Batman: The Dark Knight Returns

Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7111 Days





Let's get how awesome this two part movie series fucking is out of the way. Okay, so when it originally came out in 1997 I wasn't old enough to appreciate who Frank Miller was, let alone get my parents to buy me the book even if I'd known it existed.

Fast forward through the last decade and I still never got around to it despite it being touted as one of the best Batman graphic novels of all time. And from devotees this animated series is as good if not better.

I loved it. In fact, I loved it more than all of Chris Nolan's films combined.

I was hooked at Part 1 -- a grizzled and absolutely exhausted Bruce Wayne becomes Batman once again despite a federal order to disappear to destroy a militarized Mutant horde of street thugs. Peter Weller is perfect for the battle worn Bat and has some incredible lines delivered flawlessly. "And I'm not done yet. You're never finished with me" is a chilling line and sentiment for a Batman that's gotta be pushing 60 and taking on foes that he'd struggle with in his hayday.

I don't wanna give too much away, but in Part 2 as you can see Batman and Superman go head to head in a thrilling fisticuffs brawl. I never would have thought it'd been as fairmatched as it was even with Batman in an Iron Man suit and Superman -- well I don't want to spoil what precedes the fight.

Go watch it. Now. Right now.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7131 Days
That is one piece of ugly Batman design.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7111 Days
You're an ugly piece of Batman design! You're like - uh -- the worst Batman I've ever seen! You don't even have pointed ears!

Seriously, his design is perfect. He's an older, bulkier Batman who seems to have put on 10lbs of muscle for every year of retirement.

I'll take this Batman driving a tank and grabbing thugs through concrete walls any day.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7131 Days
LOL armor looks like something from a medieval knights plate armor, its ugly man and nothing "Batman" about it, dont hate.

I prefer the The Dark Knight style the best, light armor look.
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Tinks
Tinks
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Posted by Sath
LOL armor looks like something from a medieval knights plate armor, its ugly man and nothing "Batman" about it, dont hate.

I prefer the The Dark Knight style the best, light armor look.
Go read the Miller books and you'll understand. His armor is the same in that, and is the way it is in order to fight Superman.
What he looks like out of the armor:


This IS the best Batman book I've ever read personally. The art is amazing too. The fact DC allowed this to be made is pretty crazy since it's so violent.
Then again I haven't read The Killing Joke, which is supposed to be tops. Or Long Halloween.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7265 Days
Batman fail. He'd look better with a beard and cargo pants.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7131 Days
Posted by Tinks
Go read the Miller books and you'll understand. His armor is the same in that, and is the way it is in order to fight Superman.
What he looks like out of the armor:


This IS the best Batman book I've ever read personally. The art is amazing too. The fact DC allowed this to be made is pretty crazy since it's so violent.
Then again I haven't read The Killing Joke, which is supposed to be tops. Or Long Halloween.
Still, I prefer the TKD design more.
Posted by GriftGFX
Batman fail. He'd look better with a beard and cargo pants.
Pathetic how you still hold on to old stuff like that.
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Tinks
Tinks
Since 7194 Days
You're like the young kid who likes all the new shit over the old stuff I prefer. Not that that's a bad thing
You prefer a cinematic slaughterfest over a well constructed intelligent game, or what you've seen in movies that are a mere shadow to it's comic book predecessors.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7131 Days
Posted by Tinks
You're like the young kid who likes all the new shit over the old stuff I prefer.
Granted you might not be young, but that's how it seems
Not really, I been watching Batman with Adam West when i was a kid and pretty much seen various Batman arts on google image, watched the awesome animated Batman cartoons early in the mornings...etc. Its not about "follow whats new" since i have never been a sheep like the rest. I just prefer the new design.

I prefer the light and slim looking armor thats all, if you have another design you like then good for you, doesnt give you the right to start calling out on people for it.
http://aftimes.com/wp-content/uploads/Hot-Toys-The...

But then again i have never liked tights or heavy armored designs ever.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7265 Days
Posted by Sath
Pathetic how you still hold on to old stuff like that.
You've grown out of beards and cargo pants?
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7131 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
You've grown out of beards and cargo pants?
"ok"
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7111 Days
Posted by Sath
I prefer the light and slim looking armor thats all, if you have another design you like then good for you, doesnt give you the right to start calling out on people for it.
No Sath, but you've never been able to look past cosmetic details. If it doesn't look exactly to what "you" like, it's terrible. Kids do that. Mature adults typically judge stuff as a whole before writing it off.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7265 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
No Sath, but you've never been able to look past cosmetic details.
Which is exactly why I hold on to that "old stuff." It aint old. It's all the same silly shit.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7131 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
No Sath, but you've never been able to look past cosmetic details. If it doesn't look exactly to what "you" like, it's terrible. Kids do that. Mature adults typically judge stuff as a whole before writing it off.
Get real, i dont like this design, you having a issue with my opinion is your problem not mine. And i have no idea what you mean "as whole", its not like its Iron Man with armor abilities...is it?
Posted by GriftGFX
Which is exactly why I hold on to that "old stuff." It aint old. It's all the same silly shit.
Why "you" hold on to old stuff? so i mentioned character customization that i misunderstood it since COD4 and you bring that up since i havent since COD4, thats utterly pathetic.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7111 Days
You don't even get it. Not liking the design is one thing. I don't care if you don't like the design. But to have a character design that you don't understand keep you from enjoying the best Batman arc is inane if you're really a fan and don't just like "cool suits".
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7265 Days
Posted by Sath
Why "you" hold on to old stuff? so i mentioned character customization that i misunderstood it since COD4 and you bring that up since i havent since COD4, thats utterly pathetic.
I'm with Phaethon. You clearly don't get it.

Was that about Call of Duty 4? I'm pretty sure it was actually about every game ever.
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 7131 Days
Thats all i said, I dont like this Batman design, I didnt mention anything else, unless you thought i mean the artstyle as well?
Posted by GriftGFX
Was that about Call of Duty 4? I'm pretty sure it was actually about every game ever.
Dont act dumb, it was clearly COD4 when they revealed "create a class" and when they mention customizing i thought they also meant appearence on character as well thats all.
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
Since 7265 Days
Batman has bad hit detection.
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IRAIPT0IR
IRAIPT0IR
Since 5973 Days
Posted by GriftGFX
Batman has bad hit detection.
No he doesn't.
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Tinks
Tinks
Since 7194 Days
Anywho, the armor makes sense because you'd have to tank it up to fight Superman. The entire style of the book is exceptionally dark and gritty. It makes sense for Batman to look like that to fight Supes, is all I'm sayin.
Nolan's Batman would have to do the same thing if he were to fight Superman otherwise he'd get shamed.
I definitely recommend picking the book up Sath. It's an awesome read.
Also it's some of the best visuals to ever grace a Batman book. It's the precursor to the Sin City art.

Back on topic though. I've only seen snippets of TDKR #1. I need to catch up and get to this sequel too. I'm really really curious to see how they handle the Joker.
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7111 Days
Michael Emerson plays the Joker and I thought he did a bang up job. Really creepy. Their final showdown was fantastic.

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Tinks
Tinks
Since 7194 Days
It's also worth noting that Nolan got inspiration from these comics for his films

Doesn't look quite as creepy as the comic, but it is animated after all
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
Phaethon360
Since 7111 Days
That's him still pretending to be a human being.

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Ronsauce
Ronsauce
Since 7250 Days
Posted by Phaethon360
I loved it. In fact, I loved it more than all of Chris Nolan's films combined.
I'm right with you there. Great stuff!

And even though he's all done up in his Superman-busting armour, he still moves infinitely better than Bale in his outfit.
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