SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 6797 Days
Andore; your english is fine, and I do partially share your problem with not being able to explain it in as much detail as I actually could due to the troubles translating everything from my native swedish. You got all of my points though, and I believe I got yours, so we're prolly fine. :)

"Maybe you're right saying Hd is a good way to improve graphics until hardware gets MUCH faster."

Precisely. And even then I suppose people will get a kick out of the clarity of HD, but you're completely right; games could look better on standard tellies with enough power to process the image the way rendering a CG movie does. I imagine that's well into the future though, and prolly best off that way as right now they should probably still use the extra power for imaginative gameplay and just creating worlds that we love.

I really think this discussion contributed to people's understanding of HD gaming and what it actually brings in this era of games. Good on us. :)
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An Elegant Tapestry of Aphorisms - The musings of a brilliant self proclaimed gaming philosopher.
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andore
andore
Since 6719 Days
Hehe i agree on the importance of game design completely, but as a long time gamer (i'm 30) i'm strongly attracted by the technological evolution :D

Maybe i'm wrong, but i think younger videogame users who didnt spent their days on the first arcade cabinets and their C64 conversions, cant fully appreciate the magic of modern games visuals.
But i'm going off topic...
Anyway, thanks for the nice discussion :)
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
Since 6797 Days
You're on a different topic that I'd very much like to discuss. I'm back to work in a sec though so it'll have to wait. We can open a new thread then.
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An Elegant Tapestry of Aphorisms - The musings of a brilliant self proclaimed gaming philosopher.
http://aetoa.blogspot.com

sixspeed
Since 6674 Days
Someone made a good point about HD making a difference on larger screens. I run my 360 on a Sim2 Domino 20 front projection system, projecting onto a 92" screen.

I can tell the difference between all 3 HD modes, and can definately tell you that 1080i looks a lot better than SDTV mode!! I can even tell the difference between 720p and 1080i, and now I've got the option even 720p mode looks blurry! lol

Obviously it's not, but on such a large screen, there's no option for me now but to run my 360 in the highest resolution. But BOY does it look good!!!
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memolo
memolo
Since 6735 Days
Two things, about HDTV not making a difference, today my brother got his HDTV after a week or so of SDTV playing and he made quite clear that it was so much better, he was even calling some of his friends to come check it out.

On the other hand, PDZ is a mixed bag. The story is not that bad, the final boss is great, but you have to switch between PDZ and Condemned to notice how this game is a current-gen game with higher res textures, good lighting effects (but far away from Condemned) and some incredibly old design like invisible barriers on the jungle level (so, dunno, 5-years old?), very bad pacing, you can get lost easily, only one save point per level, the beginning level is used twice very cheaply. Purchase only for online, but it's worth renting for single player imho.

However I would rent it just for the snow level, it has incredible graphics, but Kameo is so much better.
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XAL
XAL
Since 6767 Days
Carmack never had Jesus status - he was always full of crap.
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Denjinflash
Denjinflash
Since 6748 Days
i don't see how 720p would look worse than 1080i coming from the xbox..it's probably that your tv natively supports 1080i mode.

anyway, yeah kameo is a gem of a game! i used to love these kinds of games but having played them in soo long. after going through the demo countless times i've finally picked up the full game. nice game ;)
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Denjinflash
Denjinflash
Since 6748 Days
wooooo is this game great or what! seriously the best graphics on the 360, and very fun. i hope for more games like this in the future..
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ManThatYouFear
ManThatYouFear
Since 6717 Days
first of all i dont think the guy who made this thread will like the fact you have all hijacked it

but i would add, i got a 36" phillips pixel plus SDTV (rgb only) and a 46" HDTV (compo and HDMI) and i can sit here and look at the diffrence and IF you cant see it THEN YOU ARE BLIND

and 1080i is no where near the quality of 720p, due to 1080i been 30 frames a second and there been no progressive scan on the 1080i and if you know the diffrence of progressive then i dont need to waste my time explaining it, and if you dont i dont need to waste my time explaining it because i got a coffee to drink
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Critx
Critx
Since 6773 Days
Posted by ManThatYouFear
because i got a coffee to drink
What kind of coffee? :)
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