho. its stuck to what it known for 9 installments with little to no deviation. its stagnating. i mean, you cant deny that they could have at LEAST improved that god awful combat thats from the PSone era.

Let's get one thing straight: Tomb Raider has NEVER EVER been about combat. What you have at your disposal is more than enough and is what's needed for a tomb raider game.

Do we want to turn this into another third person shooter ? Please god no! You mentioned resident Evil 4 before, I see your point with that, but dont you agree that Resident evil has lost most of its charm having done that ? Most of it has become just another third person shooter.

PS: the combat in Tomb Raider has the drenaline rush which we haven't seen in action yet, that helps you get rid of enemies with one shot and this is the whole point because Tomb Raider wasnt, isnt and will never be about combat.

I hope you see where Im coming from. Uncharted hasnt revolutioned the genre either. what it presented was also a collection of jump to this ledge, grab this rope, push this box .....

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[quote=KORNdog]

which in itself is a new thing. break any game into its componant parts and nothing is original. but as a whole, there had never been a game that combined those aspects. making it a fresh experience. tomb raider doesnt even have that tho. its stuck to what it known for 9 installments with little to no deviation. its stagnating. i mean, you cant deny that they could have at LEAST improved that god awful combat thats from the PSone era.[/quote]

Let's get one thing straight: Tomb Raider has NEVER EVER been about combat. What you have at your disposal is more than enough and is what's needed for a tomb raider game.

Do we want to turn this into another third person shooter ? Please god no! You mentioned resident Evil 4 before, I see your point with that, but dont you agree that Resident evil has lost most of its charm having done that ? Most of it has become just another third person shooter.

PS: the combat in Tomb Raider has the drenaline rush which we haven't seen in action yet, that helps you get rid of enemies with one shot and this is the whole point because Tomb Raider wasnt, isnt and will never be about combat.

I hope you see where Im coming from. Uncharted hasnt revolutioned the genre either. what it presented was also a collection of jump to this ledge, grab this rope, push this box .....

Jollipop

Commented on 2008-08-21 19:59:06

Korn you're an ass, TR has isn't about the combat, nor should it be, if you don't like the concept of TR then don't be surprised when a new version doesn't appeal to you either.

Yea we get that you don't like it (you have stated as much in ever single TR thread I can think of), you may think it hasn't progressed but for people who actually play it and enjoy the franchise it has progressed.

Only looking at this video proves that its nothing like TR1 and that the Lara has several new moves and abilities, TR is about exploration and deadly obstacles.

If you want something that is more combat orientated go play Uncharted, but I don't understand why you are whining about a game that you have no interest in.

FWIW I though uncharted was crap, its too centered on combat and mindless shooting, those aren't the type of games I like to play and Uncharted is a lot different than TR, whether you think thats good or bad is personal choice but I know which one I would sooner play.

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KORNdog

Commented on 2008-08-21 20:05:12 In reply to Jollipop

Posted by Jollipop

Korn you're an ass, TR has isn't about the combat, nor should it be, if you don't like the concept of TR then don't be surprised when a new version doesn't appeal to you either.

Yea we get that you don't like it (you have stated as much in ever single TR thread I can think of), you may think it hasn't progressed but for people who actually play it and enjoy the franchise it has progressed.

Only looking at this video proves that its nothing like TR1 and that the Lara has several new moves, TR is about exploration and deathly obsticles.

If you want something that is more combat oreinated go play Uncharted, but I don't understand why you are whining about a game that you have no interest in.

i do have interest in it. as i've said, i enjoyed legend and anniversary, im just saying that i think its time for the series to move past the themes it had back in tomb raider 1. otherwise its just a series that stagnating. i'm going to play this one. but untill the series gets that "wow" factor back that was present in tomb raider 1 and 2, i wont be BUYING it. im not saying give lara a rocket launcher and send her to kill of a whole species...that wouldnt work. but they could at least work on it to a point where its better, atm its still the flippy about skill-less combat of old.

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[quote=Jollipop]Korn you're an ass, TR has isn't about the combat, nor should it be, if you don't like the concept of TR then don't be surprised when a new version doesn't appeal to you either.

Yea we get that you don't like it (you have stated as much in ever single TR thread I can think of), you may think it hasn't progressed but for people who actually play it and enjoy the franchise it has progressed.

Only looking at this video proves that its nothing like TR1 and that the Lara has several new moves, TR is about exploration and deathly obsticles.

If you want something that is more combat oreinated go play Uncharted, but I don't understand why you are whining about a game that you have no interest in.[/quote]

i do have interest in it. as i've said, i enjoyed legend and anniversary, im just saying that i think its time for the series to move past the themes it had back in tomb raider 1. otherwise its just a series that stagnating. i'm going to play this one. but untill the series gets that "wow" factor back that was present in tomb raider 1 and 2, i wont be BUYING it. im not saying give lara a rocket launcher and send her to kill of a whole species...that wouldnt work. but they could at least work on it to a point where its better, atm its still the flippy about skill-less combat of old.

Driftwood

Commented on 2008-08-21 20:29:35 In reply to alimokrane

Posted by alimokrane

If I offended you please accept my appologies, that wasnt my intention :)

Don't worry, I was only kidding, no hard feelings at all. ;)

I wanted to point out that, as a Tomb raider fan, I liked what I saw and I'm looking forward to playing the game at home. I'll try to get you some more footage tomorrow if I can reach a controller in that German madness. :)

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alimokrane

Commented on 2008-08-21 20:43:35 In reply to Driftwood

Posted by Driftwood

Don't worry, I was only kidding, no hard feelings at all. ;)

I wanted to point out that, as a Tomb raider fan, I liked what I saw and I'm looking forward to playing the game at home. I'll try to get you some more footage tomorrow if I can reach a controller in that German madness. :)

Good! :D Looking forward to see some more footage ;)

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pixelsword

Commented on 2008-08-21 21:06:35 In reply to alimokrane

Posted by alimokrane

Im sorry .... Did I miss something here ? Was Uncharted a revolutionary Action adventure game ? I played the thing and it's a Tomb Raider - Prince of Persia -Gears of War mixture and that's about it.

Yes, it was doing something new. Have you played it? I don't think you have. In which game, EVER, could you mix gameplay and shooting so seemlessly? Jump from shooting, puhching someone out without skipping a beat? NONE, so don't strain yourself thinking about it. Gears, by the way, copied kill.switch; so get that right, if you would. Tomb Raider took it's concept from pitfall (especially since she mainly fights various animals) just in 3D, and oddly, Prince of Persia took it's gameplay from the older game of Prince of persia, just in 3D.

I guess you didn't understand that being innovative to the series doesn't mean having to be innovative, just do something more than the same thing in every other game.

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jackdoe

Commented on 2008-08-21 23:25:23

Beautiful. Cannot wait.

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GriftGFX

Commented on 2008-08-22 02:11:17 In reply to pixelsword

Posted by alimokrane

Let's get one thing straight: Tomb Raider has NEVER EVER been about combat. What you have at your disposal is more than enough and is what's needed for a tomb raider game..

I agree. If anything, I want less combat. I thought the combat in Anniversary was pretty passable though. It doesn't require loads of skill, no, but then again.. that's true of countless other good games.

Posted by pixelsword

Yes, it was doing something new. Have you played it? I don't think you have. In which game, EVER, could you mix gameplay and shooting so seemlessly? Jump from shooting, puhching someone out without skipping a beat? NONE, so don't strain yourself thinking about it. Gears, by the way, copied kill.switch; so get that right, if you would. Tomb Raider took it's concept from pitfall (especially since she mainly fights various animals) just in 3D, and oddly, Prince of Persia took it's gameplay from the older game of Prince of persia, just in 3D.

I guess you didn't understand that being innovative to the series doesn't mean having to be innovative, just do something more than the same thing in every other game.

Tomb Raider was more inspired by Prince of Persia than PITFALL. Come on now. Just because she fights animals, you think it's a 3D Pitfall? It's a traps driven platformer, from the start, which is an ample description of the original Prince of Persia. The two franchises have a lot more in common than either does with Pitfall, that's for certain.

And you're being critical of Gears of War while praising Uncharted for taking strides from other games, in very much the same way. No one denies that Gears of War borrowed elements from Kill Switch, it just does it all so much better. Kill Switch is rather average, and while Gears may not have a stellar campaign (fun, though, especially co-op) it has almost infinitely better gameplay.

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[quote=alimokrane]

Let's get one thing straight: Tomb Raider has NEVER EVER been about combat. What you have at your disposal is more than enough and is what's needed for a tomb raider game..[/quote]

I agree. If anything, I want [b]less[/b] combat. I thought the combat in Anniversary was pretty passable though. It doesn't require loads of skill, no, but then again.. that's true of countless other [b]good[/b] games.

[quote=pixelsword]

Yes, it was doing something new. Have you played it? I don't think you have. In which game, EVER, could you mix gameplay and shooting so seemlessly? Jump from shooting, puhching someone out without skipping a beat? NONE, so don't strain yourself thinking about it. Gears, by the way, copied kill.switch; so get that right, if you would. Tomb Raider took it's concept from pitfall (especially since she mainly fights various animals) just in 3D, and oddly, Prince of Persia took it's gameplay from the older game of Prince of persia, just in 3D.

I guess you didn't understand that being innovative to the series doesn't mean having to be innovative, just do something more than the same thing in every other game.[/quote]

Tomb Raider was more inspired by Prince of Persia than PITFALL. Come on now. Just because she fights animals, you think it's a 3D Pitfall? It's a traps driven platformer, from the start, which is an ample description of the original Prince of Persia. The two franchises have a lot more in common than either does with Pitfall, that's for certain.

And you're being critical of Gears of War while praising Uncharted for taking strides from other games, in very much the same way. No one denies that Gears of War borrowed elements from Kill Switch, it just does it all so much better. Kill Switch is rather average, and while Gears may not have a stellar campaign (fun, though, especially co-op) it has almost infinitely better gameplay.

SimonM7

Commented on 2008-08-22 04:13:46 In reply to KORNdog

Posted by KORNdog

...i think its time for the series to move past the themes it had back in tomb raider 1.

Chronicles and Angel of Darkness. I think we've had enough of moving past the themes thank you very much.

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josegamer

Commented on 2008-08-22 05:09:50

i really dont like the camrea. over all its ok? rigth

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Freniger

Commented on 2008-08-22 07:06:29

This looks absolutely gorgeous.

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rex41e

Commented on 2008-08-23 01:19:05

awesome gameplay. Thanks for that vid. I really cant wait for this game. Its the little things that she deoes that sell it for me.

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Rocko

Commented on 2008-09-20 05:55:05

I cannot understand how anyone thinks Uncharted looks better than this. Uncharted looks like a garish cartoon in comparison. Look at the subtlety of the lighting and the material work is fantastic. Furthermore, the resolution of the textures in Uncharted looks WAY lower than what I see in Underworld.

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