Virtua Fighter 5 Preview(curse you Grift!)

kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 5952 Days
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?type=wmv&id...
This is for the PS3 version, but since its coming to 360, well yeah you know.

I pretty much figured there would be no online play, since due to the complexity of VF. But I do hope that in the 360 version they could add the VF.TV feature to function with live, instead of just offline. Where you could download and view others replay videos, and upload your own. I don't see that as asking for too much :P

Anyway, I don't know if I'll be able to wait for the 360 version. Guess I'll wait for Grift's impressions, and others who get the PS3 version to see if I should cave.
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SuperBowl 41, Believe!

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 5977 Days
Thanks :)

Hopefully Crackdown doesn't ruin my chances of getting this on February 20th. Not sure I'm willing to drop $120 on that day :/

Regardless I'll have it soon.

edit: OMFG I just watched that..looks so freaking excellent. Can not wait.
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 5952 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
edit: OMFG I just watched that..looks so freaking excellent. Can not wait.
Yeah, I know :( Sounds like another awesome VF again.

I hope the 360 version will be like an actual upgrade, kind of like VF4 Evo, or at least they add some features that take advantage of Live( Like the VF.TV). If they do that, maybe that won't make the wait as hard as it is. However, if it will be pretty much the same game as the PS3 version, yup screw it, I rather just cave and get a PS3. :P
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SuperBowl 41, Believe!

SilverHawk
Since 5595 Days
Awesome, that got me really excited, it's a shame I won't be able to show my skills online

Oh well, there's always SC4
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ManThatYouFear
ManThatYouFear
Since 5920 Days
bummer...damn pc at work wont play it :( windows 98 LOL

also is the 360 version online or are they both offline ?
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My comments on this game/machine been good or bad does not mean i like/hate the machine i am not a fan nor a hater, just i have a opinion and wish to share it.

alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 5907 Days
Posted by ManThatYouFear
bummer...damn pc at work wont play it :( windows 98 LOL

also is the 360 version online or are they both offline ?
Disclaimer: I AM NOT COMPARING THE GAME TO DOA OK.

I think they both have no online unfortunately but I am sure it's for good reason, timing is so important in this kind of game although DOA pulled it off (assuming you have an uber good connection) but VF relies on timing A lot more I think.
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[b]Blue Dragon FTW!!![/b]

Jin187
Jin187
Since 5721 Days
The graphics look awesome!
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 6000 Days
El Blaze has really grown on me. I thought the new characters were naff when I first saw them, and I sort of still feel Eileen is a bit of an Aoi/Pai mishmash, design wise. (Though certainly not gameplay wise of course! This isn't Tekken!)

I didn't realise how small El Blaze is before, but going up against Wolf here really shows just how different he is. Fast and nimble, he could really capoeira his way into my heart.
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 5952 Days
El Blaze=Rey Mysterio :P

Believe in the lucha libre style! Mucha Lucha!
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SuperBowl 41, Believe!

GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 5977 Days
Posted by SimonM7
El Blaze has really grown on me. I thought the new characters were naff when I first saw them, and I sort of still feel Eileen is a bit of an Aoi/Pai mishmash, design wise. (Though certainly not gameplay wise of course! This isn't Tekken!)

I didn't realise how small El Blaze is before, but going up against Wolf here really shows just how different he is. Fast and nimble, he could really capoeira his way into my heart.
Both of the new characters are indeed interesting looking, but I'm not sure if I'll get too heavy into either for quite some time. I really love the characters that they added in VF4, especially Vanessa and Goh. My two favorite characters to use, as of right now atleast, are Sarah and Vanessa.
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 5952 Days
I will use El Blaze, but other than that, same team from the 1st one, Jackie, Koga, and Akira. :)
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Smokin' Aces

SilverHawk
Since 5595 Days
Posted by kenshin2418
I will use El Blaze, but other than that, same team from the 1st one, Jackie, Koga, and Akira. :)
Hmm... that's a pretty good team, but it doesn't stand a chance against my Vanessa, Kage and Pai :)

No girls on the team = teh weakness
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 5952 Days
Trick that. No girls for me in that game, EVER!

After my Sis use to hand me my ass with Sarah, and Dural use to hand me my ass when I was a noob, and more recently she handing me my ass with Vanessa in 4. Bleh at the females! My team will remain a sausage fest! :P
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Smokin' Aces

SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 6000 Days
Ha! Girls on your team is a distraction - A TEMPTATION! Except for Jacky, for obvious reasons.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 5977 Days
Posted by kenshin2418
Trick that. No girls for me in that game, EVER!

After my Sis use to hand me my ass with Sarah, and Dural use to hand me my ass when I was a noob, and more recently she handing me my ass with Vanessa in 4. Bleh at the females! My team will remain a sausage fest! :P
Sarah, Vanessa, and Pai all own. I'll kick your ass with Jacky too, though! ;) No love for Goh? He's such a badass.
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 5952 Days
DCharlie took a bunch of pics from his Japanese PS3 version, :(
Looks awesome, can't wait till I can finally play it on my HDTV...and the wait begins..


http://www.retroscart.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=3...





My god the High Grade Stick is a beast. If you're ever losing, just knock your opponent out with that. They won't be getting up anytime soon :P

I hope they release a HGS for the 360 version too
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The Dark Knight

SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 6000 Days


A W E S O M E ! ! !
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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 5952 Days
HAHA I knew someone would post that pic, eventually. I didn't want to be the one who did. For shame Simon :P

Dural FTW!
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The Dark Knight

SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 6000 Days
I'm so not waiting around for this to hit the 360, I'm totally going to break down and pay through the fucking nose for a PS3 in march.

VF how you play with my heart!
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 5822 Days
I'm going to voice my opinion, and based on my gaming taste, one of you VF masters can decide whether this game is for me.

I loved Tekken up until number 5. The cheap ass Jinpachi boss used his otherworldly techniques to teleport, and turn the entire stage into lava. Not fun when its not an equal playing ground. Same for DOA4. Alpha killed me 60 times in one campaign. I counted.

I don't mind combos or practice, but when all that fails against cheap AI, whats there to hope for? Point of the story: I hate cheap bosses. And cheap AI. Will I enjoy VF5? I've only played the one on PS2 and arcade. Should I ignore this one, or should I buy it?
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Optimus concerning Cloning Clyde: "Looking at this game for some odd reason just assures me how incredible Halo 3 is going to look when its finished :)." =P

SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 6000 Days
You'll get a different answer from Grift, but personally I think all fighting games are rubbish when you play solo. If you want incentive to complete them in the way of story, VF is useless aswell.

However, if you have friends you can duke it out with and just want the solo play to be a substitute for practice, then VF is the best. I base my answer on VF4, but 5 seems set up similarly. The AI is really, really good and actually useful for learning tactics, and the quest mode is built sort of like a carreer mode and is very open ended.

However, if you want a decisive answer from Simon; No human opponents - don't bother.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 5822 Days
That's what I was thinking Simon. My friends hate fighting games, and since this one has no online, its probably a no bother.
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Optimus concerning Cloning Clyde: "Looking at this game for some odd reason just assures me how incredible Halo 3 is going to look when its finished :)." =P

kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
Since 5952 Days
Yeah, VF5 will have excellent AI, but if you're into playing with friends and your friends hate fighting games, then yea probably pass on this one. It can be kind of frustrating your first run through, and for some that may not care for fighting games, they may just put it down all together and not even bother anymore.

The solo mode though is still pretty enjoyable(Best out there IMO) Still maybe give it a rent though, you may end up getting hooked. ;)
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 5977 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
I don't mind combos or practice, but when all that fails against cheap AI, whats there to hope for? Point of the story: I hate cheap bosses. And cheap AI. Will I enjoy VF5? I've only played the one on PS2 and arcade. Should I ignore this one, or should I buy it?
This game has a different take on character AI than other fighting games, and it's the least cheap AI you'll find. You'll still have your standard arcade mode, which has a set AI across all characters, but the Quest Mode is where the real fun is in single player.

Quest mode (or Kumite or whatever) puts you up against AI characters that are modeled after real arcade players, and the results are pretty amazing. You'll encounter every character in the game multiple times, as played by multiple AI players. For example, not every Sarah or Wolf that you run into are actually the same--they'll have different styles and different skill levels--likewise, you'll have a handful of AI characters in the game that use multiple characters quite well, you might notice that the same "player" you were fighting before is now using Jacky instead of Vanessa, or whatever.

It's more like a virtual arcade model. As you win fights and your rank increases, fights get harder and harder but they never seem particularly cheap. Insentive for playing solo is that it's actually quite challenging to get to the rank of Champion and the AI will probably have a better handle on the game than most of your human buddies ever will.

In order to reach champion a working knowledge of the gameplay system and most of its characters will be reached, and that's the beautiful part. Not only is are the training options fantastic, but the challenge forces that much from you, and when you're done, you've accomplished something. You know Virtua Fighter.

That all said, Virtua Fighter 4/Evolution did the same thing..so if you didn't find Kumite/Quest mode interesting, this will probably fail you too. I think if you give it a proper chance though, you may be suprised. It's not worth missing out on this game because no one will challenge you in real life--I had the same issue with VF4 and it's still one of my favorite PS2 games.

That said, having a friend around who knows the game, or trying to teach the game to friends, has always been a personal goal of mine. Obviously kicking a human opponents ass is more satisfying, but this is as good as single player gets in this genre.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 5822 Days
I'll check it out then. I probably won't buy it though. It'd help a lot if there were a demo. I might end up waiting for the 360 version. Achievements ftw!
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Optimus concerning Cloning Clyde: "Looking at this game for some odd reason just assures me how incredible Halo 3 is going to look when its finished :)." =P

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